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    #874544 - 09/10/02 10:33 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

hey
and have decided to take a try at something else. I was reffered to this site and have read over several teks. I was wondering if someone could make suggestions for the following (taking into account that I AM A BEGINNER)

-For making a substrate, do you recommend using the brown rice flour technique or birdseed? (for a first time!)
-Also, as this is my first time, should I try casing to improve my yield or is it too complicated?
-Are the advantages of a pressure cooker so good as I should invest in one rather than using a regular pot?

Thanks alot guys, I will be posting pics once I start

P.S. How long does it take for spore works to deliver syringes to Southern ONtario area?

Edited by psilocybinjunkie (09/10/02 10:36 AM)

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Re: mmmm mushrooms [Re: mushbox]
    #874548 - 09/10/02 10:37 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

In reply to:

-For making a substrate, do you recommend using the brown rice flour technique or birdseed? (for a first time!)



Start out with the PF Tek so that you can get your feet wet.

In reply to:

-Also, as this is my first time, should I try casing to improve my yield or is it too complicated?



For the first grow, I recommend the PF Tek.

In reply to:

-Are the advantages of a pressure cooker so good as I should invest in one rather than using a regular pot?



If you can invest in a PC now, do it. It works great for the PF Tek and is virtually mandatory when working with grains.

Peace


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Re: mmmm mushrooms [Re: mushbox]
    #874557 - 09/10/02 10:41 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Ok i had to edit out the bad in your post :shocked:
Now to answer your questions...
Use brf for your first time it's the easiest and the least likely to contaminate.
Second do a mix half cakes and half casing. Use half your cakes for casings and half as cakes that way you get experience both ways. I also suggest a straight verm casing at first as it's the easiest.
THird use a pot. No need for a pressure cooker until you are ready to try grains/ birdseed
And finally. I recommend you try Thai ks or Thai Lipa Yai for your first try. it will be easy and rewarding if you use one of these :wink:

Edited by psilocybinjunkie (09/10/02 10:44 AM)

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Re: mmmm mushrooms [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #874579 - 09/10/02 10:53 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Thanks alot guys

sorry you had to edit...anyways just to tell you, I have already ordered Equador and Amazonian as I was told they were generally easier to grow. Oh yeah, if I try both ways, can I put the cased and the regular cakes in the same terrarrium or is the humidity difference that important....by the way I am using perlite as a humidity source!

Oh yeah....when can I expect my syringes, its killing me!

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Re: mmmm mushrooms [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
    #874582 - 09/10/02 10:54 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

>Use half your cakes for casings and half as cakes that way you get experience both ways.

This is a good suggestion.

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Re: mmmm mushrooms [Re: mushbox]
    #874583 - 09/10/02 10:54 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

I feel that the difference is important. Cakes like it near 100% and fruiting casings prefer to be near 90%.

Good luck!


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Re: mmmm mushrooms [Re: mushbox]
    #874591 - 09/10/02 10:59 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

you can put them in together no probs...
Perlite is fine for humidty just don't over wet it.
Good call on 2 different strains too :laugh:
Eq's are great. i hear good things about amazonians also.

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Re: mmmm mushrooms [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #874607 - 09/10/02 11:06 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

so your basically saying that trying both way means that I'll just have to make two terrariums?

Anyways, while I'm waiting for the syringes (how long will I wait) I have purchased my vermiculite, perlite and other odds and ends. I guess I will have to pick up a cheap Pressure Cooker (how low do they go?) and since you suggested, some brf!

I'm getting so damn excited

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Re: mmmm mushrooms [Re: mushbox]
    #874640 - 09/10/02 11:20 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

I prefer to have my fruiting efforts separated if I have cakes and casings around -- their preferred conditions are slightly different. Normally, I don't have any cakes around. When I do, I use an old 10 gallon aquarium filled with moist perlite.

Good luck!


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Re: mmmm mushrooms [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #874705 - 09/10/02 11:43 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

So for casings do you think I should use a method other than perlite to humidify? What method should I use then?

And just out of curiousity, beside humidity levels, are there any other differences in the terrariums I should make?

Thanks a lot

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Re: mmmm mushrooms [Re: mushbox]
    #874710 - 09/10/02 11:45 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Casings provide their own humidity for the most part. A good place for you to start would be the cultivation FAQ.


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Re: mmmm mushrooms [Re: mushbox]
    #875066 - 09/10/02 02:26 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

perlite will work for your casings...
And you can put em in the same fruiting chamber if you like :smile:

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