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Bush's Speech
    #879308 - 09/12/02 01:49 AM (19 years, 20 days ago)

I missed it. :frown:

Everyone on CNN is saying it was g-r-r-r-r-eat!

I heard a little bit of this radio talk show where one guy called in and said that bombing Iraq would be a huge mistake and then people called up and said that that guy was crazy because Iraq finances terrorism and supplies terrorists with weapons of mass destruction.

Rut Roh George.


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #879327 - 09/12/02 02:03 AM (19 years, 20 days ago)

I also heard that the Iraqui representatives just sat there smirking and chewing gum as Bush chastized them.

They're baiting us.


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Post deleted by Moe Howard [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #879359 - 09/12/02 02:21 AM (19 years, 20 days ago)



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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Macey Howard]
    #879404 - 09/12/02 02:48 AM (19 years, 20 days ago)

Bushes speack was 20 minutes of him stretching out the same point over and over. He must have said the same thing five times in five diferent ways.

I dont buy for a second that his speach was to sway the international community or the UN.. It was to bolster the dying support of Americans for this war. The UN and individual countries have already made their decision or are makeing it based on facts that they know, not the words of the US president.

Plus Bush isnt that great of a speach giver, he lacks compassion in his voice and it was VERRY obvious that the speach was fed to him through an ear pice.


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #879451 - 09/12/02 03:11 AM (19 years, 20 days ago)

I don't know about this attacking Iraq business. I'm not sure if they'll be stupid enough to actually go through with it. The rest of the western world is against it, even Blair, who seemed to be Bush's lackey for a while is backpeddling. If Bush actually does go ahead and attack he's going to be losing the respect of A LOT of people.


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Phluck]
    #879455 - 09/12/02 03:14 AM (19 years, 20 days ago)

Bush is respected?


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Phluck]
    #879470 - 09/12/02 03:18 AM (19 years, 20 days ago)

Blair's got his tongue about as far up Dubya's ass as it will stretch. The only thing stopping the corporate lackey is the vast majority of Britons are totally against the war.


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Xlea321]
    #879759 - 09/12/02 05:58 AM (19 years, 20 days ago)

Think about this... can Bush change his mind? Does he have the option not to attack?


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: foghorn]
    #879780 - 09/12/02 06:08 AM (19 years, 20 days ago)

Good question.

Wouldn't be very manly of him to punk out now.


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Post deleted by MOE THE MAD SCIENTIST [Re: foghorn]
    #879797 - 09/12/02 06:15 AM (19 years, 20 days ago)



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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: vatoloco]
    #879820 - 09/12/02 06:27 AM (19 years, 20 days ago)

That oughta make for good tv.


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: vatoloco]
    #879847 - 09/12/02 06:50 AM (19 years, 20 days ago)

Iraq says they will not fall easily.... could have a number of meanings :confused:


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #879869 - 09/12/02 07:00 AM (19 years, 20 days ago)

Bush is respected?

Sadly, yes. His approval rating is 69%.


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: WhiskeyClone]
    #880695 - 09/12/02 03:50 PM (19 years, 20 days ago)

I saw the speech on CSPAN. He made some interesting points.

1. Iraq has invaded its neighbors and launched ballistic missiles against them in the past, including attacks against Iran, Saudi Arabia, and Kuwait.

2. The UN Security Council has repeatedly demanded that Iraq follow the terms of surrender from the Gulf War to no avail.

3. Iraq has dangerous amounts of biological and chemical weapons.

These are three pretty scary truths in combination with one another.

Does the UN Security Council feel that Iraq is a threat?

It would seem so. Why else would they continue to humiliate themselves by demanding that they follow the terms to the Gulf War surrender? Houssain obviously has a thirst for at least expanding his borders. He has shown this by invading Iran and Kuwait.

Bush also gave Iraq and the UN the option to play by the rules set forth in '91.



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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #880791 - 09/12/02 04:52 PM (19 years, 20 days ago)

1. Iraq has invaded its neighbors and launched ballistic missiles against them in the past

So has Germany and Japan. Guess we should attack them too.


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Swami]
    #880844 - 09/12/02 05:12 PM (19 years, 20 days ago)

If Hitler were still in charge, I'm sure we would...


