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Booze Kills, Pot Doesn't
    #8798598 - 08/19/08 11:41 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

August 19, 2008 - AlterNet

Booze Kills, Pot Doesn't
The alcohol poisoning death rate in the U.S. is shockingly high, consistently between 300 and 400 a year. It's zero for pot.

On August 19, the Associated Press reported on a group of college presidents proposing reconsideration of the legal drinking age. I'll refrain from wading into the emotional debate about what the legal age for alcohol should be, but a graph that accompanied the story in some outlets raises larger questions about our national policies towards drugs and alcohol.

Two things are striking:

1) The number of alcohol poisoning deaths in the U.S. is shockingly high, consistently between 300 and 400 each year. The number of annual deaths from marijuana poisoning remains -- as always -- zero.

2) The number of alcohol poisoning deaths spiked just as the U.S. government started going all-out to demonize marijuana, deploying hundreds of millions of dollars worth of anti-marijuana ads on TV, radio, and in print.

One can't help but wonder if this is really just coincidence. The recent low point came in 2000, with 327 alcohol poisoning deaths overall, and 16 among college-age Americans. In 2001, the Bush administration came into office, with anti-marijuana zealot John Walters taking over as drug czar late in the year. Shortly thereafter, Walters began his anti-marijuana crusade.

The airwaves were soon filled with commercials telling teens and their parents that lighting up a joint could lead to shooting your friends, getting pregnant, running over little girls on bicycles, or supporting terrorists. Walters made wild statements, claiming that marijuana potency had increased up to 20-fold (a claim he's since backed off from, but never directly retracted). The message was clear: Forget everything you think you know about marijuana being relatively harmless. This stuff is dangerous, addictive, and scary.

When sensible individuals noted that alcohol is in fact far more dangerous health-wise than marijuana, Walters told the Albuquerque Journal that the idea was "frightening." And the anti-marijuana crusaded sped onward, with new waves of ads directed at both young people and their parents.

According to government surveys, marijuana use did decline modestly (though the decline had actually begun before Bush and Walters took office, a point the administration generally neglects to mention). And in 2002 -- the first full year of Walters' modern "reefer madness" -- alcohol poisoning deaths spiked to 383, a level they've roughly maintained ever since. Booze deaths among college-age young people also ratcheted upward, and in 2005 set a recent record of 35 in one year -- a 250 percent increase in just four years.

And during that time, the government maintained virtual silence about the dangers of binge drinking.

No one wants to encourage kids either to drink or smoke marijuana. But if you keep bombarding young people with propaganda about the dangers of marijuana while saying nothing about the possibility that booze can literally kill you -- precisely what our government has done -- well, that just might be "sending a message to young people," as the federal bureaucrats say. And that message could kill.

It's not unreasonable to suspect that it already has.


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Re: Booze Kills, Pot Doesn't [Re: veggie]
    #8798646 - 08/19/08 11:53 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

ya the more money we spend on anti weed ads the more die from alcohol

make a graphhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh


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Re: Booze Kills, Pot Doesn't [Re: Coaster]
    #8798753 - 08/20/08 12:17 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

The number of deaths from marijuana consumption is in direct coorelation with the number of pigs that can fly.

See pic below to determine if pigs can fly.



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Re: Booze Kills, Pot Doesn't [Re: veggie]
    #8798942 - 08/20/08 12:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

no surprise here.:monkeydance:


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Re: Booze Kills, Pot Doesn't [Re: white_noise]
    #8799378 - 08/20/08 03:59 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Walters is an idiotic fucking maniac. I wish he'd just fuck with the wrong drug cartel and get his evil, worthless ass assassinated.


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Re: Booze Kills, Pot Doesn't [Re: veggie]
    #8799398 - 08/20/08 04:08 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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veggie said:
When sensible individuals noted that alcohol is in fact far more dangerous health-wise than marijuana, Walters told the Albuquerque Journal that the idea was "frightening."




:nonono:

That just makes me sick


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Re: Booze Kills, Pot Doesn't [Re: Entropymancer]
    #8799517 - 08/20/08 05:22 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Reading this just made me mad. Fuck Walters and all the people that have tried to teach that marijuana is a bad thing.


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Re: Booze Kills, Pot Doesn't [Re: veggie]
    #8799578 - 08/20/08 05:56 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

> The alcohol poisoning death rate in the U.S. is shockingly high, consistently between 300 and 400 a year. It's zero for pot.

See, the war on drugs is winning; no pot deaths.  :rolleyes:


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Re: Booze Kills, Pot Doesn't [Re: Seuss]
    #8799631 - 08/20/08 06:27 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Booze kills cells, LSD expands them.....good times.


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Re: Booze Kills, Pot Doesn't [Re: Coaster]
    #8799709 - 08/20/08 07:23 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Quote:

Coaster said:
ya the more money we spend on anti weed ads the more die from alcohol

make a graphhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh




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Re: Booze Kills, Pot Doesn't [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8799804 - 08/20/08 08:43 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

Maybe if more of this news gets on TV we can see some change.


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Re: Booze Kills, Pot Doesn't [Re: libertyshroom]
    #8799915 - 08/20/08 09:38 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

i wonder what that ignorant mothafucka walters would say if someone asked him why alcohal is legal when hundreds of thousands of people die each year due to alcohal related crashes/poisoning/and shootings,
and why weed is illegal when not a single person in the history of its use has died due to weed-only accidents/overdose/or shootings(excluding gang violence)
oh and no one has shot their friend while high only drunk, and iv seen it


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Re: Booze Kills, Pot Doesn't [Re: stewy1412]
    #8800064 - 08/20/08 10:40 AM (10 years, 1 month ago)

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oh and no one has shot their friend while high only drunk, and iv seen it




Yeah it's not like people are going home baked and beating their wives and kids.
That's what alcohol's for.


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Re: Booze Kills, Pot Doesn't [Re: Irieforester]
    #8801147 - 08/20/08 03:59 PM (10 years, 1 month ago)

population control....government allows the worst and most deadly substances (Tobacco & Alcohol) so that it can kill us all off....i must admit I love alcohol but I don't love how it shrinks my prefrontal cortex and causes cognitive brain damage from excessive use....oh and it also rots my liver alive


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