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this dude i kinda know wnats to purchase some amanitas off the net,....what is the proper consumption for such things? i'd hate to hav him get all jammed up by taking too much.
thx
u4eea


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Re: amanitas [Re: u4eea]
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have you read the "amanitas" section, which is clickable from the shroomery front page, yet???


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Re: amanitas [Re: u4eea]
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yeah i have,..but all i found was stuff i  didnt need to know,...i wanna know if this friend of mine orders      THE GOODS
will he only need to eat one? i dont want him to go crazy or anything.
i did find out on that page, that putting them up your ass can make you trip your face off . lol :shocked:   


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Re: amanitas [Re: u4eea]
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Fly-agaric
Start with very low dosage, 1/2 a big cap.
Build up from there.
1 to 2 hrs to reach full effects, sometimes longer.
If he is sensitive to the chemicals death could easily be a result, low dosage first is a definite.


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Re: amanitas [Re: u4eea]
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Re: amanitas [Re: u4eea]
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  The prices seem ok for an internet vendor. Just start with few grams.. A friend of mine says he is triping very hard with 5 grams. I ate much more for the first time thinking I won't have much.. but I tripped more than 12 hours..  :smile: Luckily I had a good friend to watch over me..  Take care! I sugest you gather them on your own since they are (almost) everywhere..  Where are you from?

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Re: amanitas [Re: u4eea]
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i think this dude lives in jersey,..i met him online a while ago, .and i was concerned...hate to see a friend get mercked cause of such a happy fungi ...hehe


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Re: amanitas [Re: u4eea]
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Starting with about 5 grams dried is a good plan. Work up from there.

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Re: amanitas [Re: Murple]
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thanks for all your help people of the forum....lets all hope for ahappy trip =)

k+
u4eea


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Re: amanitas [Re: u4eea]
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i was talkin to my boy and he was like, "5g's...isnt that too much being that i only consume 3.5 on a strain like pink buff.?" and i was like,...not sure dood,..i'll check...lol
sooo i'm checking =D
answer back please
k+


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Re: amanitas [Re: u4eea]
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Ok doood, so because your friend only eats 3.5 grams of (PSILOCYBE)shrooms, does that mean that he only can drink 3.5 g of beer or does he need 3.5 g of asperin when he gets a headache? Dood your friend sounds fucked up.

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Re: amanitas [Re: Young_but_cool]
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my friend sounds f;d up? why is that? becasue he asked a simple Q? to me its a logical question. after all,..everything that has been reported on these bad boys say 1 boomer is enough to knock yer dick loose.
k+
u4eea
(time to inforce age restrictions?  :wink:


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Re: amanitas [Re: u4eea]
    #881263 -

What he is trying to say is you cannot compare the two species of shrooms in terms of potency as they contain different chemicals (drugs), therefore, it is not logical to compare potencies or reactions when they aren't potent in the same thing. These shrooms aren't on the same scale. Furthermore, some amanitas are poisonous and can kill with relatively low doses.


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Edited by SalviaEngland (09/13/02 01:41 AM)

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Re: amanitas [Re: SalviaEngland]
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Can this post be moved to the correct forum ?


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Edited by SalviaEngland (09/13/02 10:51 PM)

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Re: amanitas [Re: SalviaEngland]
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Dude, get your facts right.
amanitas are posionous just like alcohol and cigs are..For fucks sake when you you people undetand........Drugs are poisons>>Grrrrr.....
amanitas can kill with a releatively low dose, do not spread lies. people eat 30g to get a nice BOOM of a trip.. :mad: :mad: :grin: :shocked: :blush: :mad: 


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Re: amanitas [Re: dogkisser]
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amanitas suck.


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Re: amanitas [Re: dogkisser]
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Amanitas...
well, the fly cap & the panther cap are fairly forgiving...
but the death cap & a few others in this genus are quite poisonous, enough so that 1 cap could kill several people (total liver failure within 72 hours, etc...)
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Re: amanitas [Re: T0aD]
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I think this is a topic of Fly-agaric, which aint that fuckin dangerous if used correctly. Fuck the other deadly species, who would eat them??
Toad, shut the fuck up. Unless ye know what ye is on about.


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Drugs - Life

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Re: amanitas [Re: dogkisser]
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I wont shut up, and I know what Im saying
Ive read alot about fly agaric as I thought theyre the only shrooms that grow here, and know more than you for sure...
It is not dangerous it used correctly ?
Not dangerous, but always fucks up the livers tissue
do YOU know what youre saying ?


