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rise of the rat brained robots...
    #8792383 - 08/18/08 09:19 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)



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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: xshadowmage666x]
    #8793038 - 08/18/08 11:50 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

so they hooked up rat-brain-juice to some sensors and turned it on, eh?  i wonder how they can measure the actual thought of a living being.  i think the idea is great. maybe we can creat super powerful robots with human brains that we wont be able to undersand or control one day.


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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: magicgreenbeans]
    #8793280 - 08/19/08 12:35 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

That's the scariest thing I've seen in years


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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: xshadowmage666x]
    #8793688 - 08/19/08 02:08 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

we are gradually understanding how life occurs, without understanding the spark that starts life


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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: demiu5]
    #8794102 - 08/19/08 06:06 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

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we are gradually understanding how life occurs, without understanding the spark that starts life




QFT

When i first read this i was all "what the fuck man, what are we getting ourselves into!" this is absolutely crazy:eek:


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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: xshadowmage666x]
    #8803431 - 08/21/08 12:53 AM (9 years, 6 months ago)

That is awesome...


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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: Irieforester]
    #8811555 - 08/22/08 04:27 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

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That's the scariest thing I've seen in years




way scarier than growing organs :eek:


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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: Arp]
    #8815634 - 08/23/08 02:57 PM (9 years, 6 months ago)

Watch in a few years you'll be able to connect wireless devices into your head (tired of reaching for that mouse/keyboard?), don't worry though it'll probibly only be output only. Then in a couple decades people who are expiring will begin to be hooked up to machines like this and old brains may become adapted to run automated factories and security systems.


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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: ScavengerType]
    #8823469 - 08/25/08 07:43 AM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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old brains may become adapted to run automated factories and security systems.




Thats a crazy idea, but theres no way i would allow them to use my brain like that.


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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: DimensionX]
    #8824401 - 08/25/08 01:38 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

then they'd toss you in the trash and move onto the next corpse.


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"The things that are done in the name of the shareholder are, to me, as terrifying as the things that are done—dare I say it—in the name of God. Montesquieu said, "There have never been so many civil wars as in the Kingdom of God." And I begin to feel that’s true. The shareholder is the excuse for everything."
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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: ScavengerType]
    #8824519 - 08/25/08 02:08 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Awesome.

I love things like this.

As long as I can download my consciousness somewhere before I die.


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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8824779 - 08/25/08 02:53 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

actually I doubt that aspect of it is possible or will be for a long time. Though wiring your brain up is getting close.


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- Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now.
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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: ScavengerType]
    #8824793 - 08/25/08 02:56 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

I'm only 25.  I'm reasonably healthy and medical technology advances all the time.  I think I have a good chance of living to be 100, so they have 75 years to develop this technology.

75 years ago computers didn't exist, we weren't even sure what space was much less how to get there, and lobotomies were the height of neuroscience.

I think we have a chance.  Although you're certainly correct, it is a long way to go.


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He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: Madtowntripper]
    #8824890 - 08/25/08 03:15 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

Sory the hunter s tompson photo in your sig and your general attitude make me think your an old man. It's possible but it requires building a matrix for emulating neuro-networks, computers are awful at this right now. Then you would have to have your brain disassembled and translated into this electronic matrix.


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- Author and former M6/M5 agent John le Carré on Democracy Now.
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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: ScavengerType]
    #8824921 - 08/25/08 03:24 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Sory the hunter s tompson photo in your sig and your general attitude make me think your an old man. 





Ha!

I don't know whether to be offended or not.


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He who learns must suffer. And even in our sleep pain that cannot forget falls drop by drop upon the heart, and in our own despair, against our will, comes wisdom to us by the awful grace of God.  - Aeschylus


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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: ScavengerType]
    #8826895 - 08/25/08 09:33 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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actually I doubt that aspect of it is possible or will be for a long time. Though wiring your brain up is getting close.




You will be surprised sooner than you think.

Now think about this: Imagine your eyes were digitized (or "robotocized"; basically a different living substrate), now imagine your ears, your nose, and your mouth are digitized. These ideas aren't terribly controversial because they are more comfortable to deal with and don't really interfere with peoples ideas about what it means to be "conscious." Digitizing the brain is a much bigger obstacle to overcome because most people fail to recognize that it is a collection of parts much like the body is. A brain is not a singular organ; it is a networked grouping of different brains. So if you start digitizing each brain function one at a time - like the part that handles math, the part that handles memory, speech, etc... - it begins to look more probable that the human consciousness was really nothing more than an emergent effect built of a collection of organic machines.


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    #8827572 - 08/25/08 11:17 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: KarenTandy]
    #8827679 - 08/25/08 11:39 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

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That is way messed up.  What next organic tissue neuron based electronic super computers that learn?

I'm a little disturbed and a little skeptical at the same time.

It isn't digital it isn't analog it is neurological electronics.

Or maybe 'neurolog' or 'neuroital' electronics.  Scary stuff.

Imagine brain cells being used to make judgement calls in electronics for life or death situations.  Scary!




you make a few good points here.  you said: What next organic tissue neuron based electronic super computers that learn?

i believe this is a real possibility


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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: xshadowmage666x]
    #8827691 - 08/25/08 11:42 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

So whats wrong with that?  Life evolves, life changes.  You dont expect life to stay the way it is now forever do you?


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Re: rise of the rat brained robots... [Re: DieCommie]
    #8827744 - 08/25/08 11:49 PM (9 years, 5 months ago)

who said i wasnt exited about it...well in one way i am. i actualy enjoy change


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