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OfflineThrillz
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Ready to upgrade...
    #873826 - 09/10/02 07:00 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Ok, I have successfully used the cake method for more than 2 year.. My yields have been decent, and have had littlle problems... I think I am ready to use rye grain and a bulk substrate... What suggestions do you guys have for me?? I would like to generate a huge yield? What is the best substrate to start with? Worm casings, cow manure???


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Re: Ready to upgrade... [Re: Thrillz]
    #873868 - 09/10/02 07:26 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)



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Re: Ready to upgrade... [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #873873 - 09/10/02 07:29 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Well what bulk substrate do you suggest, or had the most success with?


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Re: Ready to upgrade... [Re: Thrillz]
    #873876 - 09/10/02 07:30 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I have had the most impressive results casing straight birdseed. I use a high millet content seed and it kicks ass.


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Re: Ready to upgrade... [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #873886 - 09/10/02 07:34 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Great, thanks alot man.. I will look into it.. First I have to select a species.. I heard lots of positive remarks about B+


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Re: Ready to upgrade... [Re: Thrillz]
    #873889 - 09/10/02 07:35 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I don't think strain matters that much.  I'm not saying there are no differences in strains, just don't worry too much about it.  They'll all give you what you're looking for... :wink: 


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Re: Ready to upgrade... [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #873900 - 09/10/02 07:38 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

If you`ve succeeded with grains, I`d suggest moving straight to bulk substrates.
In my opinion it`s far superior to any other method and easier.
But that`s my opinion, use it , don`t use it.

I`ve had the best results with a 60/40 straw/poo combo, with a layer of colonised poo on the surface to act as a contamination barrier.


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Re: Ready to upgrade... [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #873904 - 09/10/02 07:40 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

LOL! I have used bulk substrates. I think straight grain yeilds more.


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Re: Ready to upgrade... [Re: mickey_rourke]
    #873912 - 09/10/02 07:45 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I think I should start out with straight grain first... Is it nessary put a Vermiculite layer over the grain?


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Re: Ready to upgrade... [Re: Thrillz]
    #873918 - 09/10/02 07:48 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

great how mother nature gave us the power of choice :smile:
You say potatoe I say potato
no verm layer, no no



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Re: Ready to upgrade... [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #873926 - 09/10/02 07:52 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Isn't that the truth!  I've always held firm in my beliefs that there's more than one way to skin a cat!  :grin:

Peace

Edit:  To answer your question Thrillz, you can certainly use a straight verm layer.  I find straight verm layers work well but can be difficult to work with due to the amigbuity when trying to determine moisture content.  If you can, pick up a bag of Jiffy Mix (50/50+) for a great casing with no real mixing.


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Re: Ready to upgrade... [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #873933 - 09/10/02 07:54 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Should I dump the grain out of the jars into a tupperware container orsomething???? Perlite for humidification???


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Re: Ready to upgrade... [Re: Thrillz]
    #874045 - 09/10/02 08:38 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

I personally prefer roadkill's poo method over straight rye. I don't use mittet though, so i dunno how well it works. Straw is working really well to give large fruits. You need a deep tray though.


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Re: Ready to upgrade... [Re: Shaw]
    #874296 - 09/10/02 10:49 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

Thanks Shaw!

I have done straight grains and I don't like them much.

Using PF cakes or Rye Grain or birdseed to spawn horse poo has given me much larger and better fruits!

I personally like Rye Grain the best to use as a substrate.

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Re: Ready to upgrade... [Re: Thrillz]
    #874307 - 09/10/02 10:56 AM (14 years, 2 months ago)

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Ok, I have successfully used the cake method for more than 2 year..




In that case I think the next logical step would be to use some cakes to create a casing. I recommend using 50/50+. If you have luck with that then try to spawn some bulk substrate with some cakes. I had good luck doing this with worm poo/straw. Then move onto grain.


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