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Re: amanitas [Re: T0aD]
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Ah....ha.....ah ha ha ha.......Ah ha ha hahhhhhahaaahahha...
I never know what i am saying, i am God and you are all my ants, lie before me for i will be wanting some grapes very soon......i have tripped with aman many times and i am the holy spirit who will take over this planet and destroy all the monkeys.......


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Drugs - Life

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Re: amanitas [Re: dogkisser]
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If the question is about amanitas then no assumptions about which one should be made other wise you could be responsible for poisoning someone. It is probable that he is talking about Amanita muscaria var. muscaria but then again it could be Amanita phalloides.

I am not an expert but a friendly warning is better than an assumption, which could cost someone his or her life.

I hope this makes sense


""The popular interest in gathering and eating uncultivated mushrooms has
been associated with an increase in incidents of serious mushroom-related
poisonings (1 ). From December 28, 1996, through January 6, 1997, nine
persons in northern California require d hospitalization after eating
Amanita phalloides (i.e., " death cap") mushrooms; two of these persons
died. Risks associated with eating these mushrooms result from a potent
hepatotoxin. This report describes four cases of A. phalloides poisoning
in p atients admitted to a regional referral hospital in northern
California during January 1997 and underscores that wild mushrooms should
not be eaten unless identified as nonpoisonous by a mushroom expert. "


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Re: amanitas [Re: T0aD]
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There are no indications that A. Muscaria is harmful to the liver that I am aware of. Actually, the muscimol passes the liver rather unaffected. I've heard of some concernes that the myceal network could interfere with other myceal networks of more toxic aminitas near by. Doesn't seem likely, but Im no mycological toxin expert, Im to young for that shit.

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Re: amanitas [Re: Young_but_cool]
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hey assholio's...if you took the time to read the original thread, you would have seen that i'm talking about THESE  THESE AMANITAS
ok,...now what,..whats "proper" dosage? :confused:
u4eea


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Re: amanitas [Re: u4eea]
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Hey....arsehole kiss........if you would have read the other threads you would know by now........fuck me.........stupid.
Posts tend to get off the point quite alot.....it pisses me off sometimes too...... :mad: 


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Drugs - Life

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Re: amanitas [Re: dogkisser]
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:smirk:


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Re: amanitas [Re: u4eea]
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Amanita muscaria is variety of mushroom that grows widely almost everywhere in the northern hemisphere. It is listed as poisonous in most mycology sources and it's use is not common because it's effects can be somewhat unpleasant, though it has been used traditionally by a number of cultures. There are conflicting reports on whether there has ever been an A. muscaria caused fatality. Be careful! It may be poisonous at high doses or to sensitive individuals.
A. muscaria can be taken orally and there are also some claims that it can be smoked for effect. All parts of the mushroom are psychoactive, though there is some evidence that the material just under the skin is the most potent. The chart below shows approximate oral dosages dried A. muscaria in grams (g).

Dosage is for completely dried cap material only:


Oral A. muscaria Dosage

Light 1 - 5 g (1 medium cap)
Common 5 - 10 g (1-3 medium caps)
Strong 10 - 30 g (2-6 medium caps)

Onset : 30 - 120 minutes
Peak : 1 - 2 hrs
Duration : 5 - 10 hours (higher doses seem to last longer)
Additional After Effects : 1 - 5 hours

POTENCY VARIATION :
Many people recommend starting quite low when first working with Amanita muscaria, especially with an untested variety. Usually 1 small to medium cap is recommended as a starting dose. Once the strength of a given sample is known, many people recommend 1-5 caps totaling 5-20 grams of dried material.

The potency of individual A. muscaria mushrooms is highy variable, seemingly dependent upon the season in which they are picked and significant regional variations Mushrooms from the same area in different seasons may have different effects (ratio of nausea/body effects to mental / entheogenic effects).


If the post was in the right forum it mite of got a more educated responses - I don't know that much about them, I was just worried that some one was going to take a large dose of something which they did not know anything about In my opinion you can not compare the dose of cubs to these mushrooms which don't contain the same psychoactive components! If your not sensitive to Psilocybin it doesn't mean you wont be sensitive to Ibotenic Acid & Muscimol. That's the only point I was trying to make.

You are welcome to disagree but there is no need to flame.

btw I did take the time to read the posts but I failed to find where you state that you are talking about Fly Agaric Mushrooms and I must of mist the link.

be safe!



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Edited by SalviaEngland (09/13/02 10:53 PM)

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Re: amanitas [Re: SalviaEngland]
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thx mang for all thej helpfull info,...i will be trying them this weekend,......hopefully with good results


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