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OfflineBennyProfane
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Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place
    #8691302 - 07/28/08 04:45 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I am planning on doing a full on bleach bomb on my apartment with 1:10 bleach solution.  Anyone done this before with some advice?
When I was an uber-newbie (not just a newbie as I am now) I had a dozen contaminated BRF cakes that I straight up pounded out into a garbage can in my lil 1 bedroom apartment and then left them chilling there for a few days (BAD,BAD,BAD i know better now).
My sterility procedures are MUCH better now but I know they can still be improved but every WBS jar I do is infested with cobweb and trich. 
How do I do a proper bleach bomb?  I will strip my place bare to the walls before I spray every surface down with the bleach solution but won't I bring contams back in when I bring my shit back in?  Do I really have to clean every page of every book i own or the case of every dvd?
Any advice is helpful.  I live in an old dirty ghetto apartment and leaving those contaminated BRF cakes around makes me think for sure I my contam problems go far beyond my innocuation procedures.


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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: BennyProfane]
    #8691364 - 07/28/08 06:23 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

What are you doing to the WBS jars before you inoculate them? Your procedure may be your problem. If not, I would still think that building a little box that you could work in and sterilize would be less work than trying to sanitize your entire apartment.


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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: Phraggle]
    #8691370 - 07/28/08 06:26 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

just use a still air glovebox away from any possable source of mold. always use a glove box for knocking up the jars. if you use flamable cleaners in the glovebox, make sure to flame the needle outside. . a glovebox should greatly reduce your contam rate.


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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: BennyProfane]
    #8691381 - 07/28/08 06:38 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I had to do this to my place.Even removed the carpet. I had more colors of contam's growing.This has stopped my problem with contam's. I also built a flowhood.

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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: seven]
    #8691382 - 07/28/08 06:40 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

hell i dont even do that. just flame the needle use some alcohol on the needle leave the needle in the alcohol soaked rag. whip down the top of the jar with alcohol then shoot up some spores. after that in knock up my jars, but its really that easy skipping the shoot up part. if you have to use bleach then just spray down your work area.

Mix bleach with water at a ratio of 1 part bleach per 200 parts water.
that's about 1.25 tablespoons per gallon. a little lysol will help too.

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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: smokedout420]
    #8691397 - 07/28/08 06:55 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

i would use a ten percent bleech salution. and use a glovebox. i dont think the point is to see how much we can get away with. of course some things work for some. but i always have to do things as well as i can. no half-assing.  some do get away with less precautions. but remember if you have had contams already that means the spores are present. just by growing and getting a contam you are adding to this. so more precautions should be taken over time. i guess i just think its good to be carefull.


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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: seven]
    #8691406 - 07/28/08 07:04 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

damn i must get away with alot then i've even done g2g in a bathroom no glove box open air. the trick to this is turn off heat or cool source 1 hr b4 working and clean the bathroom. just clean like a ocd mother and you'll be good.

hell when i dont feel like doing all of that i use a shumvbox.


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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: smokedout420]
    #8691427 - 07/28/08 07:18 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I have injected 12 pint jars and 12 quart jars as well as my LC jars and I am a noob and have not gotten a contam yet..  All I do is go into my bathroom and clean the counter with 1:4 bleach/water..  Then spray the entire bathroom with oust/lysol...  Then walk out and close the door and let it sit for 10 minutes then enter my work space very quickly shutting the door behind me so I don't let in to much outside air...

My technique works..  So far so good..

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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: Damion5050]
    #8691475 - 07/28/08 07:45 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I just started too I knocked up 20 brf jars pot sterilized not pressure cooked in a simple rubermaid glove box all 20 fully colonized no contams


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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: aaronemerritt]
    #8691491 - 07/28/08 07:53 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

OUST!!! Turn the A/C on and spray the shit out of your house. I go through a shit load of OUST! It's great shit, and it smells good.


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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: robanero]
    #8691513 - 07/28/08 08:03 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

read the PM homie.


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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: HazeyRoms]
    #8691792 - 07/28/08 10:11 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I'm gonna have to agree with everyone who said that you need a good glovebox :yesnod:

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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: Phraggle]
    #8695809 - 07/29/08 02:27 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

Phraggle said:
What are you doing to the WBS jars before you inoculate them? Your procedure may be your problem. If not, I would still think that building a little box that you could work in and sterilize would be less work than trying to sanitize your entire apartment.




I use a glovebox albeit a pretty ghetto one.  Just a rubbermaid container with some misshapen circles cut out of it.  I guess I was being a bit hasty when I put up that post.  I just checked my latest set of contaminated jars a bit more closely and only 1 of 4 has trich so I am doing better.  I am 99% sure this is cobweb, not myc I am growing though.  I'll borrow my buddies digi and post pics in the next few days.  The growth is very thin and looks like cotton.  It is still white not grey though.  Growing in small thin patches, not thick ropes like I should be seeing.  Sound like cobweb?


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Believe me! The secret of reaping the greatest fruitfulness and the greatest enjoyment from life is to live dangerously! - Nietzsche

Convictions are more dangerous to the truth than lies - Nietzsche

There was only one Christian, and he died on the cross for his own sins - Nietzsche

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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: BennyProfane]
    #8695816 - 07/29/08 02:31 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Cobweb grows very fast compared to mushroom mycelium. If the growth you have is growing slowly then give it time. Cobweb will cover a jar in less than 3-4 days usually. Have patience.