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #880901 - 09/12/02 05:45 PM (19 years, 20 days ago)

Methinks you need to read up a little on history. Here's a few facts:

1. The US did not enter the European front until very late in the war.

2. Hitler had many supporters in the US.

3. Jewish refugees were turned away.

So much for our altruistic vision of ourselves.


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #880910 - 09/12/02 05:51 PM (19 years, 20 days ago)

I literial slept throw most off it... (I have had a bad cold) I remeber having cnn on all day...

I remeber hearing them name every single person that died in the towers (over 3000) ... then I kinda woke up much later when bush was on.. In fact I remeber it well 'cuz I drifted back into a nightmare.... no wait, that was when my WIFE WALKED IN.. :smirk:

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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Swami]
    #881187 - 09/13/02 01:01 AM (19 years, 19 days ago)

1. Irrelevant
2. Irrelevant
3. Irrelevant (and only partially true if at all)


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Swami]
    #881294 - 09/13/02 02:30 AM (19 years, 19 days ago)

one cannot deny that US forces significantly aided in the fighting of the German army in WW2.

if you want to say "Hitler had many supporters in the US", you could also say "bin Laden has many supporters in the US", or "Stalin had many supporters in the US". it's a very subjective statement. and from all the history I've read, the majority of the US was pretty big into the war effort.

yes, sadly, some jewish refugees were turned away. fucked up shit. we also stuck the japanese in internment camps. fucked up shit. but I don't understand at all what that has to do with this argument.
you might as well be talking about slavery or david koresh or the price of bananas these days. they're all fucked up shit if you ask me.


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: GabbaDj]
    #881348 - 09/13/02 02:56 AM (19 years, 19 days ago)

>Bushes speack was 20 minutes of him stretching out the same point over and over. He must have said the same thing five times in five diferent ways. -I call that tactic, Brainwashing.

I saw the speech.
I was forced too, they interupted Springer.
It was as plastic as all WH Speeches are in the last 2 years. not too interesting.
And yes, the Iraqui's were leaning back, smirking, and not clapping when it was 'time' - I found that rather amusing.
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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Anonymous]
    #881579 - 09/13/02 09:52 AM (19 years, 19 days ago)

Well, acording to the news media it looks like Bush W. is slowly starting to gain support to invade Iraq... Yar.


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Jammer]
    #881790 - 09/13/02 11:34 AM (19 years, 19 days ago)

"Sadly, yes. His approval rating is 69%."

I think this figure has been falsely made up. for this reason:

Michael Moore a political activist, movie director, comedian, and author wrote a book titled "Stupid White Men" which among other things is best known for being anti-bush. This book which publishers wouldn't even publish at first ended up number one on Amazon's best seller list

So if all these people are buying this book, then how could they be pro-bush at the same time, it doesn't make sense.

back to the original topic:

The day 9-11 is being used to boost up our patriotism. I didn't get the opportunity to hear Bush's speech but I saw enough TV to understand what was going on. I saw the twin towers collapsing over and over again and realized that they were trying to get americans to relive that day, To relive our emotions, fear, whatever. But as long as they can keep us stuck on that particular day in history they can continue to keep us at war. They can continue to take away our liberties. So don't let it get to you. Hold on desperately to your reason.


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Anonymous]
    #881876 - 09/13/02 12:33 PM (19 years, 19 days ago)

Every word that Bush said was like a turd falling into my drink.


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: MortMtroN]
    #882484 - 09/13/02 05:36 PM (19 years, 19 days ago)

I have meet Michael Moore in person when he premered his movie about GM closing factorys in Flint Michigan: Roger & Me. In fact, I'm from his home town of Flint as well. (damm that guy must weigh over 300 lbs!)

I am a liberial, however I HATE how rude that guy is... He likes to barge into places totaly uninvited with the cameras rolling and others think that shit is funny.... I dont. In the movie Roger & Me he went to a weathy suburb of Flint (Grand Blanc) to a golf corse... He brought the entire camera crew out on the greens and just started asking totaly strangers what they thought about the GM plant closings in Flint.... I mean, excuse me but thats really not the place for an interview.

I would not mind reading his book... but I'm not paying $$ for it. I might download it however. :grin: 


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Jammer]
    #883093 - 09/13/02 10:49 PM (19 years, 19 days ago)

So I guess you know that flint was rated the worst place to live in the country. My hometown of rockford was number 300.

