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InvisibleThe_Clash_UK
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What to tell yourself if going into bad trip?
    #868316 - 09/07/02 06:20 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

If your tripping and then you feel as though things rnt going as youd like them, and things are a bit intence, what do you tell yourself?

I read somones story about them tripping in their bed and saying to themselves "its just the drug fucking with my head".
well I said that to myself on LSD too.

I also try and thing about how good ive felt on pills and other drugs before, and how that is the way to feel.


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: The_Clash_UK]
    #868782 - 09/07/02 11:58 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I usually start with "Oh shit! Dear God please get me out of this, I promise never to do another drug so long as I live."

Then I follow with puppy whimpering as I beg," Make it stop! Please make it stop. Christ what have I done? I am so totally fucked!"

Something like that.


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: The_Clash_UK]
    #868797 - 09/07/02 12:12 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I say not a fuckin thing. If i sense danger, i can stop my thought`s to a dribble or control em to put my mind into focus again.  :smile:
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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: The_Clash_UK]
    #869064 - 09/07/02 03:40 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

If you feel things are getting out of control, pause and focus on your breathing, lie down and do this. It might be a bit harder to do in the midst of a trip from Hell, but if it's only the early stages of a freak out, I think it could help. I've managed to avoid what could have been a messy end to my trip by remembering to breathe, and I lay down and focused on it completly. Sure enough the bad times passed.


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: Sheepish]
    #869158 - 09/07/02 04:40 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Sounds like sheepish knows what hes doin.


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: Poopman]
    #870606 - 09/08/02 10:03 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Your not supposed to think about having a bad trip.
If your trying to talk yourself out of a bad trip, then your thinking about it right?
It's kind of a catch-22.

I always think about what Jim Morrison said in the movie...
something about kissing the serpent...
if it senses fear, it devours you...
ya gotta ride it out... 

Just open your eyes real wide, take a couple deep breaths and go crazy in a green day sort of way  :laugh:

Ask yourself what your afraid of?  :confused:
Is it a thought? If so, how feasible is that thought?  :shocked:
What's in your environment that brought that thought on? 
If it's real bad, you'll end up clinging to something that is an anchor to you until the trip is over...not good...      If your freakin out real bad then you probably shouldn't be experimenting...








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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: ricyjo]
    #871492 - 09/09/02 10:48 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

in case of bad trip, just breathe!


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: Swami]
    #872079 - 09/09/02 09:57 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Then you have to claw at your hair and eyeballs and roll around screaming.


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: The_Clash_UK]
    #872155 - 09/09/02 10:29 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I think it's good to tell yourself the thruth, something like:
Holy shit what the hell is happening, I'm probably picking up bad vibes and start to feel bad for some reason ...
there's nothing really i can do than let it happen and ride it out ... TRY to accept it try to think of something completely different change the stuff you're doing, get someone to talk to or go away from the place you're in ...
Put on some music and don't do anything at all (try not to think about things...)
Saying stuff to yourself like "it'll be over in a couple of hours" i think will be pretty meaningless because when you're gonna have a bad trip those couple of hours don't really mean anything anymore... it's best to just keep relax and change the stuff around you... something like turning of the tv can already be a change! Try to do something else whatever it is and don't try to care too much ....

It all seems very easy but when beginning to have a bad trip I think there isn't VERY much you can do other than to ride it out ... but changing stuff around you can certainly be a good thing to do!

Also in a couple of hours it WILL be over no matter in what strange miserable hell you'll have been during the trip and when the trip ends it'll be an amazing relief ... and you probably won't want to trade the experience for a good one it's something very very personnal a trip and for sure a bad one ... those well... powerful isn't the word ... it's well you may find out one day...
Remember that lot's of people have had bad experiences while tripping and it's perfectly normal that one day you'll experience a bad trip but afterwards it isn't as bad at all :smile: it'll be a GODDAMN AMAZING experience ... HELL yeah
Don't care so much about it cause you'll be worrying for nothing what happens happens and you'll make it through the trip good or bad after a couple of hours it'll all be over...

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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: Swami]
    #872239 - 09/09/02 11:12 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Don't tell yourself anything. Don't fight it, just accept everything as it is, and let go of your attatchments and desires.


