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Re: Stupid pigs [Re: Coaster]
    #8683104 - 07/26/08 04:32 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

some dont have such a happy ending, spent 8 months waiting for
trial because I assaulted an off duty cop working security at a
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Re: Stupid pigs [Re: Psy Baba]
    #8683355 - 07/26/08 08:16 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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DuNeRaVeR said:
I had nothing to worry about, nothing in my car.




Than you should have let him search your car so you could have wasted his time.


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Re: Stupid pigs [Re: blewmeanie]
    #8686733 - 07/27/08 12:45 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Good job man! Exercising your fucking rights!

But honestly you shouldn't have even answered any of his bullshit questions. The only thing you are obligated to tell a cop is your name and address, beyond that it's none of your fucking business and we also have another right... the right to remain silent!

"so where you going tonight, where you coming from?"

"so why did you pull me over?"

"I asked you a question."

"yeah, but I'm not obligated to answer yours. You're obligated to answer mine. So... am I free to go?"




Yeah, being passive aggressive is a great way to deal with a control freak.:rolleyes:

Honestly, just answer their questions, and if at any point they do anything that is inappropriate, get their badge number and report them. Acting like a dick isn't going to get you anywhere.




So you're saying that I shouldn't exercise my rights because the cops don't like it and will try to hassle me?

Exercising your rights is not being a dick or being passive aggressive. True, control freaks don't like it when you use your power. But the point is that we have to REMIND them that we DO in fact have power. Otherwise we end up with tyranny.

The only thing I'm obligated to tell a cop is my name an address. I'm not obligated to give them ID (unless driving a vehicle), or tell them where I've been or where I'm going, or incriminate myself by answering any of their questions.


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Re: Stupid pigs [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #8686748 - 07/27/08 12:51 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I suggest you watch the video in this thread from the Security & Safety forum.

http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Cat/0/Number/8632327/an/0/page/0

It's a law professor and a cop explaining why you should NEVER talk to cops under ANY circumstances.


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Re: Stupid pigs [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #8686759 - 07/27/08 12:56 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Yeah, I think I've seen that one. Is it the "Am I under arrest or am I free to go?" video?

That question was something the proff stressed.


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Re: Stupid pigs [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #8686769 - 07/27/08 12:58 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
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blewmeanie said:
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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
Good job man! Exercising your fucking rights!

But honestly you shouldn't have even answered any of his bullshit questions. The only thing you are obligated to tell a cop is your name and address, beyond that it's none of your fucking business and we also have another right... the right to remain silent!

"so where you going tonight, where you coming from?"

"so why did you pull me over?"

"I asked you a question."

"yeah, but I'm not obligated to answer yours. You're obligated to answer mine. So... am I free to go?"




Yeah, being passive aggressive is a great way to deal with a control freak.:rolleyes:

Honestly, just answer their questions, and if at any point they do anything that is inappropriate, get their badge number and report them. Acting like a dick isn't going to get you anywhere.




So you're saying that I shouldn't exercise my rights because the cops don't like it and will try to hassle me?

Exercising your rights is not being a dick or being passive aggressive. True, control freaks don't like it when you use your power. But the point is that we have to REMIND them that we DO in fact have power. Otherwise we end up with tyranny.

The only thing I'm obligated to tell a cop is my name an address. I'm not obligated to give them ID (unless driving a vehicle), or tell them where I've been or where I'm going, or incriminate myself by answering any of their questions.



Meeting an asshole head on isnt always the best strategy. It certainly doesnt do anything to either correct their behavior/attitude, or remove them from their position. However remaining calm, and polite and then following up on the matter with his supervisor does. I certainly wouldnt let him search your car, I,m not suggesting anyone give up their rights for even a second, I'm merely suggesting that there are better, ways of dealing with a douche bag cop.

You are not legally obligated to answer any questions, but there are a ton of bullshit laws that they can give you a ticket for. Be polite like you would (hopefully) with anyone else, just because you are not obligated to answer his questions doesnt mean he cant ask them.

My best friend is a cop, I'm speaking from experience.

(this goes to anyone)
Remember these words.....
"I do not consent to a search I am free to go"


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Re: Stupid pigs [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8686789 - 07/27/08 01:04 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Hey Prisoner, how'd that trial turn out?


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Re: Stupid pigs [Re: never.never.land]
    #8686812 - 07/27/08 01:12 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

Good video.  Watching it right now.


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Re: Stupid pigs [Re: Helixx]
    #8686818 - 07/27/08 01:15 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

I'm not saying you shouldn't be polite... but letting a cop know that you know your rights is like telling a girl you've cheated on her. No matter how nicely you say it it's gonna piss them off.


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Re: Stupid pigs [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
    #8686911 - 07/27/08 01:54 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Nunbuh_Chrubble said:
I'm not saying you shouldn't be polite... but letting a cop know that you know your rights is like telling a girl you've cheated on her. No matter how nicely you say it it's gonna piss them off.



An asshole is going to be an asshole regardless of your actions. Verbally Tai Chi the motherfucker, and move on with your day.

Its not that all cops are assholes, its just that allot of assholes want to be cops. Someone like is looking to produce a negative reaction in you just to give him an excuse to abuse his position. Dont play their game.


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Re: Stupid pigs [Re: never.never.land]
    #8687574 - 07/27/08 08:58 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

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Hey Prisoner, how'd that trial turn out?




didnt go to trial, charges were dropped, the officer was in the
process of pulling his club and I reacted to a threat of
grievous bodily harm, the whole incident started over a
microscope in my back seat, cop insisted it was stolen from the
hospital, I said he needed to bring me the serial numbers of the
stolen microscopes and we can make the comparison, it escalated
when he didnt get his way


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