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Any1 ever eatin panda?
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: Coaster]
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I often times find myself wondering how all of these "endangered" species taste. There's gotta be a reason most of them are dead right? I've been thinking baby dolphins would be tasty
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: Coaster]
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eh.. i haven't eaten at panda express in a while...
i moved on up to PEI WEI. it's worth the couple extra bucks.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: Coaster]
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That's fucked up.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: two_rivers]
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two_rivers said: eh.. i haven't eaten at panda express in a while...
i moved on up to PEI WEI. it's worth the couple extra bucks.
panda express
i agree totally.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: twboss]
#8754445 - 08/10/08 05:56 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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twboss said: I've been thinking baby dolphins would be tasty
dolphin isnt endangered
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: supra]
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panda express
I've eaten there once... it'll never happen again
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: Prisoner#1]
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That looks like General Tso's Chicken.
Eating a protected species is a very serious crime, especially in it's indigenous habitat.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: WakeboardrB]
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And panda wouldn't be served in a fucking Styrofoam container.
FAIL!
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: WakeboardrB]
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All orange chicken + noodles, thats how I order it. Coaster, if I was gay I'd fuck your face.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: Deity208]
#8754627 - 08/10/08 06:40 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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lol ummmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm thx
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: Coaster]
#8754631 - 08/10/08 06:41 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like half orange half spring rolls. The orange is nasty once it gets cold.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: The_Ghost]
#8754711 - 08/10/08 07:04 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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your mom is nasty once she gets a cold. fuck. im drunk. sorry, im eating panda express right now.
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I don't know what that picture is, but I want some. That shit looks fantastic!
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: twboss]
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twboss said: I often times find myself wondering how all of these "endangered" species taste. There's gotta be a reason most of them are dead right?
not true. Dodo birds are extinct because they were an easy source of food not because they tasted good.
so endangered animals are endangered because they aren't too bright. Like the panda it's so specialized it can't cope w/ the changing world.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: CosmicFool]
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twboss said: I often times find myself wondering how all of these "endangered" species taste. There's gotta be a reason most of them are dead right?
not true. Dodo birds are extinct because they were an easy source of food not because they tasted good.
so endangered animals are endangered because they aren't too bright. Like the panda it's so specialized it can't cope w/ the changing world.
yeah, it's their own fault.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: two_rivers]
#8754815 - 08/10/08 07:26 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Every animal goes extinct, w/ or w/out the presence of man.
100%.
That fact aside, why anyone would eat Panda Express is beyond me. For like, 1$ more you could have real Asian food that is undoubtedly of better quality and better for you.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: two_rivers]
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two_rivers said:
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twboss said: I often times find myself wondering how all of these "endangered" species taste. There's gotta be a reason most of them are dead right?
not true. Dodo birds are extinct because they were an easy source of food not because they tasted good.
so endangered animals are endangered because they aren't too bright. Like the panda it's so specialized it can't cope w/ the changing world.
yeah, it's their own fault.
Yeah actually, sometimes it is.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: WakeboardrB]
#8754843 - 08/10/08 07:30 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Actually, it always is.
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Madtowntripper said: Every animal goes extinct, w/ or w/out the presence of man.
100%.
That fact aside, why anyone would eat Panda Express is beyond me. For like, 1$ more you could have real Asian food that is undoubtedly of better quality and better for you.
true enough... however, there is no denying all the species in today's world that face extinction as a result of man... especially the example i was referring to, the PANDA... it's not their own fault.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: two_rivers]
#8754876 - 08/10/08 07:37 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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No?
How is the fault of man that pandas reproduce incredibly slowly, have an extremely limited diet, and need large spaces in which to roam?
I'm not saying that man does not share SOME of the blame for the extinction of many animals, and most of the blame for some. But the panda species is terribly ill-suited to adapt to ANY change in its environment. That the change comes from man is incidental; it would have occurred eventually.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: g00ru]
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Madtowntripper said: No?
How is the fault of man that pandas reproduce incredibly slowly, have an extremely limited diet, and need large spaces in which to roam?
I'm not saying that man does not share SOME of the blame for the extinction of many animals, and most of the blame for some. But the panda species is terribly ill-suited to adapt to ANY change in its environment. That the change comes from man is incidental; it would have occurred eventually.
i don't know.. sounds like you have a bad case of denial.
the pandas had their niche just like any other creature. they've been in existence for thousands and thousands of years. if humans didn't breed like rabbits and fuck up the balance then they would have continued on in their niche for thousands more years.
