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Toxek
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fruiting cakes
#8782735 - 08/16/08 03:16 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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so ive got 5 jars im planning to fruit, but they are taking extremely long to fully colonize. its been prolly 3 weeks and some jars are only 30% complete, so... say i wanted to fruit the mycelium that is on the cakes, instead of waiting til 100%. would it be best to crumble these cakes into something, or spawn them as they are? via dunk/roll methods. any opinions on what to do would be great, im planning to try it with 1 jar first to see what happens. in mean time i will let the others colonize further. let me kno :o thx
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Re: fruiting cakes [Re: Toxek]
#8782792 - 08/16/08 03:36 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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at 30% they will almost 100% guaranteed contam...
thats 70% of uncolonized substrate that when you take out of that jar will be attacked by every thing that spells contam.
wait a while. i get lazy and birth sometimes at about 90% and it colonizes the rest of the way in the FC, but i dont suggest this to anyone.
if youre THAT impatient, you could TRY to cut off the colonized parts and crumble/case them, but your effort is gonna to far outweigh your yield
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Re: fruiting cakes [Re: Toxek]
#8782810 - 08/16/08 03:40 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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30% colonization at 3 weeks is probably a good indicator of cobweb or a bacteria, unless you are using 1 pint jars or larger. IF however you want to fruit the colonized sub as is, be sterlie and do this: slice out chunks of the colonized parts, ONLY the colonized parts, pure myc, and use a glovebox. Put these chunks into a sterile plastic ziplock baggy, and crumble very well, as fine as you can get them. Add this crumbled cake to 2 or 3 times as much coir, and mix thuroughly. You prep coir by putting a brick in a bucket and pouring a gallon of boiling water over it, mix it when cool. Keep the ratio at 1:3 tops for cakes though, that way it colonizes faster, triples your yield, and leaves less time window for contams. When the coir/brf is colonized, case it, fruit when it's ready. It's just a good-easy, quick way to triple yield off of brf.
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Toxek
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Re: fruiting cakes [Re: ray40cal]
#8782895 - 08/16/08 04:06 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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there are no signs of contam on my jars, no green or anything, they look like good mycelium, what about starting to fruit them in the jar then moving them into a fc?
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Re: fruiting cakes [Re: Toxek]
#8782913 - 08/16/08 04:12 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I'd say they stalled due to lack of moisture or air. you can pop them out, wash off all the uncolonized bits under running water and use what you have. Give them a good soak to hydrate them and proceed to fruiting, casing or just bury them outside.
I have seen successful grow picks on here somewhere with funny shaped cakes that were cleaned of the uncolonized parts.
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hows ur temp for incubation,
cuz ive had a few tester cakes going for a while now, and theyre just starting to show growth, but i KNOW for a fact its my temp, cuz its anywhere from 50-80
i need to make a TiT
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Toxek
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Re: fruiting cakes [Re: Toxek]
#8782946 - 08/16/08 04:24 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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heh its prolly...65+? i turn on a heating pead with a towel between the jars on low for about 2 hours or more a day, not an all day pad. kinda like tht, i think they are still growing, just possibley very very slow lol. and thinking its not worth waiting for all the colonization times. maybe next time it will be faster
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Re: fruiting cakes [Re: Toxek]
#8782965 - 08/16/08 04:31 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Draw a line around the white stuff on the jar.Use a sharpie pen you can clean it off with isopropol alcohol later and it lets you see how much the stuff is growing.
Chucking a big jar full of hot water into a cheap styrofoam cooler makes a good incubator, just change the hot water once a day.
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Re: fruiting cakes [Re: Toxek]
#8782978 - 08/16/08 04:34 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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ideally incubation temps should be on the low side of 80's
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Re: fruiting cakes [Re: just me]
#8783040 - 08/16/08 05:01 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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i had jars that took a lil over a month to finish. no contams.
you just gotta get your moisture content right next time.
now my jars take 1-2 weeks
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Toxek
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could anyone show me pictures of what a "reshaped" cake looks like or some processes of how to do this :P im more of a visual learner
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Re: fruiting cakes [Re: Toxek]
#8787176 - 08/17/08 03:08 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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look up nillas scraping tek
ull get the idea
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