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Cacti ID, and worthyness
    #8792377 - 08/18/08 07:17 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

i was at the hardware/nursery today, and while they were fillin up the propane i went to have a look in the succulents section.

these BIG ones ive been wanting to know what they are for some time, but theres were lots of others that peaked my interest too.

if you can ID some for me, it would be much apreciated, money is tight, so i cant just go fillin up the greenhouse with cacti, but if any of them are must haves, please let me know!

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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: just me]
    #8792438 - 08/18/08 07:35 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

pic #1 stenocereus on the left, dont know about the right.
pic #2 looks like a monstrose myrtillocactus or perhaps cereus.
pic #3 looks like a pachycereus or carnegia gigantea on the left.
pic #4 & pic #9 stetsonia coryne.

not sure about the rest, or too lazy to think about it would be more precise :tongue2:


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #8793451 - 08/18/08 11:08 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

1L Pachycereus marginatus (Steno)
1R Strenocereus hystrix
2 Cereus monst. of some sortses
3 :shrug:
4 Pilocereus azureus
5 Lotsov cactuses
6 :shrug:
7 Succulent
8 :shrug:
9 Pilocereus azureus var. againsis
10 TopL looks like a Pilocereus of sorts others :shrug:
11 :shrug:


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: scruffymafia]
    #8793549 - 08/18/08 11:30 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

:hug:

i love ethno garden :lol:

i really like the monstrose, just cuz i dont have any.

any must haves in there, in your "ethno" opinions?


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: just me]
    #8793580 - 08/18/08 11:37 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

u guys kinda conflict a bit...:shrug:

anyone wanna guess on #7 and #11

if i get any by MY CHOICE itll be those two cuz theyre bitchin :lol:


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: just me]
    #8793650 - 08/18/08 11:56 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I would take the Stenocereus hystrix fo' sure. If it is one of course, im pretty sure.

Apparently it has very very similar alkaloids to lophs.


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: scruffymafia]
    #8793661 - 08/18/08 11:57 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

WHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAaa

so thats like a 3ft. peyote :lol:

its 140 bones...a bit pricey for me now...


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: just me]
    #8793704 - 08/19/08 12:15 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Well in some ways, i suggest you study it more. Find out what percentages and if it has dodgy alkaloids etc. I would touch it with a 10ft pole because from what i know, it hasnt been used by locals. But its still :awesome:


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: scruffymafia]
    #8793961 - 08/19/08 02:18 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

yeah scruffy, i couldnt cut that beast up.

i just would like having it knowing its a healer of sorts


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: just me]
    #8795072 - 08/19/08 10:33 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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just me said:
u guys kinda conflict a bit...:shrug:




of course, that is what opinion and debate are for :tongue2:

non of these cacti are labelled? the seller doesn't know what they are?


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #8796166 - 08/19/08 01:51 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

correct and correct.

u know how cacti labeling goes.

really tho, #7 and #11 are weighing heavy on my heart:lol:

i should get them

what would u pay for the monstrose, or the BIG hystrix?


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: just me]
    #8796637 - 08/19/08 03:07 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

i wouldn't pay alot for either... certainly not $140 for the hystrix, even if that is what it is, it is still a rip off...

anyway buy them all :evil:

ps. i did get stetsonia coryne and pilocereus azureus mixed up in my first post, scruffy is right about #4 & #9 :yesnod:


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: Dr. uarewotueat]
    #8797360 - 08/19/08 05:12 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

ok.

thanks again guys...

the lady says that cactus has been there over 10 years!!!

i think the price goes up on it every year.


they r prolly willing to barter out here, i mean its all local buying and selling around here.

would like $120 for both be reasonable, or is that still puttin too much $ in their pockets...

i got an idea, you buy them all, and ill babysit them :lol:


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: just me]
    #8799069 - 08/19/08 11:42 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Usually nursery owners are willing to let the price drop alot with specimens that are hard to sell if you are really interested. Its like auto-pilot haggling lol. When i bought my ugly as sin pedro (i think it may be a juul's) she was like "Big cacti cost $60, ohh make it $50.. Umm actually $30. Yeah $30, that sound good to you? :lol:

"Yeah, thats alright by me :shrug:"

Anyways you already have a massif Steno - i would spend that money on other interesting species.

You could spin some good money on the net selling the seeds if you bred tho, but i heard they have very diverse alkaloid concentrations.


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: scruffymafia]
    #8799524 - 08/20/08 03:28 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

hahaha:lol:

maybe down the road with the help of all u clowns i can start breeding, but right now im just beefin up the collection.

the massif steno ur talkin about, r u refering the one i took a massive cut off of today?

its at least 12"L and more than a soda can thick...

i dont know what compelled me to cut it, but i had a knife in my hand and i walked out my door and straight to the cactus like i was sleepwalking and murdered the thing...

which in turn gives it new life...:)


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: just me]
    #8799550 - 08/20/08 03:42 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Lol yeah, that sounds just like something Kip Kinkel would say..

I will reply to your other question here to help try avoid brainiacs thread becoming a tea-party.

It wont survive here because, we get frosts here. Not bad, minimum temp of -1'c (about 30'f). Stenos are from Puerto Rico, its alot warmer there.


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: scruffymafia]
    #8799554 - 08/20/08 03:44 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

gotcha gotcha.

and you dont take ur cacti in for the winter?

royer: were you sayin i CAN openly talk about sending cuttings in here, or thats a no no...


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: just me]
    #8799563 - 08/20/08 03:50 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

No i dont see the point, they grow outside in the wild all year round dont they? :shrug:

The cacti nursery i got to has a few huge pedros growing in the open and the look WAY healthier than any i have seen on here.

I took them in for a huge storm because they are in unstable pots.

I think royer means no, maybe time to read the rules?


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: scruffymafia]
    #8799570 - 08/20/08 03:53 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

i cant read...

pedros are a little more cold tolerant then the stenos then?


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Re: Cacti ID, and worthyness [Re: just me]
    #8799587 - 08/20/08 04:04 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

if in doubt leave it out, thin ice man, thin ice :tongue2:

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