I think it is cool when he goes to corporate headquarters and tries to talk to the CEO's. The way they always refuse to talk to him is quite amusing.


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: MortMtroN]
    #883102 - 09/13/02 10:55 PM (19 years, 19 days ago)

I was unaware, but not surprised of that. Back when I lived there Flint was like in the bottom 10... So it's a rock bottom now, eh? It was bad enough before I left, everyone that I still know up there says that it's gotten worse too... But, Im not sure that everyone should blame GM for it... I mean why cant more people move to where the jobs are (like I did)?


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Jammer]
    #883789 - 09/15/02 07:13 PM (19 years, 17 days ago)

The rest of the world is posturing to look like they support Bush now because he called them a bunch of pussies.

And from what I can tell, he's right.

I am not sure who makes up the Security Council, but they do take action as representatives of the UN.

So, if they say that Iraq is in violation of their treaty, and they demand that Iraq live up to their end, then isn't that the same as agreeing that the regime is a serious problem?



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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #885114 - 09/16/02 08:24 AM (19 years, 16 days ago)

Nobody??


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Jammer]
    #891530 - 09/18/02 05:50 PM (19 years, 14 days ago)

Grand Blanc is a wealthy suburb?..that's news to me :grin:


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #892821 - 09/19/02 09:05 AM (19 years, 13 days ago)

"Our principles and our security are challenged today by outlaw groups and regimes that accept no law of morality and have no limit to their violent ambitions."
* Conservative commentator Samuel Huntington has pointed out that many people worldwide consider the US to be "the single greatest external threat to their societies" (Foreign Affairs, 1999).
* Under Bush, the US stands in violation of international law for its bombing of Afghanistan and ongoing bombing of Iraq (violating Article 51 of the UN Charter); its treatment of the Guant?namo Bay prisoners (violating the Geneva Convention); and for its "first strike" nuclear weapons doctrine (violating the UN Nuclear Non-Proliferation Treaty).
* Bush has declared his willingness to commit another grave breach of international law by bombing Iraq without authorization from the Security Council.
* The Bush Administration has also undermined the US Constitution by declaring the War Powers Act (requiring Congressional authorization to launch a war) irrelevant.
* As for "violent ambitions," Bush's are indeed limitless. In June 2002, he described his doctrine of "pre-emption:" "the military must be ready to strike at a moment's notice in any dark corner of the world." Who are the targets? "All nations that decide for aggression and terror."
* And the US has the power to back up its threats. Its military budget dwarfs that of all other countries combined; and US troops are stationed in 148 of the world's 188 countries.

"By refusing to comply with his own agreements [Saddam Hussein] bears full guilt for the hunger and misery of innocent Iraqi citizens."
* According to UNICEF and the World Health Organization, US-led sanctions against Iraq have killed over one million people, half of them children under five.
* In 1991, the US bombed the civilian infrastructure of Iraq, including bridges, roads and facilities that protected the water supply of 22 million people.
"...sanctions were maintained after the war to compel the regime's compliance with Security Council Resolutions."
* Every US administration since the Gulf War has stated that sanctions would be maintained even if Iraq cooperates with the UN: "Iraqis will be made to pay the price while Saddam Hussein's in power. Any easing of the sanctions will be considered only when there is a new government" (Robert Gates, National Security Advisor to Bush I).
* The US position actually undermines Security Council resolutions by nullifying any incentive for Iraqi compliance.

"Iraq likely maintains stockpiles of VX, mustard and other chemical agents...the regime is rebuilding and expanding facilities capable of producing chemical weapons."
* The keyword is "likely." Credible analysts such as former chief UN weapons inspector Scott Ritter maintain that the military threat from Iraq is exaggerated. They point out that since the Gulf War, Iraq has been largely disarmed and that it lacks the delivery systems (e.g., long-range missiles and rocket launchers) to turn chemical agents into "weapons of mass destruction."
* Iraq's possible stores of chemical and biological agents are courtesy of the US, which supplied Baghdad with stock for anthrax, botulism, E. coli and other deadly diseases throughout the 1980s.
* If Bush is concerned about chemical and biological weapons, he should stop manufacturing and selling them. The US has much larger stockpiles of such weapons than Iraq or any other country.
* Bush has rejected a UN draft agreement to enforce a biological weapons ban, refused to sign the chemical weapons treaty and (like Saddam Hussein) refused to grant UN chemical weapons inspectors full access to US laboratories.