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: Earth_Droid]
    #872346 - 09/09/02 12:02 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

People who have bad trips are the same people who take it WAY too seriously. That is not to say that shrooms should be taken lightly, but the actual trip, and what happens during the trip should.

For instance, if you're having a bad trip and you think you see spiders (just using for an example) instead of freaking out and saying to yourself "holy crap there's spiders everywhere oh my god!" rather you calm your mind, and take a zen-like approach: "oh, so now I'm visualizing spiders, I wonder why that is. What could this mean?"

Once you learn how to think like that you can control your bad trips very easily. It's kind of fun to slip from good to bad trip over and over again..

..just be prepared and it can be a blast! Gee, that sounds familiar :P


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: Swami]
    #872375 - 09/09/02 12:16 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Just remember:

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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #872397 - 09/09/02 12:28 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Just go someplace else. The vibes from certian places can give you a bad trip. Just dont go outside, that's where the deamons are. Or you can invite them inside and play poker or something. :grin: 


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: The_Clash_UK]
    #872591 - 09/09/02 02:38 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

At first it almost pisses me off that I'm about to have a bummer, at least for awhile.

Otherwise, I tell myself, 'Sit back, relax, and tough it through.'

I don't have any more insanity trips. I had one when I first got started with psychedelics, since then I have never had a fear of reality loss and nearly all my trips now are perfect. The odd bad one I used to have was a set/setting thing.


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: Zahid]
    #872815 - 09/09/02 04:17 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

if i start to wig too hard i tell myself, "ok mitchy boy, run!"
and i run and run and run, THAT way i have a good chance of staying out of trouble thees no crime against running,
about the only thing that scares me while tripping is getting caught.
i would mind getting stuck, its not scary, its dealing with loss thats scary, and what have we really got to lose? :smile:


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: The_Clash_UK]
    #873080 - 09/09/02 06:38 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

People have bad trips for different reasons... but most of the time its because your in the wrong atmosphere or wrong state of mind. Somtimes the best way to get out of a bad trip is to change the mood or atmosphere. Here are some things that i do when i feel a bad trip coming on. So far ever since i have taken these initiatives i have been able to completley turn my trip around to a good experiance.

1. Change the music
2. Change the lighting
3. Take a piss
4. Say "Im only feeling this way because im tripping"
5. Talk to my friend (normally i will start a random conversation, this seems to work best)
6. Blow my nose
7. smoke a cigerette (somtimes this can make it worst though be careful if it bothers u put it out)
8. Take a few deep breathes and try to relax yourself...most of all try to think of somthing other than what you are currently thinking about


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: 7uptrippsy]
    #897326 - 09/21/02 01:12 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Taking a piss is EASILY the best way of calming yourself down. I don't know what it is but I do that when I'm anxious and it sorts me out.

The only real bad trip you can have is when you start freaking out about the effects (increased persperation) although with me, THC is harder on my body than shrooms


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: Sparklehorse]
    #897348 - 09/21/02 01:23 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

For me in the past, when shrooms or lsd were very hard to come by, if I started going down the wrong path so to speak, I would try to practice many of the things posted by your friends here in this thread. I would also remind myself that I don't get this chance very often, better make the most of it. Then find my most favorite tunes (Tangerine Dream) at a moderate to low level and breathe. Things pass, and I could carry on. That which does not kill me only makes me stronger.

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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: The_Clash_UK]
    #898951 - 09/22/02 10:10 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Sometimes like when I've  ingested 11 grams of eq's :cool: and I'm sitting in the movie theatre and the movie "reign of fire" is starting and I look to my left and I see an elephant with an umbrella :shocked: and I think to myself "what do elepants have to do with fucking dragons" :confused:, I tell myself " take the xanax you have in your back pocket" :grin:  :wink:   


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: The_Clash_UK]
    #900096 - 09/22/02 08:38 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I personally have never had a bad trip. Environment is everything, prepare before you trip. And here is something to repeat to yourself if you start to feel overwhelmed, a quote by the great Hunter Thompson, "Buy the ticket, take the ride"


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: ]
    #904210 - 09/24/02 11:06 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I experience a "bad trip" when I have worries and concerns during the peak.

