Home | Community | Message Board


This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract

Jump to first unread post Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | Next >
Offlinejohnnyfive
Burning withCircles!
Registered: 07/02/02
Posts: 886
Loc: Hell
Last seen: 19 years, 10 months
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #898687 - 09/22/02 12:07 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

True i do, theorize alot, but i ONLY theorize on the FUTURE.

I truely believe that our future willl answer this question! This question about whether god is just a evolution of conseniousness {sorry about spelling, no dictionary near me} or god being a collective conseniousness of all things.

Kinda like being all and one at the same time. (refering to god)

And about the searching part ... that was psyco-cybernetics!


--------------------
And the gameshow host rings the buzzer (brrnnntt) oh and now you get a face full of face!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinejayson
earthling
Male
Registered: 08/07/02
Posts: 52
Loc: Vic Australia
Last seen: 12 years, 9 months
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #898713 - 09/22/02 12:27 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

and you say you hold these ideas only as ideas but you behave as if you believe they are objective truths.

Truth what is truth. Is anything an absolute certainty.  :confused:
The only certainty is that death is a change not an end. (This a belief for me at least.)

though psychedelics do have some stimulant effects on the nervous system, it's not a matter of "harnessing more brain power"; it's the way in which your brain is functioning, due to the introduction of chemicals which change the way electrical impulses fire between synapses. experiences are different because your brain is working differently, not more

Known physical affects in the brian don't rule out that which seems to be a probability. That being that the brain works more efficiently, allowing for understanding that would otherwise be unavailable.



 

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAlbino_Jesus
Clearly Retarded
 User Gallery

Registered: 09/14/02
Posts: 1,698
Loc: Construction ahead...
Last seen: 14 years, 2 months
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: jayson]
    #898983 - 09/22/02 09:37 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

In reply to:

Known physical affects in the brian don't rule out that which seems to be a probability. That being that the brain works more efficiently, allowing for understanding that would otherwise be unavailable.








that doesn't "seem to be a probability" to me. what seems probable is that in your altered state, many thoughts seem to be "deeper understanding", but they're really just drug-induced un-reality. some thoughts might be geniunely "deep", however, some sober human beings are capable of much deeper and more "efficient" thought, than some on the hardest acid trip. drugs don't make you smart. they just change your perception and thought processes


--------------------
The only difference between the Republican and Democratic parties is the velocities with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door.
-Ralph Nader


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinejayson
earthling
Male
Registered: 08/07/02
Posts: 52
Loc: Vic Australia
Last seen: 12 years, 9 months
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #900082 - 09/22/02 07:31 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

that doesn't "seem to be a probability"

Its obvious to me that your experiences are considerably different to mine.
Perhaps your to rigid in your thinking, or perhaps you don't take enough.

Then there's always the possibility that i'm delusional.  :crazy:

but they're really just drug-induced un-reality. some thoughts might be geniunely "deep", however, some sober human beings are capable of much deeper and more "efficient" thought, than some on the hardest acid trip. drugs don't make you smart. they just change your perception and thought processes

You seem to have little respect for the experiences that you've had. Maybe this is a factor. The mushrooms are a part of greater entity, that entity is the teacher. Unless you are at least open to this as a possibility, chances are you won't experience anything that can be considered spiritual. Are you even using mushrooms, or are you using man made substances.  :frown:
 

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineAlbino_Jesus
Clearly Retarded
 User Gallery

Registered: 09/14/02
Posts: 1,698
Loc: Construction ahead...
Last seen: 14 years, 2 months
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: jayson]
    #900116 - 09/22/02 07:45 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

I've used mushrooms. I came to them with no expectations
the "deep" experiences I've had with them have been based on philosophical/scientific/self-analytic stuff, because that's what I'm interested in anyway
people who have those experiences and interpret them as spiritual, do so because there are spiritual ideas floating around in their heads anyway
and the fact that even people who have "spiritual" experiences can have wildly differing stories shows that there's no true inherent "wisdom" embedded in these mushrooms. what you experience depends on who you are and what you think about already


--------------------
The only difference between the Republican and Democratic parties is the velocities with which their knees hit the floor when corporations knock on their door.
-Ralph Nader


Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinejohnnyfive
Burning withCircles!
Registered: 07/02/02
Posts: 886
Loc: Hell
Last seen: 19 years, 10 months
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: Albino_Jesus]
    #903304 - 09/23/02 11:30 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

What is the difference in a vision or a halliucination?