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All species go extinct??? Okay maybe once the Earth is finally dead they will. But lately they have been finding fish in the deep sea that have gone unchanged for 100.000's of years if not longer. And have survived very cataclysmic events that decimated other species to extinction. And then there is the fact that some dont go extinct they have just evolved into a similar but at the same time very different creature as a part of adaptation. To say that all species go extinct is fairly ignorant.
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hawksapprentice said: All species go extinct??? Okay maybe once the Earth is finally dead they will. But lately they have been finding fish in the deep sea that have gone unchanged for 100.000's of years if not longer. And have survived very cataclysmic events that decimated other species to extinction. And then there is the fact that some dont go extinct they have just evolved into a similar but at the same time very different creature as a part of adaptation. To say that all species go extinct is fairly ignorant.
I think the reference was meant in the perspective that on a long enough scale the survival rate for everybody and everything equates to zero. Not to mention 99% of all species ever existed are now extinct, and there have been many full-blown mass extinctions in our planet's history leading one to believe there will absolutely be another at some point.
Oh, and I think the panda argument is flawed. Any extinction can have multiple culprit perspectives, as the panda's evolutionary flaws is to blame just like society's encroachment. But if we get hit by an asteroid, is it the humans' fault we can't survive nuclear fallout, no food, and no water? I guess it can be construed that way. Get me? it's all relative.
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hawksapprentice said: All species go extinct??? Okay maybe once the Earth is finally dead they will. But lately they have been finding fish in the deep sea that have gone unchanged for 100.000's of years if not longer. And have survived very cataclysmic events that decimated other species to extinction. And then there is the fact that some dont go extinct they have just evolved into a similar but at the same time very different creature as a part of adaptation. To say that all species go extinct is fairly ignorant.
yeah, i think that's what he meant... or at least that's how i took it. on a long enough time line, every creature will face extinction because earth will inevitably one day be destroyed, whether it's when the sun goes super nova, or it gets hit by a gigantasaurus meteor, or whatever. and plus if a species evolves, it wasn't what it was before anymore. that species is extinct and a new species is born.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: two_rivers]
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that species is extinct and a new species is born.
So in fact the panda is being selfish by not going extinct! The panda is denying the future species the niche that it now occupies.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: two_rivers]
#8754981 - 08/10/08 08:09 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Panda express is the worst Asian food ever, i ate there once and it was sooooo awful.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: jazzillion]
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hawksapprentice said: All species go extinct??? Okay maybe once the Earth is finally dead they will. But lately they have been finding fish in the deep sea that have gone unchanged for 100.000's of years if not longer. And have survived very cataclysmic events that decimated other species to extinction. And then there is the fact that some dont go extinct they have just evolved into a similar but at the same time very different creature as a part of adaptation. To say that all species go extinct is fairly ignorant.
I think the reference was meant in the perspective that on a long enough scale the survival rate for everybody and everything equates to zero. Not to mention 99% of all species ever existed are now extinct, and there have been many full-blown mass extinctions in our planet's history leading one to believe there will absolutely be another at some point.
Oh, and I think the panda argument is flawed. Any extinction can have multiple culprit perspectives, as the panda's evolutionary flaws is to blame just like society's encroachment. But if we get hit by an asteroid, is it the humans' fault we can't survive nuclear fallout, no food, and no water? I guess it can be construed that way. Get me? it's all relative.
ya beat me to it...
as to what you were saying about pandas...
i don't follow. nuclear fallout from an asteroid?
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: two_rivers]
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hawksapprentice said: All species go extinct??? Okay maybe once the Earth is finally dead they will. But lately they have been finding fish in the deep sea that have gone unchanged for 100.000's of years if not longer. And have survived very cataclysmic events that decimated other species to extinction. And then there is the fact that some dont go extinct they have just evolved into a similar but at the same time very different creature as a part of adaptation. To say that all species go extinct is fairly ignorant.
I think the reference was meant in the perspective that on a long enough scale the survival rate for everybody and everything equates to zero. Not to mention 99% of all species ever existed are now extinct, and there have been many full-blown mass extinctions in our planet's history leading one to believe there will absolutely be another at some point.
Oh, and I think the panda argument is flawed. Any extinction can have multiple culprit perspectives, as the panda's evolutionary flaws is to blame just like society's encroachment. But if we get hit by an asteroid, is it the humans' fault we can't survive nuclear fallout, no food, and no water? I guess it can be construed that way. Get me? it's all relative.
ya beat me to it...
as to what you were saying about pandas...
i don't follow. nuclear fallout from an asteroid?
yeah, I made an ass out of my own argument.