While peaking strongly, I delve into my unconscious mind (like dreaming), and lose touch with my conscious mind, and what's really going on.

The concept of time becomes lost, and I'll forget that I allocated time in my life for this trip.  I'll worry that there's something important I should be doing that I've forgotten.

I seem to be able to avoid this problem if I write myself a note before the trip -- stating what time I took the shrooms, what time the peak should occur, what time the peak should end, and what time all effects should be gone.

A good thing to write on the note would be something like, "Note from straight self to shroom self:  everything is fine, you've allocated a few hours for a nice little trip, enjoy yourself, take notes, and I'll see you after the peak :smile:"

My last trip was a little overwhelming... I tossed about 3.5g of shrooms into a blender with orange juice, let it sit a few minutes, and drank it down.

The trip hit within 15-20 minutes, and in less than an hour I was peaking quite hard.  I ended up spending two hours in the rain feeling very uncomfortable, and my sitter was unable to convince me to come inside out of the rain.

I had no idea I was soaked (or wet at all) until the peak was over.

Once the peak broke, the effects of the shrooms were pretty much gone... visuals were completely gone, and I was in a reminiscent state of mind.

I didn't end up doing anything crazy (other than pacing around looking at my watch), but I was in a bit of a panic, and had to keep convincing myself to relax, and to put my trust in the fact that I had a sitter with me (even though I had lost conscious contact with her).

If I would have had a nice little note to myself, things would have been a lot better.  The cold rain didn't help either :wink:


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: The_Clash_UK]
    #905219 - 09/24/02 05:53 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

the simple phrase 'its all inside my mind' saved those only 3 times i had a bad experience. in a few seconds i am a different man - or should i say i am on a different trip, happier and healthier.

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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: The_Clash_UK]
    #905956 - 09/25/02 12:29 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I've never had a bad trip... but I write my self a note that says "you are home, it's just a drug, you will come down". But, I agree with a lot of these posts that environment is everthing. I usually find that if I get a little agitated during the trip that a change of environment does a world of good.


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: Blazeurbuds]
    #906476 - 09/25/02 03:59 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

I sort of accept a bad trip. I had a bad trip(well...i wouldn't necessarily say bad...because in a way i enjoyed it) on purpose. I was by myself. It was going to be my third time tripping. I took 3 grams and put it in a honey and jam sandwhich(and i didn't eat much that day). I had the house to myself. So the trip started as normal...and i did some of the normal things. i went on the comptuer a bit...listened to music, etc. about a half an hour before my peak started...i went upstairs and put on a cd i made(mainly pink floyd...but also had some aphex twin on it too). i sat down in a comfortable chair and turned the lights off. now once my eyes adjusted, it only seemed semi dark, so of course i could see the picture above the fireplace. And it just so happened, when i'm all relaxed and staring ahead of me...the thing i was staring at was this big picture(it's just a artistic picture of a forest and stuff. i couldn't see it 'that' great). i listened to 'echoes' while staring off in the direction of this picture. Well i can't explain half the shit i saw...but it was messed. there were, what i would call, demon's faces, coming out of the picture and shit. they all seemed to look greenish in colour(the picture had a lot of green in it). and i also saw...i don't know what it was...but a big evil grin that stretched the length of the picture. it was smiling at me. like...it was happy about something it was doing to me. and all these demon's faces kept popping out of the picture and screaming and laughing(evil laugh), etc(that song was making the noises i guess). and this continued for the entire song(27 minutes or so). And i could notice...i was shaking a bit(only a little bit). like, my body was scared...but i kept on wanting to look at it. to kind of say ,'don't be scared of shit like this. it's just hallucinations. don't let them get the best of you'. and let me tell you...what i just described is only a LITTLE part of all the shit i saw and the feelings i felt. i knew, somewhere in my mind, i was a little scared...but i WANTED to keep looking and listening. and i sat through the ENTIRE cd. so much shit happened, that would take me so long to try and describe. but you get an idea. i was seeing horrible images. I did all that intentionally(that was what i wanted my trip to be like). and i enjoyed that trip(well not as much as good one of course).
And now, i actually don't think that much could phase me. sure...i haven't experienced ultimate doses and all that, but i'm sure i could get through almost anything. like, seeing the 'devil' or whatever, i'd be like 'whoa thats kinda scary. oh well'

but other times(other trips) where i've started to see or feel something that would be described as 'bad', and i don't really feel like seeing it or feeling it(just because it's not AS fun)...i do these four things...
1. turn different or more lights on
2. change the song
3. go get a glass of water
4. go take a piss


