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Malcolm X
    #8753678 - 08/10/08 03:22 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I'm a history junkie, I'll listen or read anything in regards to times and moments in history that interest me. I'm also very interested in psychology and political movements. I've always had a left bent to my thinking even though I'm a white middle class kid from the suburbs (blue collar though). Lately I've been thinking a lot about political thought and philosophy that leads to revolution (as evidenced by my previous thread talking about the USSR and Thomas Jefferson)

I've been really inspired by the work of Zack De La Rocha and especially his new project One Day As A Lion so I've been trying to read up on his influences and the people that have inspired him and their philosophies (I know this sounds really geeky and non-conformist but I find it interesting people who are angry and have a greivence with the modern day) and through this reading I've worked my way to a podcast of Malcolm X and his speech entitled The Ballot or the Bullet.

It seems like in the 60s and the 70s the minorities of the United States specifically the black, latin, and indian population were going to raise themselves up in the political arena and improve themselves and their communities with education. Yet I look around today and I don't know what happened to these causes and it seems like this element of the minority population has been heavily dumbed down in their culture (examples being music and media directed to them) and it doesn't seem right considering how almost self sufficient the black community became in the first half of the twentieth century (examples being black owned businesses and the negro league)

The reason I mention all this is because this speech from Malcolm X is in the middle of this transitional period when his doppleganger Martin Luther King was leading the black community to integrate into American Society peacefully Malcolm X was saying for his people to leave American society forcefully.

Martin Luther King's philosophy of peaceful integration was eventually adopted but a lot of what Malcolm X is saying in this speech I'm listening too about what will happen if the black community integrates happened as well.

This is really fascinating. I know it's taboo and nearly impossible to have an intelligent discussion about race in America in the 21st century since everyone just agrees to disagree. However, I want to know about this and the philosophies behind what Malcolm X is saying and what others think about all this.


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Re: Malcolm X [Re: StrandedVoyager]
    #8753809 - 08/10/08 03:47 PM (15 years, 5 months ago)

I've been thinking about black culture a lot as well, and I think they actually did do what Malcom X espoused to some degree.  When I look at black culture, I see people who have no interest in "success" in the same way white people are.  Their culture is almost a tragic mockery of ours; it's capitalist to the most extreme level.  It's almost like they became so disillusioned with the white world they were trying to become part of that they all said "fuck it" and decided to do something different entirely.

I had this thought while blazing and listening to Lil' Wayne's Tha Carter III.  That album explains black culture to me.


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