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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: KaptKid]
    #8695824 - 07/29/08 02:35 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Quote:

KaptKid said:
I had to do this to my place.Even removed the carpet. I had more colors of contam's growing.This has stopped my problem with contam's. I also built a flowhood.

Good Luck 


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My problem is I live in an apartment and I'm sure my landlord wouldn't be too happy with me taking out the carpet.  I would if I could.  Thinking about doing the flowhood thing, I have the cash to build it, I just need to get motivated enough to do it.


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Pity makes suffering contagious - Nietzsche

Believe me! The secret of reaping the greatest fruitfulness and the greatest enjoyment from life is to live dangerously! - Nietzsche

Convictions are more dangerous to the truth than lies - Nietzsche

There was only one Christian, and he died on the cross for his own sins - Nietzsche

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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: BlimeyGrimey]
    #8695828 - 07/29/08 02:40 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Cobweb grows very fast compared to mushroom mycelium. If the growth you have is growing slowly then give it time. Cobweb will cover a jar in less than 3-4 days usually. Have patience.




Hmmmmm.....well these jars were knocked up 4 days ago and are FAR from covered.  I have seen many jars fully covered in just a few days, thats how I knew they had cobweb.  Now I'm starting to question this latest set of jars.  It's growing slowly but it just doesn't look like myc.  The growth looks just like lil cotton balls all over the place.


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All of my posts are completely fictional.  I post info and pics stolen from other sources because I wan't to appear to be cool to others.

Pity makes suffering contagious - Nietzsche

Believe me! The secret of reaping the greatest fruitfulness and the greatest enjoyment from life is to live dangerously! - Nietzsche

Convictions are more dangerous to the truth than lies - Nietzsche

There was only one Christian, and he died on the cross for his own sins - Nietzsche

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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: BennyProfane]
    #8695839 - 07/29/08 02:46 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

sometimes a GB just dont cut it.

every nice NEW house ive lived in was at times in my life when i couldnt grow.

now that its time for me to grow again, i live in a yurt :lol:

and my GB just AINT cuttin it :lol:


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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: just me]
    #8695855 - 07/29/08 02:53 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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just me said:
sometimes a GB just dont cut it.

every nice NEW house ive lived in was at times in my life when i couldnt grow.

now that its time for me to grow again, i live in a yurt :lol:

and my GB just AINT cuttin it :lol:




I'm thinking of using some plastic drop cloths to build a lil chamber in the corner of my place.  Cheap and easy to quickly rip down if my landlord comes knocking.  I am starting to think a glovebox will not cut it for me, I have a few little things I could do to improve my prep and inoculation procedures but I know I should not be seeing a 100% contam rate.


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All of my posts are completely fictional.  I post info and pics stolen from other sources because I wan't to appear to be cool to others.

Pity makes suffering contagious - Nietzsche

Believe me! The secret of reaping the greatest fruitfulness and the greatest enjoyment from life is to live dangerously! - Nietzsche

Convictions are more dangerous to the truth than lies - Nietzsche

There was only one Christian, and he died on the cross for his own sins - Nietzsche

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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: BennyProfane]
    #8695962 - 07/29/08 03:56 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

You can construct a small room with plastic.  Get one large piece that you hang from the ceiling.  Make sure it's secure so it never falls down (fire hazzard, etc.).  Tacks in the ceiling do not cut it.  If you have opportunity to place 2X4's as frame on celing and then use this to attach the plastic to, it works well.  You can remove and replace the plastic intermittently.  Remember considerable static builds up on plastic and contaminations cummulatively adhere to it.  Lightly misting with quats can work (but not for fungal spores). If it's liquid watch out for wood surfaces (you should see my kitchen tables and chairs-argh).  Someone suggested Joust.  Lysol works wonders too, but don't inhale too much of it.
You can purchase a small unit and place it outside so the exhaust is outside and the clean air positively pressurizes the room.  Be sure to have some place where the air can minimally escape so you have positive pressure, however are not overworking the air unit.  You can also add a hood(self-made or purchased) and/or another small unit to recirculate the air.
Bleach bombing an apartment will damage the construction as well as form a deadly gas which will have to be exhausted somehow, without anyone present.  Perhaps not a very good option.
You could also investigate spawn bags with injection sites.  I have a lab, however now do alot of work in my kitchen with windows open and flies flying around, and a dog coming now and then to visit.  I utilize liquid culture in injection vials, and then store in fridge.  When required I take one out and inject into the spawn bag through injection site.  The spawn bag is sealed during sterilization and cool down.  My success rate is outstanding.
We are about to make a video showing how we can inoculate liquid culture vials and subsequently spawn bags(sealed with injection site) on a table outdoors in the middle of a field and still achieve a low contamination rate.
You can make your own injection sites out of silicon or other means(due a search).

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Re: Fuck this shit!!!! I'm bleach bombing my place [Re: happyday]
    #8695985 - 07/29/08 04:25 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I'm a firm believer in cleanliness at home. I think that the house being a rental is where your problem may arise. While you might be very clean in your methods... you never know who lived in the place before you...
When innoculating without a glovebox, sit down at a table and try not to stir up dust from the floor and surrounding area..

Or just build the glovebox!!! great investment, save you headaches for sure! peace.


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