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Good casing mix?
    #8783251 - 08/16/08 08:00 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

i got 2 1/2 jars of BRF cakes im getting ready to birth and i wanted to try my luck with a simple casing tray...ive been doing my reading on casings and have seen many ingredients to mix to create your casing layers,things like 50/50 peat/verm,50/50+, gypsum, calcium carbonate?jiffy mix?, coir,coffee grounds? alot of the posts i searched were a couple years old and i know growings come a far way, as far as trial and error, since...so can someone let me in on their experience? also,can someone clear up what a casing is supposed to do? ive read 2 things a)casings are ONLY for moisture and b)casings are for moisture AND the food mushrooms need to grow...which is it? thanks in advance for trying to help me out


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Re: Good casing mix? [Re: Rhymenocerous]
    #8783282 - 08/16/08 08:09 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

All you need is in this bag and they have it everywhere >> the GIANT one is only like 12 bucks where I live :rockon:

O..You will want to pasteurize it though


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Re: Good casing mix? [Re: Blutjager]
    #8783310 - 08/16/08 08:14 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hmm?,I have seen the Miracle grow moisture control in all the stores,
but I never paid any mind to it.
What is in it?


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Re: Good casing mix? [Re: vater]
    #8783333 - 08/16/08 08:20 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I don't remember what it actually says is in it on the ingredient panel ..All I know is its cheap,its readily available and most importantly it works GREAT without you having to hunt down and mix up your own casing mixture :yesnod:


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Re: Good casing mix? [Re: Blutjager]
    #8783351 - 08/16/08 08:24 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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All you need is in this bag and they have it everywhere >> the GIANT one is only like 12 bucks where I live :rockon:

O..You will want to pasteurize it though




are you serious?just that bag of miracle grow moisture control by itself?it cant be that simple :thumbup:

how do i pasturize that...that was gonna be my next post...ive read that you can microwave the ingredients to pasturize them, can i do this cuz this seems like the easiest thing for me to do?


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Re: Good casing mix? [Re: Blutjager]
    #8783362 - 08/16/08 08:27 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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I don't remember what it actually says is in it on the ingredient panel ..All I know is its cheap,its readily available and most importantly it works GREAT without you having to hunt down and mix up your own casing mixture :yesnod:




im willing to search around for casing ingredients if it will result in overall better shrooms


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Re: Good casing mix? [Re: Blutjager]
    #8783368 - 08/16/08 08:28 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Blutjager said:
I don't remember what it actually says is in it on the ingredient panel ..All I know is its cheap,its readily available and most importantly it works GREAT without you having to hunt down and mix up your own casing mixture :yesnod:



I was just wondering if it had any nutez N,P,P in it?
If your using it,then I guess it doesn't.


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Re: Good casing mix? [Re: Rhymenocerous]
    #8783375 - 08/16/08 08:31 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

thats all u need.pasturize by putting mix in a pillow case,put that in a cooler pour boiling water over it till its covered,do it again in about 30 min u want to have temps between 160&180 for an hour


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Re: Good casing mix? [Re: Rhymenocerous]
    #8783381 - 08/16/08 08:33 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Blutjager said:
All you need is in this bag and they have it everywhere >> the GIANT one is only like 12 bucks where I live :rockon:

O..You will want to pasteurize it though




are you serious?just that bag of miracle grow moisture control by itself?it cant be that simple :thumbup:

how do i pasteurize that...that was gonna be my next post...Ive read that you can microwave the ingredients to pasteurize them, can i do this cuz this seems like the easiest thing for me to do?




Yes,it is that easy,I NEVER understood why people mix up their own,it may do a little better but when I was growing I used to toss my trays after 2 flushes anyway so what do I care,I'm not waiting around for stragglers..I'm freeing up prime real estate in the greenhouse for more projects.Than again I don't understand why allot of people do allot of the things they do here when they could do it so much easier..O well back on topic

Pasteurize

#1 put in jars

#2 put in PC and fill PC about 2/3rds up the jars with water

#3 put the cover on,leave the weight off

#4 bring to a boil

#5 let steam escape,boil for 5 min or so

#6 shut off heat

#7 let cool a half hr

#8 bring to a boil again like you just did,boil 5 more min,shut off heat and allow to cool to room temp

Your done :thumbup:


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Re: Good casing mix? [Re: noobieshroomie]
    #8783388 - 08/16/08 08:35 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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thats all u need.pasturize by putting mix in a pillow case,put that in a cooler pour boiling water over it till its covered,do it again in about 30 min u want to have temps between 160&180 for an hour




so you guys have had better results with this MG moisture control than other mixes? i think this is the first time ive heard about using MG, learn something new everyday


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Re: Good casing mix? [Re: Blutjager]
    #8783437 - 08/16/08 08:43 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Yes,it is that easy,I NEVER understood why people mix up their own,it may do a little better but when I was growing I used to toss my trays after 2 flushes anyway so what do I care,I'm not waiting around for stragglers..I'm freeing up prime real estate in the greenhouse for more projects.Than again I don't understand why allot of people do allot of the things they do here when they could do it so much easier..O well back on topic

Pasteurize

#1 put in jars

#2 put in PC and fill PC about 2/3rds up the jars with water

#3 put the cover on,leave the weight off

#4 bring to a boil

#5 let steam escape,boil for 5 min or so

#6 shut off heat

#7 let cool a half hr

#8 bring to a boil again like you just did,boil 5 more min,shut off heat and allow to cool to room temp

Your done :thumbup:




i got no PC...im more that newb,micro-scale grower that wants to try and experiment a bit....ive seen the light with pf cakes, its true its true, im not looking for bulk but a little more than a PF cake offers and i figured casing them will help in this venture...if MG works well i'll use that, but if some mixture is better suited for my situation im down for that too


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Re: Good casing mix? [Re: Rhymenocerous]
    #8783512 - 08/16/08 09:02 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

I don't have any step by step instructions as far as how to pasteurize without a PC but seeing as you do not actually bring the pressure cooker to pressure I'm sure you could probably apply the exact same technique to a pot of boiling water youth your jars in that :strokebeard: If anyone knows why this wouldn't wok please explain why cause I'm curious,it seems simple enough....Boil 5 min,let cool,boil 5 more and let cool again before use.It seems to me that as long as you make that happen it should work regardless of if it happens in a PC or not,I have just always used my PC so thats why I wrote it that way


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Re: Good casing mix? [Re: Blutjager]
    #8783545 - 08/16/08 09:10 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Hey Blutjager, you use MGMC for a CASING layer? I guess if it works, it works. :shrug: :grin:


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Re: Good casing mix? [Re: BrandNewbie]
    #8783560 - 08/16/08 09:13 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

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Hey Blutjager, you use MGMC for a CASING layer? I guess if it works, it works. :shrug: :grin:




Its nearly all I ever used to use..as a matter of fact once I discovered how easy it was and that it worked so well I don't think I ever used anything else as a casing layer.. I'm a grain to coir and cased with miracle grow and fruited in a greenhouse grower..well not anymore but thats how I liked to grow and the only way I view as worth the time and trouble


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Re: Good casing mix? [Re: Blutjager]
    #8784079 - 08/16/08 10:55 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

Too cool. :thumbup:

Just got tired of growing?


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Re: Good casing mix? [Re: Rhymenocerous]
    #8786393 - 08/17/08 01:48 PM (12 years, 6 months ago)

So no one else can offer me their proprietary blends?


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