To make the point I was trying to make, like DieCommie said, the pandas can be guilty for existing just as much as they can be for not existing. Arguing who is at fault for a species' extinction is failed, as it's perspective specific, making it completely relative in the context of Dawrnism.
Hypothetically saying humans caused bald eagles to go extinct because of DDT, can also be viewed as, bald eagles couldn't adapt and build a resistance to DDT fast enough, so they are now extinct.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: jazzillion]
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hawksapprentice said: All species go extinct??? Okay maybe once the Earth is finally dead they will. But lately they have been finding fish in the deep sea that have gone unchanged for 100.000's of years if not longer. And have survived very cataclysmic events that decimated other species to extinction. And then there is the fact that some dont go extinct they have just evolved into a similar but at the same time very different creature as a part of adaptation. To say that all species go extinct is fairly ignorant.
I think the reference was meant in the perspective that on a long enough scale the survival rate for everybody and everything equates to zero. Not to mention 99% of all species ever existed are now extinct, and there have been many full-blown mass extinctions in our planet's history leading one to believe there will absolutely be another at some point.
Oh, and I think the panda argument is flawed. Any extinction can have multiple culprit perspectives, as the panda's evolutionary flaws is to blame just like society's encroachment. But if we get hit by an asteroid, is it the humans' fault we can't survive nuclear fallout, no food, and no water? I guess it can be construed that way. Get me? it's all relative.
ya beat me to it...
as to what you were saying about pandas...
i don't follow. nuclear fallout from an asteroid?
yeah, I made an ass out of my own argument.
To make the point I was trying to make, like DieCommie said, the pandas can be guilty for existing just as much as they can be for not existing. Arguing who is at fault for a species' extinction is failed, as it's perspective specific, making it completely relative in the context of Dawrnism.
Hypothetically saying humans caused bald eagles to go extinct because of DDT, can also be viewed as, bald eagles couldn't adapt and build a resistance to DDT fast enough, so they are now extinct.
ok, yeah. i see what you're getting at.
but i don't think that idea holds up.
that's like going around punching people in the face and saying, "no, it's your own fault, your face was in the way of my fist."
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: jazzillion]
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hawksapprentice said: All species go extinct??? Okay maybe once the Earth is finally dead they will. But lately they have been finding fish in the deep sea that have gone unchanged for 100.000's of years if not longer. And have survived very cataclysmic events that decimated other species to extinction. And then there is the fact that some dont go extinct they have just evolved into a similar but at the same time very different creature as a part of adaptation. To say that all species go extinct is fairly ignorant.
No, it's not ignorant. I'm a geologist, I am quite familiar with the history of life on this planet. Everything goes extinct. The few species alive now are an infinitesimal drop-in-the-bucket of historical global diversity.
Again, since some of you seem to be construing my argument to say that extinction caused by man doesn't exist or is somehow justified. It's not. I'm just saying that the RATE of the extinction of the panda, that it is disappearing at an extreme rate, is not entirely our fault. It is a poorly adaptive species. As are many. And what happens to the panda is what happens to all poorly adaptive species. They die.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: two_rivers]
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Lol funny analogy, but in the context of evolution it's nobody's fault. Symbiotic evolution has no fault, just chaotic existence and non-existence. IMO, evolutionary consequence is impossible to measure in any context, other than historically.
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hawksapprentice said: All species go extinct??? Okay maybe once the Earth is finally dead they will. But lately they have been finding fish in the deep sea that have gone unchanged for 100.000's of years if not longer. And have survived very cataclysmic events that decimated other species to extinction. And then there is the fact that some dont go extinct they have just evolved into a similar but at the same time very different creature as a part of adaptation. To say that all species go extinct is fairly ignorant.
No, it's not ignorant. I'm a geologist, I am quite familiar with the history of life on this planet. Everything goes extinct. The few species alive now are an infinitesimal drop-in-the-bucket of historical global diversity.
Again, since some of you seem to be construing my argument to say that extinction caused by man doesn't exist or is somehow justified. It's not. I'm just saying that the RATE of the extinction of the panda, that it is disappearing at an extreme rate, is not entirely our fault. It is a poorly adaptive species. As are many. And what happens to the panda is what happens to all poorly adaptive species. They die.
but you can't really fault them for that... they adapted to their environment, they earned their right, they had their comfy lil niche all carved out for themselves. now we've gone and fucked it up for 'em. it wouldn't even matter if they were a poorly adaptive species or not if humans weren't in the equation. in fact, you wouldn't even have realized they were poorly adaptive unless we didn't put them into this situation.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: two_rivers]
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Megafauna are very susceptible to extinction in general. They evolve very specialized diets, require large areas of particular habitat and are evolved into dead ends where mutations cant keep up with changing environments.
