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Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots?
    #8800440 - 08/20/08 12:29 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

OK, so, swim took 4 cuttings of an mj plant off his outdoor plant recently since swim noticed that the outside female (which smells of poop and sour cheese, and was found in a bag of midgrade :smile:) had started to flower. So, Swim went out there with some sharp scissors and made 4 specimens and dropped them immediatly into poland spring water. From there under a brown paper bag, he carried them inside where he then pulled the cuttings out one by one, trimming each one then makeing a 45' angled cut, re dipping the stem in again and dipping then into rootone. These were then placed in 4" plastic pots with vermiculite.

A humidity tent was constructed out of a plastic translucent bin, duct tape and saran wrap that had holes put in it. Water is sprayed into it daily and sometimes up to 3 times a day. Also, there are 2 2' flourcent tupe lights on top of the bin on 24/7 for them so they dont try to keep flowering.

Its been about a week and a few days and they've barely started to wilt. The bottom most leaves have started to get some yellow up the middle of the leaves and are slightly starting to droop.

How do I know when its rooted exactly so I can put them under proper light?

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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: hightimesreader]
    #8800482 - 08/20/08 12:39 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

wow solid technique sir.  you can tell if its rooted by gently getting a grip on the leaves and pulling ever so lightly.  if you feel resistance stop and you know it has rooted.  you may have to grab the stem to pull on it but if you do, do so very gently.  remember leaves repair easily, if you damage the stem your fucked.


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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: hightimesreader]
    #8801383 - 08/20/08 05:05 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

just wait for roots to show out of the bottom of the pots...
try using a net pot next time if that is not what you are using now, its really easy to tell when they are rooted then without the need to disturb the cuttings...


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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #8802600 - 08/20/08 09:51 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

What swim realllly wanted was some 1x1" rock wool cubes, BUT swim didnt have enough time to wait around for the opperutnity... Swim tugged on all 4 and 2 seemed a little more hunkered down and 2 felt very different and slid right out of the medium easily. So, think that 2 are rooted or that swim just happened to pack the verm. down harder on those 2?

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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: hightimesreader]
    #8802620 - 08/20/08 09:57 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

quit tuggin ur clones.

youre technique is good.

ur box sounds good.

lighting sounds good.

just give them time and youll see new growht.

its not necessary to mist daily. just a good misting when they first go in the box, and then again if it dries out.

a lot of the leaves will wilt and rot, dont panic this is good, just watch for new growth to know that you have a root system

did u use straight verm?

i like to make a verm/perlite mix, with a little bit of soil thrown in there


p.s. when u see new growth, start letting them have some nice fresh air


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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: just me]
    #8802687 - 08/20/08 10:19 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Swim appreciates the approval of his setup and will allow these to chill for a little without so much poking and proding. Should swim remove dying leaves or should swim allow to fall off naturally? Also, today, Swim forgot to mention that he gave each cutting a watering treatment of some honey dissolved in water for some simple carbs for it to maybe help live and sustain long enough to get a root system. Swim is anxious for at least 1 to root successfully, since that would be a break through in his technique and this is the only chance he has to preserve the unique smell that is produced from this plant. I wish him luck anyways..

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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: hightimesreader]
    #8802759 - 08/20/08 10:36 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

the honey water wasnt needed, especially if they dont have roots yet.

quit pokin and proding like you said.

tell swim to go take a dip


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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: just me]
    #8802936 - 08/20/08 11:13 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I like to use wilt pruf and rockwool cubes.
  wilt pruf is awesome. no misting needed.
  and with the rockwool I know they are rooted when roots pop out the bottom.

  one experiment I have done was just to take a branch and just snap it off the plant.... dip end in water quick to prevent embolism....
  cut leaves with scissors so they are tiny....
  spray with wilt pruf top and bottom...
  and just left in water and changed water daily till it rooted.  It worked great. I wasnt sure you could just snap a branch off and root it that way but yep it worked. MJ is very very resilient.
  I have rooted many many clones in water too but rockwool is my fav. less messing around


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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: cpw1971]
    #8803141 - 08/20/08 11:54 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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MJ is very very resilient.
 




