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Platinum
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Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal?
#8743994 - 08/08/08 12:55 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Throughout my psychedelic journey in life I've encountered many individuals who are allergic to insulin. A bunch of people who I know who have eaten mushrooms are allergic to insulin too, and they all turned out just fine.
What's the deal with this? Do shrooms just have low levels of insulin or somethin? A lot of people I know who are allergic always get scared to take em, but they do anyway and turn out just fine.
I'm a little confused in this area.
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ChiefGreenLeaf
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: Platinum]
#8744030 - 08/08/08 01:00 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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umm... I don't think anyone can be allergic to insulin. Its necessary for our biochemistry to work. It regulates our blood glucose levels. Now they could be insulin resistant, resulting in diabeetus. I've never heard of insulin allergies before.
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: ChiefGreenLeaf]
#8744151 - 08/08/08 01:22 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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ChiefGreenLeaf said: umm... I don't think anyone can be allergic to insulin. Its necessary for our biochemistry to work. It regulates our blood glucose levels. Now they could be insulin resistant, resulting in diabeetus. I've never heard of insulin allergies before.
agreed.
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: smokeybear]
#8744372 - 08/08/08 01:57 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I had type one diabetes 5 years before I took my first mushroom... if it affected insulin I'd notice. No problems yet.
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Platinum
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: myc0man]
#8744458 - 08/08/08 02:14 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://yourtotalhealth.ivillage.com/insulin-allergy.html said: Insulin Allergy
An insulin allergy is an allergic response to an insulin Insulin can be administered by syringe, pump and other ways.medication. Insulin is a hormone normally produced by the pancreas that is taken via injection or other means by some people with diabetes. People whose bodies do not produce insulin or cannot use it properly may be prescribed insulin to regulate their glucose (blood sugar) levels.
Some people have an allergic response to insulin medication, although it occurs rarely.
An allergy occurs when the immune system identifies a harmless substance as being dangerous and produces antibodies to fight the substance. For some people with insulin allergies, the allergy goes undetected until they suffer an allergic reaction.
Insulin allergies occur because injectable insulin is not exactly the same as naturally produced human insulin. Insulin medication in the United States is almost exclusively a form that is genetically engineered to resemble natural human insulin. The chemical makeup of these human insulins is often modified slightly to change the duration of the insulin action. Rarely insulin from animal sources is used to treat diabetes. Allergic reactions are reactions to these differences, as well as the additives, bacteria and impurities that are present in synthetic human and animal-derived insulin. Insulin allergies are more common with insulin made from animals than with synthetic human insulin.
Allergic reactions associated with the use of insulin can be local (appearing around the injection site) or can affect two or more body systems (anaphylaxis). A local allergic reaction may cause itching, redness or swelling at the injection site. Anaphylaxis may cause breathing difficulty, rash and a drop in blood pressure. Without immediate emergency treatment, anaphylaxis can quickly progress to anaphylactic shock and become deadly.
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ShroomyTunes
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: Platinum]
#8744486 - 08/08/08 02:21 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah alot of people are allergic to peanuts and for some reason they can eat mushrooms without a reaction. MAKES NO SENSE AT ALL
seriously though I'm not sure I understand the question...
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libertyshroom
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: myc0man]
#8744563 - 08/08/08 02:35 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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myc0man said: I had type one diabetes 5 years before I took my first mushroom... if it affected insulin I'd notice. No problems yet.
I too have type 1 and am sure it does not affect anything diabetes related but I don't even understand what the OP was saying because it didn't make sense lol
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: libertyshroom]
#8744668 - 08/08/08 02:58 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Type one diabetic here as well! Holler!
I've never taken shrooms, so I can't really give much advice towards something like that, however I've noticed nothing with LSD and insulin.
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Platinum
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: Glassjaw]
#8744686 - 08/08/08 03:03 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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the question is mushrooms have insulin in them. if someone is allergic to insulin, how is it that they dont have some sort of reaction? or at least he people i've encountered.
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myc0man
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: Platinum]
#8744837 - 08/08/08 03:42 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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errr that's the thing, I'm fairly certain mushrooms don't contain insulin.
To all those w/diabetes: http://www.realitycheck.org.au/12-recreational-drugs.htm
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fallenlsd
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: myc0man]
#8744976 - 08/08/08 04:05 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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where did you hear that mushrooms contain insulin?
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: fallenlsd]
#8745020 - 08/08/08 04:16 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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pretty sure mushrooms dun contain insulin
people can have allergic reactions to many things you would think uncommon. i personally have reactions to heat/cold, pressure, friction, and probably some other things.
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: Platinum]
#8745328 - 08/08/08 05:28 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mushrooms can cause a histamine release, so someone with another allergy who is not aware of this side effect may be confused (especially while tripping) and think they're having an allergic reaction.
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Platinum
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: monkeyheaven]
#8745571 - 08/08/08 06:28 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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i was told by my friends who are allergic to insulin that they cant eat mushrooms in general for this reason... unless they are misinformed. But I feel like someone who has allergies would know what they can and cant have.
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: Platinum]
#8745575 - 08/08/08 06:29 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Mushrooms will most definitely contain insulin in a slightly different form to our natural insulin. It's probably more similar to the synthetic than the human insulin and can trigger an allergic reaction.
The part of a peptide which causes an allergic reaction (epitope), is only 5 amino acids long and is probably an identical sequence in mushrooms and synthetics even if the rest differs a bit.
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: DrOli]
#8746340 - 08/08/08 09:04 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Insulin is something produced in the pancreas...how could mushies have insulin? They have glucose and stuff, though...I assume.
My good friend is a Type 1 diabetic and he said insulin would kill you if you put it in a non-diabetic. So...Diabetes is the inability to produce insulin, thus they need insulin to break down the glucose in food...right?
Am I missing something here or what?
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: TheArsenal]
#8748263 - 08/09/08 10:47 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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im not talking about diabetes. diabetes has nothing to do with being allergic. im talking about allergic reactions to insulin that is not created in your own body. synthetic insulin...
Thanks for your post Droli. But why are people who are allergic to insulin still able to eat mushrooms, just luck?
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: Platinum]
#8748322 - 08/09/08 10:59 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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My good friend is a Type 1 diabetic and he said insulin would kill you if you put it in a non-diabetic
Wrong.
I think we've established that mushrooms do not contain insulin. If they do, then it'd have to be in a form dissimilar enough from human insulin to not affect blood sugar or cause allergies.
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: myc0man]
#8748436 - 08/09/08 11:28 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I did some googleing, and came across this, its pretty interesting.
Insulin-releasing and insulin-like activity of Agaricus campestris (mushroom) http://joe.endocrinology-journals.org/cgi/reprint/157/2/259.pdf
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Re: Allergic to Insulin, so what's the deal? [Re: blewmeanie]
#8748448 - 08/09/08 11:31 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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blewmeanie said: I did some googleing, and came across this, its pretty interesting.
Insulin-releasing and insulin-like activity of Agaricus campestris (mushroom)
http://joe.endocrinology-journals.org/cgi/reprint/157/2/259.pdf
ill hafta give that a read later. thanks.
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