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Re: WORLD WAR 3 [Re: aDoS]
    #8766917 - 08/13/08 08:25 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

someone wrote in a thread that if georgia is being savagely looted and being put through ethnic cleansing then why doesn't the U.S. media cover it?

the answer seems obvious (to me, at least): because first of all you would need concrete evidence of such acts being done before you announce it, because it's not a lightweight accusation. if the U.S. media claims russia is committing genocide over there the relations between the nations will freeze over and the states have clearly chosen a side.

the american mainstream media, as it looks to this day, is trying to distance america from the contact and is hesitating in taking a firm stance.


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Re: WORLD WAR 3 [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8766930 - 08/13/08 08:28 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I've been actively searching for news on this.  Here's a short, very recent AP report, that seems to confirm the looting:

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g8-DEMtAE9q4i4ySQ0eV_qZefmRQD92HEDL80

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TBILISI, Georgia (AP) — A Russian military convoy thrust deep into Georgia on Wednesday and Georgian officials said Russian troops bombed and looted the crossroads city of Gori, violating a freshly brokered truce intended to end the conflict. In the west, Georgia's weakened military acknowledged its soldiers had pulled out entirely from Abkhazia, leaving both breakaway regions at the heart of the fighting in the hands of Russian-backed separatists.




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Re: WORLD WAR 3 [Re: Ferris]
    #8766939 - 08/13/08 08:30 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

hikers that were camping in georgia were flown back to estonia on one of the last planes to take off and said on their way back they saw south-ossetians and georgians talking peacefully and getting along fine, there was no hostility between them.


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Re: WORLD WAR 3 [Re: Bridgeburner]
    #8769162 - 08/13/08 04:36 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

These events will probably lead to S. Ossetia and Abkhazia gaining independence. There's no way they'll ever settle for Georgian rule again after being so close.


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Re: WORLD WAR 3 [Re: zouden]
    #8769178 - 08/13/08 04:39 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Assuming big brother russia doesn't "annex" them along with georgia first


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Re: WORLD WAR 3 [Re: Ferris]
    #8769236 - 08/13/08 04:49 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I read yesterday in the paper that S. Ossetia said they'd prefer to be annexed by Russia than be ruled by Georgia.

They must really hate Georgia.


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Re: WORLD WAR 3 [Re: zouden]
    #8769373 - 08/13/08 05:07 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I for one am not beleiving any of the initial propoganda.  I wish there were some way that we could find the truth short of taking a plane there, going to the nearest bar, and polling people.


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Re: WORLD WAR 3 [Re: Ferris]
    #8769809 - 08/13/08 06:20 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

i wonder what russian news papers are saying right now, anyone read russian?


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Re: WORLD WAR 3 [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #8769837 - 08/13/08 06:24 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Someone could try using an auto-translation plugin on some Russian/Georgian/Ossetian news sites.

Maybe I will later, but for now, cs


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Re: WORLD WAR 3 [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #8769841 - 08/13/08 06:24 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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i wonder what russian news papers are saying right now



Probably something like "Georgia has weapons of mass destruction, and the invasion has nothing to do with oil or the Georgian pipeline":shrug:


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Re: WORLD WAR 3 [Re: Chemy]
    #8769855 - 08/13/08 06:28 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: WORLD WAR 3 [Re: Chemy]
    #8769940 - 08/13/08 06:45 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

lol so bush paid russia to invade so we didn't have to, then we send aid and "help them" build a democracy...:hellfire:


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