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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: Krackers]
    #8688154 - 07/27/08 12:26 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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lol
everyone is just fucking your tree
id say too soon to chuck anything bud,
just keep foil off, put in a isolated clean (!) place without air currants and LEAVE THEM ALONE for at least a week

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Someone actually said: "some 1 told me to try long brown rice and water and vermiculite and pressure cook for 1 hour i did but nothing happen that is y was wonting to no if i need spores ""

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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: Krackers]
    #8688157 - 07/27/08 12:27 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Yea, but if it's likely i just contaminated all of the jars i'd rather just start over and have a better shot.

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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: stainer711]
    #8688162 - 07/27/08 12:29 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

so those dont have lids? Just a foil top?


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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: beengonetoolong]
    #8688213 - 07/27/08 12:44 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

you can't reuse anything in the case they are contaminated and you wouldn't want to try anyway.

Except of course for the jars or glasses with foil lids or whatever your using (eyesight failing), but cmon only six how cheap are those, go secure yourself another case,
punch 4 holes in the lids with a small nail n hammer and if your really trying to get growing rebatch and good luck.

But yeah i'd still wait to toss those cause you never know ( i sure don't, i havn't seen the cough*adjustments you've described)

Verm is inorganic? and even unbaked if dry prob has little contams (but hey this is no mycologist talking) and mycellium can be resiliant and all that jazz, so just wait a few and see what comes, you spent enough on the syringes im sure, and decontamin' be easy with lysol brudda

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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: beengonetoolong]
    #8688214 - 07/27/08 12:45 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Anyone know if I seriously messed up by adding the dry vermiculite? The tin foil tops are currently off. Should I put them back on soon?

Edited by stainer711 (07/27/08 12:50 PM)

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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: Krackers]
    #8688226 - 07/27/08 12:48 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

quit messin with them


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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: just me]
    #8688241 - 07/27/08 12:55 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

ok

im a newb myself

but please, for the sake of my sanity, just put the foil back on, after a quick disinfect spray, and leave it be for a week.
At that time go back to them and look for growth, if all seems normal you might consider putting a FEW little holes or lossening the foil-being-used-as-lids if stalling occurs later down the line (week 2.5 ish)

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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: stainer711]
    #8688244 - 07/27/08 12:56 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

No one is messing with him as far as I see.

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Anyone know if I seriously messed up by adding the dry vermiculite? The tin foil tops are currently off. Should I put them back on soon?




The dry verm should have been added when you made the jars, not after inoculation.

You should make yourself some lids with 4 holes drilled/punched in them next time.

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At that time go back to them and look for growth, if all seems normal you might consider putting a FEW little holes or lossening the foil-being-used-as-lids if stalling occurs later down the line (week 2.5 ish)






The jars need Gas Exchange from now on out. Lack of Gas Exchange is what will stall or completely stop the growth.

Just let the jars be and see what happens. The worst that could happen is contams which would yield you nothing.

On the other hand, you could throw them out which would yield you nothing.

Which one would you choose?

Good Luck


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Someone actually said: "some 1 told me to try long brown rice and water and vermiculite and pressure cook for 1 hour i did but nothing happen that is y was wonting to no if i need spores ""

Edited by psylopsycho (07/27/08 12:58 PM)

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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: just me]
    #8688246 - 07/27/08 12:57 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

If you haven't done so already, you should watch these videos on the PF tek; they'll answer many of the questions that you have, and show you how to do it properly.

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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: VV Cephei]
    #8688254 - 07/27/08 01:03 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

The pf tek doesn't say anything about gas exchange. I already added a layer of dry vermiculite to begin with. The level of soil went down, though, and I thought I would add some more. I have six small garbage cans, and i'm thinking about doubling up the jars in each and making a whole new batch so that i'm guaranteed at least some success.

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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: stainer711]
    #8688279 - 07/27/08 01:14 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Read This  http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php?fpart=all&Board=Forum2&Number=1226637

If you have more Solution, and more ingredients I would suggest watching RR's videos found HERE and follow this tek step by step.

As far as 15cc's for 6 jars, the worst that could happen there is the moisture content is thrown way off and they will not do what you are hoping for or will take a very long time to do it. Give em a shot though.

And WATCH THOSE VIDEOS!!!!!!!!


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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: psylopsycho]
    #8688342 - 07/27/08 01:28 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

anyone have a clue as to what the unsterile vermiculite might do?

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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: stainer711]
    #8688369 - 07/27/08 01:35 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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anyone have a clue as to what the unsterile vermiculite might do?




If you don,t have any lid other than the tin foil... then took the foil off to add dry verm that isn't sterile then all of your jars will be no good.  Sorry man. 

Next time, 4 hooles in the lid with poly fill in the holes and then foil for boiling/pc'ing.  You could also leave the hole open.  Then take foil off and let them do their thing.  The more you mess with them, the more you will set them back.

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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: WhiteBunny]
    #8688401 - 07/27/08 01:43 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Everyone makes mistakes! The other day I was steam sterilizing 7 jars on the stove, came to my room, got lost on the shroomery for a couple hours and had completely forgotten about them. The water had all evaporated and it was just cooking the glass! needless to say all the jars were cracked and completely fucked!

Patience is the name of the game with these little guys, let them be for a while. The more you mess with them the more there's a chance they'll be screwed


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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: letsdothis]
    #8689000 - 07/27/08 04:20 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

well, i just put another six jars in the PC. I'm just going to use the aluminum foil without the metal lids. I'm following the tek to the T this time. So far everything is going perfect. As I said earlier, I had some dry verm in the jars when I put some more in, so who knows, it might work out for them. As for the new six, I'm very confident that these will do well. If not I get one more chance with one more spore syringe. I'm following a different tek next time if none of my 12 specimens yield.

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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: stainer711]
    #8689061 - 07/27/08 04:37 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

All teks that use BRF cakes are mostly the same with slight variations.

If you don't succeed, you need to work on your sterile techniques.

If you fail at one PF tek, you most likely will fail at another if you can't correct your issues you are having prior to birthing your cakes.

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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: psylopsycho]
    #8689070 - 07/27/08 04:40 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks, man. I'm being very careful. No mold yet! (LOL)

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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: stainer711]
    #8689164 - 07/27/08 05:02 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Also, in the PC the jars only have the 3 layers of tin foil and nothing else between the verm and the steam. Is this enough to keep water out of the jars? On the vid I just watched it said not to let the water touch the jars. Well, the water level is a half inch up the base of the jars. Nothing I can do about it now. :frown: I wish that would have been written on the tek. I don't have the jars touching the bottom of the pot, though, so that's good.

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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: stainer711]
    #8689215 - 07/27/08 05:13 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

You will be fine.


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Re: I used 1 and a half syringes on six jars. Should I worry? [Re: psylopsycho]
    #8689739 - 07/27/08 07:27 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Why wouldn't you use the lids?


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