"[Iraq] retains physical infrastructure needed to build a nuclear weapon... And if an emboldened regime were to supply these weapons to terrorist allies, then the attacks of September 11 would be a prelude to far greater horrors."
* Retaining the infrastructure "needed to build" a nuclear weapon is not the same thing as building it. None of Bush's references to Iraqi nuclear capability demonstrate that Iraq possesses or plans to use nuclear weapons.
* By contrast, George Bush has ordered the Pentagon to draw up plans for dropping nuclear bombs on seven countries. The US is the world's leading producer of nuclear weapons and the only country in the world to ever drop a nuclear bomb.
* Raising the specter of Iraqi cooperation with "terrorists" is a cynical scare tactic. Attempts by US intelligence agencies to link Baghdad to al-Qaeda in the wake of 9/11 quickly proved groundless. There remains no evidence of Iraqi collusion with international terrorism.

"Are Security Council resolutions to be honored and enforced or cast aside without consequence?"
* Good question, George. Let's ask key US allies, like Turkey and Israel, which have long stood in violation of multiple Security Council Resolutions and enjoy overwhelming support from the US. (The US response to Israel's defiance of the Security Council is $3 billion a year in funding).
* The US itself is not in violation of Security Council Resolutions because it can veto any proposed resolution that is not to its liking. Thus, the US has vetoed more Security Council resolutions than any other country in the world.

"Free societies do not intimidate through cruelty and conquest."
* The US has bombed civilians indiscriminately (Afghanistan, Serbia, Iraq, Sudan);
* attempted to assassinate heads of government (Congo, Cuba, Libya, Iran);
* subverted democratic elections (Greece, Guatemala, Chile);
* blockaded civilian supplies of food and medicine (Nicaragua, Iraq, Cuba);
* supported policies of rape, torture and mass killing (Guatemala, Nicaragua, El Salvador);
* and backed regimes responsible for the world's worst human rights violations (Indonesia, Zaire, Iran, South Korea, Israel, Philippines).

"Saddam Hussein attacked Iran in 1980 and Kuwait in 1990. He's fired ballistic missiles at Iran and Saudi Arabia, Bahrain and Israel. His regime once ordered the killing of every person between the ages of 15 and 70 in certain Kurdish villages in northern Iraq. He has gassed many Iranians and 40 Iraqi villages."
* Most of Saddam Hussein's atrocities were committed while he was a close US ally and trading partner.
* The US sold Iraq military hardware and biological and chemical weapons equipment even after learning that Iraq used illegal chemical weapons against Kurdish civilians (in the Halabja massacre of 1988). US intelligence agencies believe that the massacre was carried out with US-made helicopters.
* Only in 1990, when Saddam Hussein disobeyed the US with his unauthorized invasion of Kuwait, was he converted from a key asset to a "rogue leader."

"These nations can show by their example that honest government, respect for women and the great Islamic tradition of learning can triumph in the Middle East and beyond."
* "Honest government?" Bush owes his presidency to a stolen election. Key members of his Cabinet and Bush himself are implicated in the shady dealings of corporations including Enron, Halliburton and Harken.
* "Respect for women?" Bush banned federal aid to international family planning programs that offer abortion counseling and closed the White House Office for Women's Health Initiatives and Outreach.
* "Tradition of learning?" Bush cut federal funding to libraries by $39 million and sought to eliminate a federal program that gives free books to poor children. His proposed tax cut for the richest 1% of the population is 128 times more than what he proposed to spend on federal reading programs.

"By heritage and by choice, the US will make that stand. And, delegates to the United Nations, you have the power to make that stand, as well."
* Bush's closing remark was a prime example of what Michael Moore refers to as the president's "bite me" foreign policy. Here, Bush bluntly informed the world that the US will pursue its war against Iraq with or without authorization from the United Nations.

