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My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!)
    #8677946 - 07/24/08 09:09 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I have to of those energy saving lights rigged to stimulate big fruits and a heat light in the middle cuz it can get cold in my basement.  Are the lights even a good idea?  Also do you think i drilled to many holes? Thanks in advance! :thumbup:











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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: SpinyPine44]
    #8678101 - 07/24/08 09:47 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

i put a lot more holes than that.

i would add more perlite.

and how much light is that?


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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: just me]
    #8678129 - 07/24/08 09:53 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

You are never supposed to heat a FC .....you heat the room if needed NOT the FC

I also use more holes ...in the bottom too


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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8678135 - 07/24/08 09:55 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

i've seen shotguns that have twenty times that amount of holes,

that light heat it up???

i'd say that pans would do great in that :shrugs:

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: jeetered]
    #8678143 - 07/24/08 09:56 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

yeah, reason i asked about the light OP is cuz any extra heat in there is gonna make it drier. if im not mistaken.

and they dont need intense light like cannibis.

a 13w cfl would suffice


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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: just me]
    #8678151 - 07/24/08 09:58 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

he has clearly got a ceramic heater in there....you should remove it before putting any casings/cakes in there


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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: SpinyPine44]
    #8678173 - 07/24/08 10:05 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Your holes look okay but keep an eye on the humidity anyway.  I've had major issues with humidity because of the holes in my FC.  It depends on a lot of factors; my room has very low humidity and a lot of air movement so those leach my FC's humidity.  I'm working with the issue by just taping up some of the holes.  Most people don't have an issue, but if you do, you can try the same

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: just me]
    #8678176 - 07/24/08 10:06 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

the lights are 2 120v 60 watt mini flourecents

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: SpinyPine44]
    #8678192 - 07/24/08 10:14 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

an overkill bro.

i know you love your hood there and it looks amazing. excellent carpentry and intuition, but i believe it will only end up hurting your mush in the long run.

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: SpinyPine44]
    #8678202 - 07/24/08 10:20 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

why can't you just heat the chamber if the temp gets low?  I wasn't planning on having it on at all times i put it inn just in case the temp did go to low i could turn it on for like 10 min or so.  I understand that mushrooms barely need any light but someone on here told me the best thing they ever did was put in two of those lights because it helps get bigger fruits and more of them, he said it also helps them grow up. Is that all true? thanks for the help everyone keep it coming! :thumbup::mushroom2:

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: SpinyPine44]
    #8678232 - 07/24/08 10:30 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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why can't you just heat the chamber if the temp gets low?  I wasn't planning on having it on at all times i put it inn just in case the temp did go to low i could turn it on for like 10 min or so.  I understand that mushrooms barely need any light but someone on here told me the best thing they ever did was put in two of those lights because it helps get bigger fruits and more of them, he said it also helps them grow up. Is that all true? thanks for the help everyone keep it coming! :thumbup::mushroom2:




Mis Information...Mushrooms need nothing more than mere NANO Seconds of light to pin and grow in the right direction


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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: SpinyPine44]
    #8678256 - 07/24/08 10:35 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

you think I could just take out one light and just set the other on top for 12/12?

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: SpinyPine44]
    #8678264 - 07/24/08 10:37 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

well if its normal size sockets, id take them both out and throw some 7w cfls in there.

and 12/12 is what i do, but like menace said, they dont really need it. i just do 12/12 cuz i think i heard a well known mycologist say to


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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: just me]
    #8678274 - 07/24/08 10:39 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Well because i like to Contradict the Status Quo, I keep my lights on 24/7

but they dont need it. I just dont like fucking with switches and timers and crap


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roby000 said: thats true a shotgun is almost like a college degree in a sense that if you show it to the right person at the right time you could make a lot of money.

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: just me]
    #8678289 - 07/24/08 10:42 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

ya the sockets are normal the metal things just help project the light down, i actually read the lights wrong they are 14w CFL's i just looked.

http://www.homedepot.com/catalog/productImage/da513cd7-0389-4cdf-9046-0183838cfd8d_400.jpg
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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: SpinyPine44]
    #8678299 - 07/24/08 10:44 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

you only need 1... any idea of spectrum?

You need more Blue spectrum than that... i can see the meter on the front of the box.
Get a reveal brand one:grin:


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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: SpinyPine44]
    #8678307 - 07/24/08 10:47 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

so yeah, with the heater in there n such, you should be growing copelandias for sure, im gonna clone this FC and do it myself.