There isn't one is just invalid!

To say that drugs will not make you smarter. Sure psychedelics won't make you textbook smarter. They make you SPIRITUALY SMARTER!!!!!!!!!!! (At least they did for me ... Can i get a second?)


--------------------
And the gameshow host rings the buzzer (brrnnntt) oh and now you get a face full of face!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleSclorch
Clyster

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/12/99
Posts: 4,805
Loc: On the Brink of Madness
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #904391 - 09/24/02 11:45 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

Sure psychedelics won't make you textbook smarter. They make you SPIRITUALY SMARTER!!!!!!!!!!!

This is bullshit... and you misspelled spiritually.
What the fuck is "spiritually smart" anyways?

As for the "textbook smarts": of course a molecule cannot impart formulaic information into your brain. I hope you don't claim that mushrooms speak to you now, as it would contradict your stance here.


--------------------
Note: In desperate need of a cure...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCleverName
the cloudsshould know meby now...

Registered: 08/26/02
Posts: 1,121
Loc: red earth painted with mi...
Last seen: 18 years, 4 months
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #904467 - 09/24/02 12:13 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

mushrooms give you a different perspective on things, and you may notice different things different. so with a little understanding i would say you realize things, not learn...


--------------------
if you can't find the truth right where you are, where else do you expect to find it?

this is the purpose

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisible1stimer
Religion=Rape
Registered: 11/18/01
Posts: 1,280
Loc: Amerika
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: CleverName]
    #905737 - 09/24/02 10:00 PM (21 years, 6 months ago)

i think what i have learned from mushrooms (and somewhat with weed) is that the universe is infinitely more complicated than we can possibly imagine. i think that there are an infinite number of realities. reality is energy and our brains are tools that interpret the energy in a certain way. so if you want to think of god as what enlightens us to reality i think that we are all gods.


--------------------
ash dingy donker mo gollyhopper patty popiton rockstop bueno mayo riggedy jig bobber johnathan pattywhacker gogboob t-shirt monkey.

There is such emotion in the distortion.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineFliquid
Back from being gone.
Male User Gallery

Registered: 03/18/02
Posts: 6,953
Loc: omotive
Last seen: 8 years, 8 months
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: ]
    #911577 - 09/27/02 03:55 AM (21 years, 6 months ago)

I love you.


--------------------
:dancing: My latest music! :yesnod:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineStrumpling
Neuronaut
Registered: 10/11/02
Posts: 7,571
Loc: Hyperspace
Last seen: 12 years, 10 months
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: Fliquid]
    #957709 - 10/13/02 06:34 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

why would somebody say "god = existence?" or "god = the 'everything'" or something like that when they know perfectly well they're simply going against all conventional definitions of the word "god" in order to make the word fit in with their own belief system.

IMO anybody who resorts to claims such as "god = existence" shouldn't be using the word "god" as that just seems to help them fit in among all the people they actually disagree with by using the same word for completely different things.

-=- Matt/Strumpling -=-
lol "god"


--------------------
Insert an "I think" mentally in front of eveything I say that seems sketchy, because I certainly don't KNOW much. Also; feel free to yell at me.
In addition: SHPONGLE

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: Strumpling]
    #958456 - 10/13/02 10:51 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

I posted a misguided reply to this thread too.

Apparently what the guy meant was that the word God holds no meaning because different people define it differently. I think...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineFliquid
Back from being gone.
Male User Gallery

Registered: 03/18/02
Posts: 6,953
Loc: omotive
Last seen: 8 years, 8 months
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: Strumpling]
    #958821 - 10/14/02 01:10 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

So the topic is still alive... ROFL  :grin: 


--------------------
:dancing: My latest music! :yesnod:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleSclorch
Clyster

Folding@home Statistics
Registered: 07/12/99
Posts: 4,805
Loc: On the Brink of Madness
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: Fliquid]
    #959173 - 10/14/02 05:43 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

*looks for kill switch*
DAMMIT!!!
grumble... grumble... battery around here somewhere... grumble....
*searching for other means...*
...
...
Fuck!!
How do you stop this fucking thing?????


--------------------
Note: In desperate need of a cure...

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Anonymous

Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: Sclorch]
    #960333 - 10/14/02 05:03 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

I have the kill switch but I need this one alive to serve as an example.