"The conduct of the Iraqi regime is a threat to the authority of the United Nations and a threat to peace."
* Here's what Bush thinks of the authority of the United Nations: Since taking office, he has scrapped more international treaties and violated more UN conventions than the rest of the world has in 20 years.
* Under Bush, the US has opposed the Kyoto protocol on global warming, boycotted a conference to promote the comprehensive (nuclear) test ban treaty and ripped up the anti-ballistic missile treaty. Bush refuses to ratify the UN Convention on the Rights of the Child or sign the treaty to ban landmines. The US walked out of the 2001 UN World Conference Against Racism and virtually ignored the 2002 World Summit on Sustainable Development. And Bush is the only President in history to "unsign" a UN treaty - the Rome Treaty creating the International Criminal Court.
* As for being a "threat to peace," there's little doubt that Bush's "war on terror," which violates international law, the US Constitution, international human rights instruments and principles of international cooperation and collective security, is the single greatest threat to peace in the world today.
In light of the grave and gathering danger posed by the Bush Administration, we hereby call on the United Nations to declare the United States to be a "threat to peace" under Article 39 of the United Nations Charter. The Security Council, acting under Article 7 of the Charter, must countermand this threat.
In the event of a US veto of the Council's "enforcement action," we call on the UN General Assembly to invoke its Uniting for Peace Resolution of 1950 and assume the Security Council's mandate of enforcing international peace and security.
To quote the "president" of the United States, "Will the United Nations serve the purpose of its founding, or will it be irrelevant?"


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Innvertigo]
    #892932 - 09/19/02 10:14 AM (19 years, 13 days ago)

RE: "Grand Blanc is a wealthy suburb?..that's news to me"

You ever seen Warwick hills? - Thats where the PGA has the Buick Open once a year... I supose you live in a more upscale location, but I can asure you that there are some very expensive houses in Grand Blanc.


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #893555 - 09/19/02 02:29 PM (19 years, 13 days ago)

I don't ask god for much.Is it wrong to ask god to let georgie's head fall off?I don't mean someone cut it off,i mean he's just sitting there espousing his bullshit,and bingo,his head just falls off.Step back non-believers .


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Jammer]
    #893803 - 09/19/02 04:31 PM (19 years, 13 days ago)

I was being a tad sarcastic...being a homebody and all :grin:

nice houses along baldwin road..i was there today

Grand Blanc is nice but unfortunatly for them the first thing that comes to mind when discussing grand blanc is Flint (the worlds most useless city...next to detroit that is..)


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: francisco]
    #893918 - 09/19/02 05:26 PM (19 years, 13 days ago)

Story: When I was a kid I really wanted a bike. I prayed and prayed, but God didn't give me one. So I stole one and prayed for forgiveness.

hint, hint...


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Senor_Doobie]
    #894142 - 09/19/02 07:09 PM (19 years, 13 days ago)

How can you tell when a politician is lying?

His lips move.

George Bush is an asshole. I'd never thought I'd say this but, he makes me miss Clinton.


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    #895707 - 09/20/02 12:42 PM (19 years, 12 days ago)

****George Bush is an asshole. I'd never thought I'd say this but, he makes me miss Clinton.****

While i like Bush better than Clinton i can say without a shadow of doubt that i'm disappointed with him....does anyone know our domestic agenda?  We're so determined to rid the world of evil at the expense of our own countries problems.  I'm not sure who i can vote for now.. :confused:


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Innvertigo]
    #897935 - 09/21/02 07:26 PM (19 years, 11 days ago)

Weird, I'm a Democrat, however I have meet people more to the left than me. My parents are like this. My father actualy thinks that every time Wall Street goes down is due to the fact that George W. said something!! (and my family isnt exactly poor either)... shesh, my own folks are further to the left than even I am.

Go figure.


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Innvertigo]
    #898018 - 09/21/02 07:59 PM (19 years, 11 days ago)

lololol
did you guys expect more from a coke burn-out??

unlike pot, cocaine does harm neurons  :grin:


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: Innvertigo]
    #898095 - 09/21/02 08:28 PM (19 years, 11 days ago)

I'm not sure who i can vote for now..

Ralph Nader


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Re: Bush's Speech [Re: MortMtroN]
    #900006 - 09/22/02 08:59 PM (19 years, 10 days ago)

At least Ralph is down with the weed!!!


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