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cept when roots hit open air...fuck they hate that.

any time transplanting, try to get the entire mass of soil and root together out of the pot


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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: hightimesreader]
    #8806360 - 08/21/08 05:32 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

get an aeroponic propagator, they are the shit :yesnod:

i never lost a single clone when i had one...


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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #8806838 - 08/21/08 07:25 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

i never lost one with a rubermaid and ponypacks:shrug:

but then again, im just awesome:yesnod:


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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: just me]
    #8809384 - 08/22/08 04:43 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

ahh but aeroponics is the way to go (if you want to invest in the equipment)



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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #8809395 - 08/22/08 04:54 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

look at those british hands :lol:

my american hands(greek lineage) are stubby and caloused...

kinda like my cactus cuttings.

peasants hands.


and i love em.

anyway, nice lookin clone.





this mama jama had a 2' root ball when i went to transplant due to area complications


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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: just me]
    #8809469 - 08/22/08 05:39 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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look at those british hands



dirty british gardeners hands.


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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #8809621 - 08/22/08 07:40 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Next time when you clone prune the leaves off in advance and allow for the cuts to "harden off".  Most moisture is lost through the leaves so if you clip them off in advance of the transplant it will maintain moisture better.(Don't clip them all off)  Also the tug method is described in Introductory Horticulture as the preferred method to see if rooting has taken place.  If you just let it sit in an environment with such high RH to see if it wilts from moisture loss you may wait a long time to discover it hasn't rooted.  When I say tug though, I mean super light.  If it slips out easily it hasn't rooted like you said it did.  Good luck with future attempts, be sure to keep us informed of how its going.


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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: hightimesreader]
    #8837876 - 08/27/08 09:11 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

So, it appears that 2 of the clones SWIM has taken will make it, one is iffy and on the wiltier side and amazing of all things, the branch SWIM stuck in for fun, in the 5 gallon pale that his pink haird, stanky little ho of a plant, has rooted, becoming a 4 inch barely rooted clone. SO, SWIM knows for a fact that he will most definitly have at least one clone. HOORAY! SWIM calls this a success in his book and will continue to clone in close to the same way as last time. Maybe SWIM will post a pic or two of the mother outdoors so you can see what the clones may turn to!

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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: hightimesreader]
    #8839971 - 08/28/08 04:07 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

you can cut the SWIM crap, we all know it's you :tongue:

glad SWYM has at least one clone :tongue2:


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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #8840985 - 08/28/08 12:42 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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get an aeroponic propagator, they are the shit :yesnod:

i never lost a single clone when i had one...




Its true I got a aero garden.

like 6 days ago I found a plant that was going female at a buddies. I took a knife and cut a small crappy branch off the bottom that was doing nothing.

I went home and I cut that branch into 5 pieces with a leaf nod in each piece with some secateurs (clipers). I then just drooped it into the holes with 1/4 strength nutes and  forgot about them for 4 days.

Now today they have pretty good size lumps all down like  2 inches of the stem and a pair of growing tips are coming out the leaf nods.

I might take some pics later.


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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: MYSTIQUE]
    #8841127 - 08/28/08 01:10 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I wanna see pics


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Re: Third attempt at cloning.. first signs of roots? [Re: MYSTIQUE]
    #8841256 - 08/28/08 01:41 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

uarewotueat said:
get an aeroponic propagator, they are the shit :yesnod:

i never lost a single clone when i had one...




Its true I got a aero garden.

like 6 days ago I found a plant that was going female at a buddies. I took a knife and cut a small crappy branch off the bottom that was doing nothing.

I went home and I cut that branch into 5 pieces with a leaf nod in each piece with some secateurs (clipers). I then just drooped it into the holes with 1/4 strength nutes and  forgot about them for 4 days.

Now today they have pretty good size lumps all down like  2 inches of the stem and a pair of growing tips are coming out the leaf nods.

I might take some pics later.




i loved my aeroponic propagator, it was one bad ass piece of equipment... alas it is no more... :nonono:

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