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: The_Clash_UK]
    #907095 - 09/25/02 12:33 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Ive only had one bad trip, and it was uncontrollable. It started as the best trip of my life, I had eaten a little more than an 8th and a lot of it was shake. I truely dont remember how long it went on, but it was myself and my two best friends that were tripping and a few sitters. We were in the woods of west va and things were quiet, dark, and somewhat peacefull. I dont know what it was but after what felt like an eternaty of clarity i thought my friend was reading my mind. I later found out he wasnt, but at the time it was too scary and i lost my dinner. I had never felt so bad, I then started to think my thoughts were in a continual loop. My thoughts were not changing, but time was proceding. I thought i was insane, so i made my friends promise to kill me instead of putting me in an institution.
I dont know how that could have been avoided, but it was scary as shit.
Don Carlos said that Don Juan would submirse him in water whenever he "endulged" and this seemed to pull him back to reality, and saved his life many times, but i dont know, water seems a little to crazy when im trippin


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: Sparklehorse]
    #913723 - 09/27/02 11:37 PM (18 years, 2 months ago)

Actualy now that you mention it, taking a piss works great. Especialy on LSD. I notice that I will forget to piss and can't feel the pressure but my body is uncomfortable some pissing feels like all the bad energy is going out. Especialy if you think about all the bad energy going out as you piss. Afterword I always feel so relaxed and like a whole new trip. Even good trips are made better this way.


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Re: What to tell yourself if going into bad trip? [Re: mntlfngrs]
    #914472 - 09/28/02 09:46 AM (18 years, 2 months ago)

my first real bad trip was actually my first trip on mushrooms..
Well, evrything had started fine, and about half an hour (euh.. not sure actually. I though Itripped for months... well, about one month..) after the peak.. We went to a friends house, and I was staring at myself in the window, and everything started to get distortioned and like "broken" ... voices were just popping here and there in a great feild of silence, and my whole vision was like shattered to piece.. when I was looking at pipol, I couldn't imagine they existed... well, lots of other stuff like that, with this curious impression of been in a dream.. anyway, I got out of there as the trip started going down, and, funny, I just knew it was going down, even if I had completly forgotten what reality was.. but, I was just following the little parachute... anyway what was curious, is the fact that I had been litteraly obseesd by shrooms for the last 6 month ( in reality) and had started growing them, and knew eveery single info on shrooms and trips on the net.. but no once did I think about the phrase "it's just a drug.." even if I was fully aware of what to do during a bad trip, I just sat there and took the ride... now, I don't know if that was bevcause I was tottaly overwhelmed by the experience and I had forgotten what reality was, and I just forgot it was a trip, so logicly I didn't think of what to do during a bad trip, as I wasn't aware of it ( :confused: :grin: ) that I didn't think about that, or if my inconcious self just though it wasn't worth the hassle of getting out of there.. the funny thing is that, after that bad trip, I was totally changed.. I didn't trip for about a year after that, and actually, I've only low-dosed since.. but I think I have learnt all I had to learn from that intense trip, and I am now ready to trip hard again.. I've managed to tell myself that bad trips arn't hell, it's just a side of tripping.. and they are perhaps the best was of making you THINK after the trip.. (well, as I haven't tripped hard since, I can't say that is general  :grin: but I'll see quite soon... :wink:  but, my bad trip was about reality and worlds been crushed & crumbled and all existencial questions freaking me out.. no seing scary spiders or stuff.. but I think that depends on the person tripping...
see ya!!  :smile: :grin: :smirk: :ooo: :shocked: :tongue: :laugh: :wink: :cool:


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