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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Innvertigo]
    #876875 - 09/11/02 07:57 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

I'm not justifying the attacks. I'm saying that the US did things to provoke them.

It's the same way the other way 'round. Obviously something was done to provoke the bombing in Afghanistan. This doesn't justify it.


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Xlea321]
    #877013 - 09/11/02 08:30 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

I have a hard time taking you serious so my reply will be short....kind of like your brain capacity


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Phluck]
    #877016 - 09/11/02 08:31 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

oh lord...how does it feel to live in such a circular world?


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Innvertigo]
    #877023 - 09/11/02 08:35 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

Your lack of a rational response, and use of personal insults indicates that I may have hit a sore spot.


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Innvertigo]
    #877064 - 09/11/02 08:52 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

Reguardless of who is cowardly and who is couragious, the fact still remains that you shouldn't fight violence with violence. It'll just cause a huge circle of death and sadness. Attempts to fight back would be useless and only cause more people to be injured.

After all, and eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Phluck]
    #877071 - 09/11/02 08:54 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

My response is quite rational...and no sore spot has been hit

example:

you say: They bombed you for a reason..you're at fault

I say: so you agree with them?

you say: No but i understand them

I say: so you're justifing it?

You Say: no it's horrible what happened..you should change your ways

I say: why don't they change their ways?

You say: because it's your fault

Do you see the circle in your logic?



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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Innvertigo]
    #877075 - 09/11/02 08:55 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

Why don't you all change your fucking ways then we wouldn't have this problem!!?!


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #877076 - 09/11/02 08:56 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

when the enemy only understands violence it is the only way to get your point across...i try to stay away from cliche's


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #877078 - 09/11/02 08:56 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

who are you all?


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Innvertigo]
    #877082 - 09/11/02 08:57 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

Everyone. Both sides..


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Innvertigo]
    #877088 - 09/11/02 09:00 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

But how do you know that they only understand violence? I'm sure they understand sorrow and pain as well as everyone. We are killing innocent people over there too, so does that make us cowardly as well? I would think it does.. or is it justified because they struck first? No, it's not, it's still the murder of innocent people, and cannot be justified by any means.


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #877096 - 09/11/02 09:03 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

***We are killing innocent people over there too***

they aren't our primary objective...innocent people die in war. That's tragic but there is a big difference between making them your target..

***does that make us cowardly as well? I would think it does****

Then you'd be wrong..but you are entitled to your opinion

****or is it justified because they struck first? No, it's not****

I believe it is...defense is always justifiable

****it's still the murder of innocent people, and cannot be justified by any means. ****

see above explanation


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Innvertigo]
    #877102 - 09/11/02 09:06 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

The US is PARTIALLY at fault. Not 100%. Would they have been attacked if they weren't such assholes? No. Should they have been attacked by those other assholes? No.

Everyone is at fault. Both sides are fucking retarded. Especially the individuals on both sides with no ability to understand the viewpoints of the opposing sides.

You say "why don't they change their ways?", I say "They should. So should you."

They simply aren't going to be able to change their ways and opinions when they are surrounded by war. War breeds hate, hate breeds war. Maybe one day they'll be able to change their ways, but in order to drastically alter the religious philosophy of a large group, you need time. Lots and lots of time. Christianity has changed, but it's taken hundreds of years.

Political changes are a whole lot easier to make, the US can do that no problem. Maybe they should try to find subversive ways of changing the culture over there, because dropping bombs on them isn't going to help.

You can't explode all your problems away.


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Innvertigo]
    #877113 - 09/11/02 09:09 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

It doesn't matter who stuck first. So they did something terribly wrong, but we are wrong to retaliate with anger and violence. Two wrongs don't make it right. Id this 'war' worth the lives of thousands of innocents?

they aren't our primary objective...innocent people die in war. That's tragic but there is a big difference between making them your target..
What is the difference? It's still lives wasted, people that shouldn't have died. Who are we to deal out judgement?

Like I said earlier, an eye for an eye makes the whole world blind.


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Phluck]
    #877117 - 09/11/02 09:12 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

Phluck, my dear.. I honestly could not have said it better myself. You hit the nail right on the fucking head.


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #877192 - 09/11/02 09:41 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

****So they did something terribly wrong, but we are wrong to retaliate with anger and violence****

tell that to the 3000 that were cowardly destroyed..or their families

****Who are we to deal out judgement?****

when we get attacked then we are....we have a right to do it


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Innvertigo]
    #877197 - 09/11/02 09:42 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

I think your views are very close minded.. but what do I know? I'm just a 17 year old girl who knows nothing of war.


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #877199 - 09/11/02 09:44 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

Oh I don't know...sounds like you're a few steps ahead of Invertigo...


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Acidic_Sloth]
    #877207 - 09/11/02 09:48 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

****I think your views are very close minded****

Typical liberal speech "if you don't agree with me you're closed minded"

and yes being 17 has a little to do with it


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Re: The victims of Sep 11 [Re: Rono]
    #877210 - 09/11/02 09:48 AM (19 years, 11 days ago)

****sounds like you're a few steps ahead of Invertigo***

In what direction? right or left?


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