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 wang_chung00
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 My pedros are sick, pics included 
#8692844 - 07/28/08 03:28 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ive had these for a little over a year now and they were healthy for most of that time. After spending the winter inside they developed spots around the areoles and then i noticed a discoloration at and below the soil line. They are not soft and mushy but growth has pretty much stopped while my other pedros are growing at a nice rate. Any ideas as to what i can do to save these guys?
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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: My pedros are sick, pics included [Re: wang_chung00]
#8692871 - 07/28/08 03:39 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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they look ok to me 
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Re: My pedros are sick, pics included [Re: wang_chung00]
#8693027 - 07/28/08 04:16 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Below the soil there´s no light. Hence there´s no green, no clorophyll needed there.
FH
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wang_chung00
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Re: My pedros are sick, pics included [Re: felixhigh]
#8693165 - 07/28/08 04:51 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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its hard to see in the picture but there are orangeish spots around most of the areoles one one side, could this be sun burn? The reason i suspected a problem was they lost a lot of their deep green color and stopped growing. I got these from royer last may and they looked like top quality specimen grade cacti. If those spots are nothing serious then i'm just over reacting, I hate to lose plants when it could have been prevented. Thats for the responses:)
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Dr. uarewotueat
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Re: My pedros are sick, pics included [Re: wang_chung00]
#8693175 - 07/28/08 04:53 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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it's not sunburn...
ferts?
stick them babies in some fresh soil and i bet they perk up...
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satyr
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Did you get them as unrooted cuttings? The yellow below the soil line is normal, if they were taken from cuttings it would have taken a while for them to become yellow, making you think something was wrong. I thought the same thing about my pedros.
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wang_chung00
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Re: My pedros are sick, pics included [Re: satyr]
#8693286 - 07/28/08 05:19 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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yeah they were unrooted cuttings, the yellowing no longer worries me but the spots still do. They have only been fertilized once and it was after the spots appeared i fed them with tetracycle liquid worm poop. I'm going to repot them but I'm having the hardest time finding certified organic soil anywhere. Fox farm simply dosn't exist in NJ
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Re: My pedros are sick, pics included [Re: wang_chung00]
#8693323 - 07/28/08 05:26 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I wouldnt be too concerned about the spots, as long as they are not mushy and soft.
Make your own organic soil.
Just dont add chemical ferts
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Re: My pedros are sick, pics included [Re: wang_chung00]
#8693367 - 07/28/08 05:38 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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thanks satyr. I actually do make my own soil but I just transplanted a dozen tomato plants into 5 gal. buckets so now i'm completly out of good dirt, I used up all my compost and pre-cleaned top soil. Im ready to just give in and buy a few bags until more compost is ready.
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Re: My pedros are sick, pics included [Re: wang_chung00]
#8693393 - 07/28/08 05:46 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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It wouldnt hurt, depending on your motives.
People consume foods grown in synthetic, chemical ridden soil everyday, a little in your pedros substrate wouldnt hurt them or you.
Do you have a home depot or lowes? If you do,Miracle Grow has an organic potting soil that is excellent, and they should carry it.
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Re: My pedros are sick, pics included [Re: satyr]
#8695272 - 07/28/08 11:17 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yeah big box stores are everywhere where i live (nj). I have seen the miracle grow "organic" soil but i dont really trust that claim too much, I know it has a wetting agent in it and I remember seeing other questionable stuff after reading the label. But the search for fox farm soil led me to finding a hydro shop that i had no idea existed about 30 min. from where i live. Do you use the miracle grow organic? I'll give it a shot if its ok, its a lot cheaper than fox farm.
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Re: My pedros are sick, pics included [Re: wang_chung00]
#8695343 - 07/28/08 11:33 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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One of my pedros has similar problems to yours, it has small orange spots/lumps but i think they are just scars - im not worried about them. It is yellow and growing really slow but is showing no sign of rot - it has plenty of natural ferts (new potting mix and sheep 'pellets'. Its very weird.
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Re: My pedros are sick, pics included [Re: scruffymafia]
#8695474 - 07/29/08 12:12 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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They're fine, just put em back in the dirt and let em do their thing.
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satyr
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Re: My pedros are sick, pics included [Re: wang_chung00]
#8696040 - 07/29/08 05:29 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
wang_chung00 said:
Yeah big box stores are everywhere where i live (nj). I have seen the miracle grow "organic" soil but i dont really trust that claim too much, I know it has a wetting agent in it and I remember seeing other questionable stuff after reading the label. But the search for fox farm soil led me to finding a hydro shop that i had no idea existed about 30 min. from where i live. Do you use the miracle grow organic? I'll give it a shot if its ok, its a lot cheaper than fox farm.
I mostly prefer to make my own soil, but yes, Ive used the miracle grow organic on numerous occasions. My Salvias are thriving in it.
And I also did some research a while back on the wetting agent. Apparently, it is something derived from the yucca plant, so it is organic.
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