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Droz
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The Empire.
#8716258 - 08/02/08 01:13 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Do you work for or against the American Empire?
If you work for: What do you do for society that helps it? How do you play your part?
If against it: Do you wish to have power outside of government? Create your own empire? What do you think about the American Empire?
Peace, Droz
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Annapurna1
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Re: The Empire. [Re: Droz]
#8717034 - 08/02/08 04:41 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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i dont work for the empire.. which by definition makes me against it..even though there is nothing i can actually do agains the empire...
once it comes to fruition..the neocon empire will repeat all the worst horrors of its historical precursors..but to a much greater magnitude...
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Re: The Empire. [Re: Droz]
#8717222 - 08/02/08 05:32 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Droz said: Do you work for or against the Empire?
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burgatory
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It's kind of a world wide empire, isn't it? Anything industrialised is a part of another industrialised nation. They're all doing the same thing, it's the same basic imprint wherever you go. America is certainly the hub, it creates 90% of the media.
If anything I must be against it, because I'm not a part of it.
It's really an affliction of a kind of bordem isn't it? Rather than an evil. It's a lethargy, but it has abysses either side of it, so that the commoner doesn't stray too far and reacts ridiculously to anything that does stray.
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Re: The Empire. [Re: Droz]
#8718510 - 08/03/08 01:32 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Working against it is working for it.
Some of the greatest revolutionaries were in the tyrant's pocket.
Why wait for a revolution to happen when you could stage your own and direct it?
There is no American empire.
The federal reserve is owned by Britain, which has actually always been Roman.
Seems just about every western country is actually British too.
I say FUCK WORK at all.
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Re: The Empire. [Re: Middleman]
#8718559 - 08/03/08 02:17 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Brittan, which has actually always been Roman.
That's news to me. Do go on
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Re: The Empire. [Re: Droz]
#8718739 - 08/03/08 06:10 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I am not against the American empire, but I do not work for it. I work for myself.
places like Costco are really fucking cool to have
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Re: The Empire. [Re: aDoS]
#8718774 - 08/03/08 07:04 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Empires have a habit of killing themselves with the poison they make. The faith based currency, getting everybody to spy on each other will end up killing a lot of people.
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Re: The Empire. [Re: Droz]
#8718791 - 08/03/08 07:22 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Quote:
Droz said: Do you work for or against the American Empire?
If you work for: What do you do for society that helps it? How do you play your part?
If against it: Do you wish to have power outside of government? Create your own empire? What do you think about the American Empire?
Peace, Droz
I inadvertently work for it like most of us.
I ineffectively work against it like a whiney baby.
I think the American Empire is like most culture. Unavoidable at least for the present.
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Icelander
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Quote:
Annapurna1 said: i dont work for the empire.. which by definition makes me against it..even though there is nothing i can actually do agains the empire...
once it comes to fruition..the neocon empire will repeat all the worst horrors of its historical precursors..but to a much greater magnitude...
I so love it (oh so rarely) when you stop in and spread good cheer. 
Politics is a fools game. Come over to the light deary.
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Edited by Icelander (08/03/08 07:24 AM)
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Lakefingers

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Re: The Empire. [Re: Droz]
#8718864 - 08/03/08 08:10 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Being an empire it draws our attention: the city always draws the attention of any bumpkin with a strong sense for the horizon of new ideas.
We all work for and against the American empire.
There's no way of answering your questions droz, anything to be said about them must be statements made to expand or to attack the questions, any direct answers already lie in waiting, are utter clichés.
What do you think about the American empire? What do you think about love? What do you think about life? What do you think about communism? What do you think about Oprah Winfrey?
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America is entertaining (slapstick entertainment value will lessen when George w bush gets out of the forefront), entertaining for paranoiac insights, historical revelations, insights into the nature of zeitgeists and so on.
The American model, "the American way of life", with "the ticky-tacky little houses", the teenage dating, the football team, the large family villa, the mood stabilizers, the evenings relaxing in the lawn looking at rabbits, the sitting in front of the TV watching horror and murder movies but avoiding that on the news, the America of waking up to keep another day of papers and numbers rolling with smiles glossing over anger, deep frustration powerlessness (die Ohnmacht as Germans call it), the America of finishing the news with all-too-American over-dramatic human interest stories (the America of Avon, Amway, Scientology, salesmanship, job recruiting, Christian sects, Microsoft, family i-love-you-no-matter-what-pep talks, etc etc), the America of burn-outs neglected and homeless gutter-punks squatters real-life-Big Lebowskis, the America of laughter-cadence coming from viciously detached smiles (Baudrillard said that people find Americans superficial, but they certainly have great teeth), the America of barbeque xenophobia, the America of strip bars porno "Hooters, because they really do have good food", the America of ethical, historical and geopolitical ignorance, the America of poor building standards, the America of lunatic liberalism, the America of cars and strip malls and no free forests or truly open or used parks or waterfronts, the America of manipulative "fellow men" - the men of the model [average] American that are covered up with affected smiles (sneers) and the America not of fields of grain, but the America of the prefabricated, the planned, the Platonic... Those model citizens, they're not any more or less dangerous than the model citizens from communist or fascist ways of life. The American way of life is just one model among many. It's not inherently worse or better than the others. But it certainly is fascinating, all the nuts n' bolts of it.
Seems however the empire is decaying, maybe Reagan'll be seen as the last golden age. Then again America has gotten out of crises similar to the one it's in now.
Someone could invade, model Americans would be subjugated in no time, some small suicide bombers and militants would fight it out in Montana or what have you; or China could take all its invested U$D and flush them down the toilet, giving America the harvest of what it has sown...
My friends, empires come and go, but bumpkins live for ever
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Re: The Empire. [Re: Droz]
#8719681 - 08/03/08 01:01 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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You fools need to learn the difference between empire and hegemony.
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Droz
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Re: The Empire. [Re: DieCommie]
#8719873 - 08/03/08 01:47 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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A little mental masturbation.
I was listening to a song on the radio and in my mind they were talking about "build your empire" To me i sorta envision being in the presidents position holding power and doing what i need to do to keep America "alive".
My own civilization. Kinda like playing Civilization on the puter.
Fun Stuff!
Peace, Droz
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zouden
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Re: The Empire. [Re: Droz]
#8720209 - 08/03/08 03:40 PM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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Whenever I play Civ and choose random opponents I always end up against the Americans. 6 opponents out of 30 and I always get the Americans. Conspiracy??
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DieCommie


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Re: The Empire. [Re: zouden]
#8722648 - 08/04/08 02:40 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I usually go for the Romans. Augustus w/Praetorian rush ftw.
I must admit, Im a pretty good Civ player. I have invested many hours into each release, starting from number one. All the expansions, and even the spin-offs like alpha centurai. Time well spent... (at least its better than WOW)
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zouden
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Re: The Empire. [Re: DieCommie]
#8722745 - 08/04/08 03:28 AM (15 years, 6 months ago) |
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I got my interest in history from Civ. Or at least, I learnt a lot from it.
Before Wikipedia... there was Civilopedia!
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