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 PsilocybinLuvin
PsilocybinLuvin
 
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PsilocybinLuvin said:
FUCK THAT
the world would be BEAUTIFUL & NATURAL with no money
fuck money,money isnt SHIT..the paper isnt worth a damn thing
its the GOLD STOCK in some fucking bank somewhere
either way, a world of TRADE is a lot better than a world of money
leaving no JOBS, building everything for yourself
growing your own crop
stitching your own loincloth
i mean eventually,if man kind sticks around long enough..
everything will be over prised
there will be no need for money at all
& shits just gonna turn out that way anyway
and I FUCKING WISH
we could just quit the bullshit,& live it naturally now.
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Redstorm
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How would you grow crops if you don't have land?
Not everyone can learn specialized trades that can be bartered for other trades. That's why we have money, to act as sort of a middle man. It is impossible for a large population to be supported by a barter system.
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PsilocybinLuvin
PsilocybinLuvin
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 Re: Cash-less society.  [Re: Redstorm]
#8762420 - 08/12/08 11:38 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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People have as much capability to live completely on their own as animals
some are doing it right now
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Redstorm
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I would say 99% of the people do not and can not.
If they don't own land, they can't grow crops, which is necessary to survive. Where would your fresh water come from? These are things bought with money now. How would you get them in a barter system?
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PsilocybinLuvin
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Re: Cash-less society. [Re: Redstorm]
#8762454 - 08/12/08 11:46 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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fuck all systems.
living off of life
its too damn bad people have no clue of survival without money
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Redstorm
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You keep responding without any answers.
How would YOU survive without any money. Show me you've actually thought about this and aren't just saying it.
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PsilocybinLuvin
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Re: Cash-less society. [Re: Redstorm]
#8762484 - 08/12/08 11:52 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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i got the words but i cant speak
i dont want to argue anymore
so i just respond
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 badchad
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I can imagine it. I use cash less than once a month. Everything is digital for me. It makes everything so much easier.
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pothead_bob
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 Re: Cash-less society. [Re: badchad]
#8762924 - 08/12/08 01:35 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I think PsilocybinLuvin is talking about no money at all. Digital money is still money. At this point of the discussion, the debate is over a monetary system or a barter system.
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which is itself based upon the mathematical
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Speak well of your enemies. After all, you made them.
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PsilocybinLuvin
PsilocybinLuvin
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i wasnt exactly talkin the exact rules of a barter system either
no getting paid in valuables
but if a neighbor that has an item that you need
& you have an item that theyd need
you should surely freely trade
but as for survival each person should build their own house
& grow their own crop
& there is enough land!
way enough land
im sure populations have grown tons because of modern technology that money has been running
survival of the fittest would be put into place
and fit will remain
and it will be natural
and more peaceful than this moment in time
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WhiskeyClone
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Quote:
PsilocybinLuvin said:
i wasnt exactly talkin the exact rules of a barter system either
no getting paid in valuables
but if a neighbor that has an item that you need
& you have an item that theyd need
you should surely freely trade
but as for survival each person should build their own house
& grow their own crop
& there is enough land!
way enough land
im sure populations have grown tons because of modern technology that money has been running
survival of the fittest would be put into place
and fit will remain
and it will be natural
and more peaceful than this moment in time
The kinds of uncivilized societies you are talking about historically provided short and brutal lives for people. Currency is one of many innovations that has improved quality of life across the board. By all accounts life was not better before there was money.
It is a misconception that the world is less peaceful today than it has been in the past, and I think it's mainly because televisions deliver concentrated violence and unrest directly into our living rooms. The news we receive is disproportionately bad, and it creates legions of jaded cynics who think they know exactly what's happening around the world. Nobody does; the world is so vast, even the most well-traveled and well-read person sees only a tiny bit of the big picture, and 99% of that is composed of information that is at best second-hand.
There are tons of problems in society, there have always been, and money is involved in some of them, yes. People fight over anything of value. It's not the things that cause the problems, it is human behavior, our very survival-of-the-fittest nature that causes greed and exploitation. Getting rid of money will not change that part of humanity.
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PsilocybinLuvin
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Re: Cash-less society. [Re: Helltick]
#8763935 - 08/12/08 05:18 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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wrong, i dont watch tv
currency has only made the greed in people stronger
i never said taking away currency would take away the greed
i said that the money is worthless
living naturally or not, people will always be shitty
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WhiskeyClone
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Whatever works for you. Blame and cynicism never did a thing for me, I wish I hadn't wasted so much time on them.
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Welcome evermore to gods and men is the self-helping man. For him all doors are flung wide: him all tongues greet, all honors crown, all eyes follow with desire. Our love goes out to him and embraces him, because he did not need it.
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pothead_bob
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living naturally or not, people will always be shitty
This is true, but it's because it's animal nature. All creatures will strive to be dominant. That's just survival instinct. I think it's our (humans') higher complexity of thought and our complex society that enables us to be capable of doing more good. Unfortuneatly, it also makes us capable of doing exreme amounts of bad. Hopefully, we can move to a more compassionate civilization and shake off some of our animal instincts that are no longer necessary.
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upon mathematics or upon some other knowledge
which is itself based upon the mathematical
sciences. -Leonardo da Vinci (1425-1519)
Speak well of your enemies. After all, you made them.
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Redstorm
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currency has only made the greed in people stronger
Prove it.
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PsilocybinLuvin
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Re: Cash-less society. [Re: Redstorm]
#8764677 - 08/12/08 07:31 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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no.
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DieCommie
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Redstorm wins the debate.
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PsilocybinLuvin
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Re: Cash-less society. [Re: DieCommie]
#8764899 - 08/12/08 08:05 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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fine by me
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DieCommie
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ya win some, ya lose some 
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