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Re: 9/11 Tragedy & Prayer [Re: Swami]
    #881271 - 09/13/02 02:14 AM (19 years, 18 days ago)

In reply to:

Here is a substantial real-world test with ZERO evidence to back up the alleged Power of Prayer to affect the outcome of events.



-Pretty much.

That's not to say it is going to stop anybody from praying.
Let the People have thier prayers/magic/etc...if its all shit, then why do ppl get so pissed when it does not work.?
-OoD
PS- this is not is not directed to anyone, I just have this view, and it usually gives me hell.

pardon the pun.


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Re: 9/11 Tragedy & Prayer [Re: Swami]
    #881732 - 09/13/02 11:00 AM (19 years, 17 days ago)

If prayer is placebo then feed me a life-time supply of sugar pills.


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Re: 9/11 Tragedy & Prayer [Re: Swami]
    #882300 - 09/13/02 03:55 PM (19 years, 17 days ago)

You need to do a better job of defining ineffective. Death doesn't mean ineffective.


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Re: 9/11 Tragedy & Prayer [Re: chemkid]
    #882327 - 09/13/02 04:10 PM (19 years, 17 days ago)

Death doesn't mean ineffective.

That certainly fails the litmus test when hundreds of terrified souls are praying for life.

What does "Ask and you shall receive." mean?

I hope your response is not the best a believer can come up with.


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Re: 9/11 Tragedy & Prayer [Re: Swami]
    #882356 - 09/13/02 04:24 PM (19 years, 17 days ago)

Swami, you're betraying your logic. Who's litmus test are you referring to? It may not fit your test but it fits mine fine. I am not saying I would be happy if I prayed for my mother not to die and she did anyway, but that doesn't negate the power of my praying.

The whole "ask and you shall receive" line is a cop out. Swami, I expect better from you. You know you are using this out of context. Ask and ye shall receive doesn't mean you get everything you want. It means be faithful and your life will be blessed. Ask for forgivness and it will be granted. It does not mean ask for a new Benz and you will receive. You are so caught up in the physical world that you think what is bad on this plane of existence is also bad on another.

Of course you're right.....I can not prove any of this to you, nor do I strive to do this impossible task. I simply urge you to not judge or pitty those of us who have other methods of finding peace.


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