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Re: panaeolus subbalteatus in the garden

#87022 - 07/28/00 01:11 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

that shit happens to me all the time with pan subbs

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Re: panaeolus subbalteatus in the garden

#87024 - 07/28/00 01:22 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

I find that interesting.

I have watched Panaeolus subbal;teatus come up and stay in the gardens for at least a week to ten days.

ANd I have picked many of these mushrooms in one location where they were of all sizes and ages.

And I have never seen slugs eating on Panaeolus or Copelandia which I have picked humongous amounts.

Mjshroomer

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Re: panaeolus subbalteatus in the garden

#87025 - 07/28/00 10:56 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

mj...there were just 4 in a huge clay-pot with old compost...one was opened (print) the others i wanted to harvest the next day...and just 1 cm of the stems were left...slimy silvery tracks showed me the terrorists...hope my outdoorpatches survive this year...

BiO

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Re: panaeolus subbalteatus in the garden

#87026 - 07/29/00 05:55 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

BIO, you really want to eat those things? They grow in my compost pile every year like weeds. Sure, you can get a low-grade spin off 'em, I just don't think they're worth eating. Always got bad stomachaches off of 'em and had to consume a bunch of them to trip at all. Maybe the strain I get is especially weak, but I gave up on them.

Has anyone had positive results from these things?

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Re: panaeolus subbalteatus in the garden

#87027 - 07/29/00 10:50 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

I have eaten this species at least more than two dozen times since 1974. I have never had any stomach problems and the only person who repoorted that they cause an upset stomach was Andrew Weil in the books mushrooms I II and III in The Marriage of the Sun and The Moon.

Then Paul Stamets mentioned a slight toxicity in his book.

And as far as dosage goes, they are just as potent by weight as Psilocybe cubensis. One fresh ounce or more or from 3 to 5 grams of dried material. This could be one giant mushroom or from 5 to twenty five or more small mushrooms.

mjshropomer

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Re: panaeolus subbalteatus in the garden

#87028 - 07/30/00 01:09 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Well, like I said, the ones in my compost piles are definitely P. subalteous, they definitely will make you trip, but are definitely weak. They may be an extremely weak strain, for all I know (and, of course, just my luck!)

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Re: panaeolus subbalteatus in the garden

#87029 - 07/31/00 02:41 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

we`ll see soon ....the spores germinated after 48 hours (5mm dia.)......really rapid, like most of the panaeolus...

BiO.

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Re: panaeolus subbalteatus in the garden

#87030 - 08/02/00 06:04 PM (22 years, 7 months ago)

Hi, I would like to point out that panaeolus subbalteatus is just as potent as Psilocybe cubensis byu both fresh and driy weight.

There is a slight difference in some of the effects in the high while on P. subbalteatus. Like liberty caps I have gotten very silly and giggly and many things around me were of the nature of a Roger Rabbit movie.

I felt that i had stepped into a portal in time to another dimension where eveyone was happy.

Pauls comments about a slight downfall to this species came from an article by Andrew Weil who complained that someone experienced a slight discomfort to the stomach while on the shrooms.

I have eaten them at least two dozen times in 26 years and I never had a bad experience.

Mjshroomer

but what do I know?

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Re: panaeolus subbalteatus in the garden

#87031 - 08/06/00 05:37 AM (22 years, 7 months ago)

thanx MJ.....i like them too....i never had any discomfort...also they are said to contain serotonine.......mycelium develops great and im gonna make some old dung/potting soil spawns today...

BiO.

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