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: jeetered]
    #8678312 - 07/24/08 10:48 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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    #8678339 - 07/24/08 10:53 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: SpinyPine44]
    #8678363 - 07/24/08 10:58 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

No... they are just in the wrong spectrum to really act as a pinning trigger...

you need to be in the 6500k range or Blue Spectrum.
the lights you need actually seem to blind you due to the UV and look from the other room at night like theres a TV on in the other room:lol:


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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: P.Menace]
    #8678392 - 07/24/08 11:08 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

interesting....so i should remove the heat lamp and heat outside the FC or heat the room if the temp needs to go up and replace the lights with bluer lights or in the 6500 range.  Hopefully walmart will just let me buy the lid only to a bin haha.

well thanks everyone I really appriciate it
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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: SpinyPine44]
    #8678448 - 07/24/08 11:24 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

never hurts to have an extra bin.

make a glove box


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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: SpinyPine44]
    #8678455 - 07/24/08 11:26 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

ya thats true my glove box is pretty small those bins are like 12 bucks tho! lol im so cheap

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: SpinyPine44]
    #8678795 - 07/25/08 12:38 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Number of holes looks fine to me. Make sure you lift the fc  a few inches of the ground. And a lot  more perlite...


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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: pontus]
    #8678819 - 07/25/08 12:42 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Double up the perlite.

Holes look great.

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: P.Menace]
    #8679547 - 07/25/08 08:41 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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That's perhaps some of the worst advice I've read on this board in a long time.  It's a simple repeat of incorrect information in Stamets' TMC from 20+ years ago, that he doesn't even still repeat.  Paul now recommends 12/12 of bright fluorescent light in the 6,500 Kelvin color temperature range.

Your light is fine, and bright light is always better, but as said, don't heat your terrarium.  It will cause your precious humidity to be turned into condensation on the walls.  Heat the general area the terrarium is located, but not the terrarium itself.  Good luck.

Get your terrarium off that carpet, and make sure you have holes in the bottom and top as well. You need at least 1" of air space below the terrarium. Your humidity will actually increase if you'll follow the tek.  The only problem I see is those appear to be larger than 1/4" holes(6mm).  It must be remembered that a 1/2" hole is 4 times as large as a 1/4" hole, so by going larger you can screw things up.
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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8681062 - 07/25/08 04:42 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

thanks RR
all the holes exept the ones on the top are 1/4" but I think I'm gunna replace the lid anyways.

So it looks like I will just take out the heat lamp, get it off the towel, add more perlite and put some blocks under the corners to lift it up.  Also I will make sure the bulbs I have are in the 6500k range.

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: SpinyPine44]
    #8681187 - 07/25/08 05:17 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

so RR gets a thanks but the rest of us....nothing?


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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: just me]
    #8686135 - 07/26/08 10:01 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

^LOL^
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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: P.Menace]
    #8686193 - 07/26/08 10:14 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

might dry your cakes out with those lights

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: Jeets]
    #8690496 - 07/27/08 10:27 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

ya thats a good point i didn't think about that.  I think I'm gunna make a new chamber and just use one light.

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: just me]
    #8691228 - 07/28/08 02:30 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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cuz any extra heat in there is gonna make it drier. if im not mistaken.






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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: just me]
    #8694761 - 07/28/08 09:41 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

LOL ya i'm so observent! :rolleyes:

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: SpinyPine44]
    #8695190 - 07/28/08 10:58 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

ok question for all you.

is it observant or observative


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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: just me]
    #8695346 - 07/28/08 11:34 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Observant is far more widely used.

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: Mad River]
    #8695371 - 07/28/08 11:43 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

r they both real words?


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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: just me]
    #8695407 - 07/28/08 11:55 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

That's a good question. I've always heard the word observative, but was unable to get a solid grasp utilizing internet sources as to whether it is an acceptable usage or not... I didn't look in a real dictionary, sorry. The spellcheck here and in Word says NO...

It is kind of clumsy sounding...

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Re: My Shotgun FC....Overkill on the holes? (PICS!) [Re: Mad River]
    #8695713 - 07/29/08 01:51 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

my mom and i have argued for so long which is the correct word, so long infact i doubt either of us could remember who said which one was right :lol:


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