This has been happening since the last ice age, nearly all 'modern' megafauna have already gone extinct. The fact that pandas, rhinos, elephants, tigers and the like are still around is amazing.
Their number is up. Whether its this century or a few millennium doesn't make much of a difference in the long run. And human intervention certainly speed it up a bit, but was also helped by their extinction. Thats what always happens when old dead end species go extinct... new ones explode to fill the niche.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: DieCommie]
#8756338 - 08/11/08 12:17 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I like how this thread started about panda express and now its a debate about extinction haha
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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus. All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV. But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns. Also he got a race car. Is any of this getting through to you?
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: two_rivers]
#8756384 - 08/11/08 12:26 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Madtowntripper said: i don't know.. sounds like you have a bad case of denial.
No, hippie, you do.
He's speaking about how evolution works. And he is completely right.
Read up on it, pretty cool stuff.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: Gumby]
#8756425 - 08/11/08 12:36 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Baby seal steaks are the best tasting thing on the planet.
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Huh. a geologist usually doesn't really specialize in the knowledge of animal ecology. The fact that you study the earth itself and and the way it evolves has some correlation, but by no means makes you an expert on animal sciences and there ability to adapt to changing climates. The fast that your a geologist is very irrelevant unless you had a minor in ecology or animal science.
And yes the rapid rate of decline of the Panda is directly due to human encroachment into there natural habitat. Had humans not been here and decimating there environment at an extremely high rate they would be doing just fine.
As a geologist, as you claim to be, you would know that environmental changes to ecosystems, precluding natural disasters such as volcanic eruptions, meteors etc., don't come on nearly as quickly as man taking chain saws to forests and then slash and burning the land for live stock grazing. Your logic in my opinion is some what flawed.
Of course a VERY large percentage of all life on this planet has gone extinct. But the rate at which it is happening now is at a much more alarming rate than normal.
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hawksapprentice said: All species go extinct??? Okay maybe once the Earth is finally dead they will. But lately they have been finding fish in the deep sea that have gone unchanged for 100.000's of years if not longer. And have survived very cataclysmic events that decimated other species to extinction. And then there is the fact that some dont go extinct they have just evolved into a similar but at the same time very different creature as a part of adaptation. To say that all species go extinct is fairly ignorant.
No, it's not ignorant. I'm a geologist, I am quite familiar with the history of life on this planet. Everything goes extinct. The few species alive now are an infinitesimal drop-in-the-bucket of historical global diversity.
Again, since some of you seem to be construing my argument to say that extinction caused by man doesn't exist or is somehow justified. It's not. I'm just saying that the RATE of the extinction of the panda, that it is disappearing at an extreme rate, is not entirely our fault. It is a poorly adaptive species. As are many. And what happens to the panda is what happens to all poorly adaptive species. They die.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: jazzillion]
#8756879 - 08/11/08 04:13 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Madtowntripper said: i don't know.. sounds like you have a bad case of denial.
No, hippie, you do.
He's speaking about how evolution works. And he is completely right.
Read up on it, pretty cool stuff.
what the!? ...that's some unnecessary smart assness...
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Deity208 said: I like how this thread started about panda express and now its a debate about extinction haha
haha! i know huh? i guess it's my fault. sorry!
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jazzillion said: Lol funny analogy, but in the context of evolution it's nobody's fault. Symbiotic evolution has no fault, just chaotic existence and non-existence. IMO, evolutionary consequence is impossible to measure in any context, other than historically.
yeah, i'm just gonna agree with you. forget i said anything. from a far enough zoomed out perspective, none of this shit matters and it's all silly.
so how 'bout that orange chicken with chow mein?
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: two_rivers]
#8756890 - 08/11/08 04:23 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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baby seal, tastes like heavenly meat.
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Re: Any1 ever eatin panda? [Re: Coaster]
#8769946 - 08/13/08 06:47 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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It's just like the story of the grasshopper and the octopus. All year long, the grasshopper kept burying acorns for winter, while the octopus mooched off his girlfriend and watched TV. But then the winter came, and the grasshopper died, and the octopus ate all his acorns. Also he got a race car. Is any of this getting through to you?
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