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Offlineanyone420
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i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all
    #8793014 - 08/18/08 09:45 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

agree, or disagree?

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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: anyone420]
    #8793016 - 08/18/08 09:46 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Agree.


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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: LSDreamer]
    #8793021 - 08/18/08 09:47 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

agreed,

i was really fucked up on a lot of shit
when i learned my grandmother died.

i didn't care at first,
i was just numb too it.

the pain the next days was rather relieving.


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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: anyone420]
    #8793028 - 08/18/08 09:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Um...disagree. Why would you rather feel pain if you had the choice not too? I can understand the torture of not feeling anything at all, that actually happened to me for a while, but if the only other option is feeling only pain, I'd say no. Now if what you're talking about is a choice between feeling no pain, or having full feeling INCLUDING pain, I'd take full feeling. I know how bad it feels to feel nothing.


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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: anyone420]
    #8793033 - 08/18/08 09:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

So my choices are:

a.) feel no pleasure, but feel pain.

or

b.) feel no pleasure, but don't feel pain.

Since both of these options allow no hedonistic satisfaction, and only one of the options allows me to avoid negative reinforcement, I'd go with feeling nothing at all.


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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: deCypher]
    #8793044 - 08/18/08 09:51 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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The Cypher said:
So my choices are:

a.) feel no pleasure, but feel pain.

or

b.) feel no pleasure, but don't feel pain.

Since both of these options allow no hedonistic satisfaction, and only one of the options allows me to avoid negative reinforcement, I'd go with feeling nothing at all.




Ok, you said it better than me. Thats pretty much exactly what I was trying to say.


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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: anyone420]
    #8793051 - 08/18/08 09:52 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

i dont think i've ever felt nothing.. is that possible?


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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: anyone420]
    #8793054 - 08/18/08 09:52 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

i'd rather feel nothing


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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: deCypher]
    #8793056 - 08/18/08 09:53 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

id rather feel pain

til the wheels fall off


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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: Alicedee25]
    #8793062 - 08/18/08 09:54 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Alicedee25 said:
i dont think i've ever felt nothing.. is that possible?




I have felt nothing but pain before...I was very close to killing myself for a long time...thankfully I pulled out of it before I did. To answer your question, I don't know if its possible to feel nothing, but I drawing on my own experience, I would suspect so. And I wouldn't wish it on anyone...


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Schizophrenia beats dining alone, you know.

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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: anyone420]
    #8793064 - 08/18/08 09:54 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

no way, I hate pain

I rather feel good than feel nothing at all, I also rather feel good than to feel pain.


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:drooling:GIVE ME OPIATES OR GIVE ME DEATH:drooling:

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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: aDoS]
    #8793082 - 08/18/08 09:57 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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aDoS said:
no way, I hate pain

I rather feel good than feel nothing at all, I also rather feel good than to feel pain.




LOL...well, duh. I think pretty much everyone would choose one of those options, thats why there is such a lucrative drug market!


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Schizophrenia beats dining alone, you know.

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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #8793087 - 08/18/08 09:58 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

but after feeling nothing for so long,
could you function for too much longer in this life


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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #8793092 - 08/18/08 09:58 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

yeah, its why God gave us the papaver somniferum plant.


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:drooling:GIVE ME OPIATES OR GIVE ME DEATH:drooling:

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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: maysrome]
    #8793104 - 08/18/08 10:01 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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but after feeling nothing for so long,
could you function for too much longer in this life




Its very hard to function while feeling nothing but pain, I would assume its just as hard if not harder to function while feeling nothing at all. I used to do crazy things just in order to feel fear or anything other than pain.


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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #8793136 - 08/18/08 10:07 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

That is a good question and I think the answer lies in how much pain it is. When the pain is too great nothing is better than something I might think.


But the song those lyrics come from is terrible.


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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: Ima Trooper]
    #8793204 - 08/18/08 10:20 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Ima Trooper said:
Quote:

maysrome said:
but after feeling nothing for so long,
could you function for too much longer in this life




Its very hard to function while feeling nothing but pain, I would assume its just as hard if not harder to function while feeling nothing at all. I used to do crazy things just in order to feel fear or anything other than pain.





so by your logic, assuming one could feel nothing but happiness, it would be incredibly hard for one to function if all they felt was good/joy/bliss


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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: demiu5]
    #8793218 - 08/18/08 10:22 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

^Probably.


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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: Frost]
    #8793219 - 08/18/08 10:22 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Would feeling nothing mean being nothing?

I don't think you can prove you exist beyond my feeling of your existing.

Or are you insinuating that you could instead of feeling have some sort of machine mind that had intellectual intent without having emotional intent?


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Re: i'd rather feel pain than feel nothin at all [Re: ExplosiveMango]
    #8793235 - 08/18/08 10:26 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Would feeling nothing mean being nothing?

I don't think you can prove you exist beyond my feeling of your existing.

Or are you insinuating that you could instead of feeling have some sort of machine mind that had intellectual intent without having emotional intent?




i was wondering this.  Nothing in the literal sense is impossible


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