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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #8681759 - 07/25/08 10:32 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Relative to us, we might "see" them experience very little time at that speed, but to them, it would still be X,XXX,XXX light years of travel....

>^;;^<




Yea, you got it wrong.

If we could see them moving inside their ships moving at close to light speed, relative to where we stand, we would be watching them moving in slow-motion.

It's a trade-off.

In the amount of time that we could experience thoudands of years, they may only experience hundreds or perhaps years in the tens.  So much could have happened in this universe that they would have skipped.


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: Ginseng1]
    #8681779 - 07/25/08 10:38 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

We are saying the same thing, I just worded it badly (I am going to use the "it's been a long day" card  :tongue: )....
We would see them experience very little time (a smaller amount of time) = slow motion....
They would still experience the full X,XXX,XXX years of travel....


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #8681894 - 07/25/08 11:09 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

They couldn't possible experience such great distances, because I don't think they really travel those distances begin with.  Rememeber - space curves...

Looking at them, we experience their distance, but they don't experience it.  And vice versa. That is why beauty is in the eye of the beholder.  So, it doesn't matter if we experience them travelling those distances, or they experience us evolving at a thousand years at a time, that is our experience, and theirs is theirs.  And none of this time, space, and distance crap is absolute.  It's all illusion.

How to step beyond the illusion is where I think these aliens happen to dabble.


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: Ginseng1]
    #8682018 - 07/25/08 11:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Unless they have perfected living much longer individual life spans - which we are in the process of learning/discovering ourselves....
(which could be our own undoing)
I understand the basic concepts of wormholes and such, and I personally can't rule them out nor be in favor - I don't know enough....

I sometimes wonder if we will ever know all of the vastness of the true nature of the universe we live in....
An illusion of the illusion....


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #8682031 - 07/25/08 11:42 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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I sometimes wonder if we will ever know all of the vastness of the true nature of the universe we live in....
An illusion of the illusion....




I think that we either will never truly know, or we already do.  Literally.  We just can't remember it right now, but we do every time we dream. :wink:


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: Ginseng1]
    #8682080 - 07/25/08 11:53 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

I have had these thoughts of "knowing"....
Like EVERYTHING that is brought to the table is based on some glimmer of truth that we just are not able to truly grasp and reveal as the truth that it is....
That fleeting feeling of some grand hint after a blast of N2O, so close to being able to fit that puzzle piece into it's correct spot....
Then it all falls apart....

ARG.....!    :lol:


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #8682361 - 07/26/08 01:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

In regards to proof, I think skeptics would do well to keep in mind that if we are being visited, we're being visited by conscious, sentient beings who perhaps don't want us to know they're here.  It wouldn't be like tracking the migratory patterns of geese or something.  After all, if any of us were being surveilled by the FBI, how many of us would even be aware of it, much less be able to prove it?


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: mofo]
    #8682518 - 07/26/08 01:49 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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In regards to proof, I think skeptics would do well to keep in mind that if we are being visited, we're being visited by conscious, sentient beings who perhaps don't want us to know they're here.  It wouldn't be like tracking the migratory patterns of geese or something.  After all, if any of us were being surveilled by the FBI, how many of us would even be aware of it, much less be able to prove it?



Good point.

Also in terms of 'scientific proof', cigarette smoke hasn't been 'scientifically proven' to cause lung cancer in humans either, doesn't mean it cant happen.


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: Ginseng1]
    #8683049 - 07/26/08 05:57 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

Talk of how they could get here is fun speculation but also pointless from our perspective.

The first guy to travel out to sea on a log may of thought theres no way anybody could ever get far in this huge ocean.  But years later we have ships, submarines and we bypass the sea completely by flying over it.

Space is the same, its just at the moment we are still in canoes!  Shooting an over sized firework into space is as basic as space travel could possibly be.

Claiming you can't go faster than the speed of light is silly too because it presumes a complete understanding of the universe which is not what we have.  We have a theory - an unproven idea.


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: mofo]
    #8683274 - 07/26/08 09:11 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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In regards to proof, I think skeptics would do well to keep in mind that if we are being visited, we're being visited by conscious, sentient beings who perhaps don't want us to know they're here.  It wouldn't be like tracking the migratory patterns of geese or something.  After all, if any of us were being surveilled by the FBI, how many of us would even be aware of it, much less be able to prove it?




And, if someone tried to prove it and they didn't want them to, just imagine how easily they could tar them with the paranoid kook brush.


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: WONKA]
    #8683283 - 07/26/08 09:23 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

you mean, theres a slight possibility that we're not the highest on the food chain.  :runaway:


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: JonnyDeformed]
    #8683472 - 07/26/08 11:21 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

It's possible that we are being visited by something so foreign that we don't even recognize it.

Or, we aren't being visited by the aliens themselves, but their self-replicating robots, most likely nanobots, who are simply collecting info and sending it back home.


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: JonnyDeformed]
    #8683521 - 07/26/08 11:46 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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you mean, theres a slight possibility that we're not the highest on the food chain.  :runaway:




The food chain is a circle. When we die, we're food for the worms and fungi.


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #8685286 - 07/26/08 08:37 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The food chain is a circle. When we die, we're food for the worms and fungi.




So the shroomz are the top of the food chain.


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: Visionary Tools]
    #8685291 - 07/26/08 08:40 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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Quote:

JonnyDeformed said:
you mean, theres a slight possibility that we're not the highest on the food chain.  :runaway:




The food chain is a circle. When we die, we're food for the worms and fungi.




I was thinking more along the lines of a predatory type scenario.
We're being farmed....


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: Helltick]
    #8686336 - 07/27/08 12:42 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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The food chain is a circle. When we die, we're food for the worms and fungi.




So the shroomz are the top of the food chain.





does a circle have a top...?

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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: JonnyDeformed]
    #8686360 - 07/27/08 12:48 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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We're being farmed....




Most likely.


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: Middleman]
    #8686439 - 07/27/08 01:09 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

The aliens should try to spawn humans to hpoo to see if we grow back better.


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: demiu5]
    #8687108 - 07/27/08 05:05 AM (12 years, 9 months ago)

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demius said:
does a circle have a top...?

:flowstone:




Not as much as a circle has a crop....    :tongue:


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Re: Moon-walker claims alien contact cover-up [Re: PhanTomCat]
    #8689309 - 07/27/08 07:31 PM (12 years, 9 months ago)

does it mean something when there 2 or more "starish" things flying next to each other/at a distance, but like turning with each other, going the same way and shit, or is that just jets or something, i think it jets n shit, a bunch of my friends keep saying they keep seeing that shit where i live, but i always watch the skys and the most scaryest thing i see is polution


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