A fine illustration if ever there was one. :smile:

Doncha luv ambiguity? :wink:

Cheers,

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineCleverName
the cloudsshould know meby now...

Registered: 08/26/02
Posts: 1,121
Loc: red earth painted with mi...
Last seen: 18 years, 4 months
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: ]
    #960362 - 10/14/02 05:12 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

im wearing one white sock, and one red sock.


--------------------
if you can't find the truth right where you are, where else do you expect to find it?

this is the purpose

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinejohnnyfive
Burning withCircles!
Registered: 07/02/02
Posts: 886
Loc: Hell
Last seen: 19 years, 10 months
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: CleverName]
    #967324 - 10/16/02 09:02 PM (21 years, 5 months ago)

" Questions about psychedelics remain unanswered because our basic questions about consciousness remains unanswered " -Timothy Leary

I believe that if we ever understand consciousness then we may just figure out god, our origins, life and its purposes!


--------------------
And the gameshow host rings the buzzer (brrnnntt) oh and now you get a face full of face!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineFliquid
Back from being gone.
Male User Gallery

Registered: 03/18/02
Posts: 6,953
Loc: omotive
Last seen: 8 years, 8 months
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: Sclorch]
    #982164 - 10/22/02 06:59 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

You are such a bad person!


--------------------
:dancing: My latest music! :yesnod:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineFliquid
Back from being gone.
Male User Gallery

Registered: 03/18/02
Posts: 6,953
Loc: omotive
Last seen: 8 years, 8 months
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: johnnyfive]
    #982167 - 10/22/02 07:02 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Aha, so we are quoting people?

Here's one!

We are simply a small part of a film of slime covering a rock falling through space...and as existential as that sounds, the realization that even that is marvelous, is the important thing.

Dennis Mckenna

HAH! Right back at yah boooooooooy!!  :grin: 


--------------------
:dancing: My latest music! :yesnod:

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineGazzBut
Refraction

Registered: 10/15/02
Posts: 4,773
Loc: London UK
Last seen: 2 months, 24 days
Re: When will you all understand? There is no god! [Re: Fliquid]
    #982230 - 10/22/02 07:52 AM (21 years, 5 months ago)

Wakey! wakey! - This concept of "there is no god is nothing new"! You are talking about a bearded god in the clouds at the gates of heaven, Lost Soul is saying the word God can also be used to describe a sense of a collective intelligence and conciousness that underlies the physical universe and connects us all, animal mineral, vegtable. If you dont have any experience of this I suggest you try some stronger mushroom doses or pay more attention and stop all this ego posturing.

While were on the subject of " there is no" There is also no mushrooms,no internet and no computer that im working at now. They are all just words that describe processes and relationships that are not and will never be the words themselves. You seem to have fallen into that trap. Try reading quantum psychology by Robert Anton Wilson - It may help you out of your mire!

PEACE


--------------------
Always Smi2le

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: < Back | 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | 6 | 7 | 8 | 9 | 10 | 11 | 12 | 13 | 14 | Next >

Shop: PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   Original Sensible Seeds Autoflowering Cannabis Seeds   North Spore North Spore Mushroom Grow Kits & Cultivation Supplies   Myyco.com Golden Teacher Liquid Culture For Sale   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* Define God - For Nonbelievers
( 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 all )
Anonymous 11,435 123 05/11/03 07:03 PM
by Strumpling
* Death & Time don't exist. Where God comes from...
( 1 2 3 4 all )
Shroomalicious 9,228 69 12/18/02 06:30 PM
by Strumpling
* god...what is kaiowas 674 16 11/13/03 08:06 PM
by fireworks_god
* How many of you believe in god?
( 1 2 3 all )
Hypnotic 6,582 49 11/25/01 05:10 PM
by oneoverzero
* If we believe that we are God...
( 1 2 3 4 all )
Swami 3,520 62 02/14/03 04:06 PM
by MarkostheGnostic
* Why God doesn't reveal himself anymore...
( 1 2 3 all )
plague member 4,677 46 04/13/08 08:13 PM
by Kinetic
* What God Is
( 1 2 3 all )
Adamist 3,041 40 01/15/03 11:09 AM
by Zero7a1
* God (again) friartuck 727 3 04/03/03 04:21 PM
by friartuck

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Middleman, DividedQuantum
21,710 topic views. 0 members, 7 guests and 13 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.029 seconds spending 0.008 seconds on 15 queries.