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I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad.
    #8676085 - 07/24/08 11:56 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Sorry for the poor quality. Trying not to give these babies too much light. Ideas? Ive heard some yellowing is normal, but this is a bit more than discoloration. This jar is the only one with it. It became fully colonized a couple days ago, and the plan is to birth it tomorrow.



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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: frushi]
    #8676109 - 07/24/08 12:00 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Those spots don't look white to me.......

looks like you may have a contam, sorry man.

But I'm a noob, so i cant really say from experience but my jars are pure white; and from what i understand ANY color other then white or metabolites(a little yeallowish liquid) is bad, Id definitely keep that jar away from the others until someone with more experience can answer.


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: Blasphemous]
    #8676120 - 07/24/08 12:03 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

looks just like some condensation to me. I haven't seen any type of contam like that.


I have spots that looked like that in my PF jars way back in the day. They were just fine.


Just let it grow a few more days in the jar, if it turns any other colors, it might be contamed, if not, then birth it and see. I still think it's just some condensation.


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: Blasphemous]
    #8676143 - 07/24/08 12:08 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Looks like metabolites. Nothing to worry about. If it continues to spread, and cover your entire cake it may be a contam. I'm pretty sure its metabolites.


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: frushi]
    #8676154 - 07/24/08 12:12 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Thanks for the help. We'll see what happens I guess! This is the first grow. Keeping the fingers crossed!

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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: frushi]
    #8676171 - 07/24/08 12:17 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I  had a cake from my first batch that looked like that. It fruited fine.

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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: The]
    #8676277 - 07/24/08 12:56 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Probably just metabolites. You will find out tomorrow before you birth it. When you open the jar take a sniff of it if it smells like mushrooms its fine if not toss it in a hole in the backyard.


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: robanero]
    #8676293 - 07/24/08 01:01 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Condensation inside the jars is typical at that stage. I'm not sure from the pic what that discoloration is, but myc piss will leave a urine colored liquid in your jar and is nothing to worry over.

However, that jar doesn't appear that way in the pic. The myc itself appears to have the color. It may be trying to fruit invitro. Birth it and fruit separately until your sure.

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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: Bamaman]
    #8676305 - 07/24/08 01:06 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Condensation inside the jars is typical at that stage. I'm not sure from the pic what that discoloration is, but myc piss will leave a urine colored liquid in your jar and is nothing to worry over.

However, that jar doesn't appear that way in the pic. The myc itself appears to have the color. It may be trying to fruit invitro. Birth it and fruit separately until your sure.




Yeah. upon 2nd look at the pic. that sounds like that could be going on.


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: Bamaman]
    #8676995 - 07/24/08 04:15 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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The myc itself appears to have the color. It may be trying to fruit invitro. Birth it and fruit separately until your sure.

Great job by the way. +5 for you




Yeah, it does look like the myc itself is colored, and that it is growth of some sort. It's definitely interesting.

Since there are 30 jars, let's birth it now and see what happens. If it IS already trying to fruit, may as well, eh?

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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: frushi]
    #8677014 - 07/24/08 04:20 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

1. NEVER sniff a jar that could be contaminated, this is dangerous and a NOOB thing to do.. when i doubt, throw it out.

2. That is not a conatm, it's normal, it's either invitro pinning, or aggressive mycelium/primordia.

3. Just birth it it's fine.

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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: jeetered]
    #8677032 - 07/24/08 04:25 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Yep. Sniff it, and you could end up in the hospital in a month or so. With an infection of one of your major organs. Don't believe me? Try it.

I got a bacterial infection but it wasn't due to mushrooms...It came from the hospital that I was kept in for 2 months. Bastards.


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: MHbound]
    #8677042 - 07/24/08 04:27 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Here's an even better pic.


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: frushi]
    #8677053 - 07/24/08 04:30 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Is it getting a lot of light? Its starting to look like its going invitro on you. I thought it was metabolites, but now looking more like growth. Fruit it...If its fully colonized.


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: MHbound]
    #8677054 - 07/24/08 04:30 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

If they've only been colonized a few days, I'd wait 3 or 4 more to birth.

Then dunk n' roll.

Followed by rock n' roll.  :rockman:

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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: Mad River]
    #8677088 - 07/24/08 04:45 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Or spawn it to horse poo or a good coir recipe and wait 7 to ten days for it to colonize. Then get this: 18 ozs of fresh mush to dry to 35 grams of fungitastic wave action...




I picked them yesterday and dried them overnight.

That jar is ready to be spawned or broken up and cased with 50/50. Congrats. Your Jar looks great. I've had plenty that looked like that and turned out sexy.


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: chobumms]
    #8677162 - 07/24/08 05:10 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Don't dunk and roll a cake that has already started to fruit. Let it do its first flush, and then dunk and roll.


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: MHbound]
    #8677177 - 07/24/08 05:14 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Let it do its first flush, and then dunk and roll.




I like that idea. Thanks!

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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: MHbound]
    #8677244 - 07/24/08 05:32 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Don't dunk and roll a cake that has already started to fruit. Let it do its first flush...




Exactly.

However I wouldin't recommend rolling at all if you fruit directly from jar which is what I would do with that one. The reason is after your first flush your cake would then be using it's leftover energy to get rhizo growth past the verm.

To me, you would be going backward a step in the fungai energy process. Once you have established the pinning triggers on a cake I don't think it is wise to try to get it to colonize some more even if it is only verm.


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: Bamaman]
    #8677261 - 07/24/08 05:36 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

this cake is perfectly fine to use in an manner you please, all of the above advice is just asking to waste time, energy, and product, spawn it to coir or manure, fruit it like a cake, do whatever you had originally planned, i've had cakes do this also, and i've had grain jars do it, it's not so unusual, to me it reminds me of it trying to form sclerotias, whilet hat IS NOT the case, they are perfectly fine to use however you had planned.

so, before these loads of advice that aren't to par, what WAS your original plan when the cakes were ready??

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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: jeetered]
    #8677264 - 07/24/08 05:37 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

also, u can dunk and roll that cake JUST FINE with no problems... IF that was your original plan.

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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: jeetered]
    #8677305 - 07/24/08 05:49 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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all of the above advice is just asking to waste time, energy, and product...so, before these loads of advice that aren't to par....




How so jeets? I've only experienced sclerotia invitro. If you have had cube invitro experience maybe I could recommend some techniques to avoid what you have been doing wrong.


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: Bamaman]
    #8677312 - 07/24/08 05:52 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

That was some quick editing jeeter. :wink:


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: jeetered]
    #8677406 - 07/24/08 06:31 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

just fruit it!

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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: jeetered]
    #8677515 - 07/24/08 07:19 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

How was our advice not up to "PAR"? I said fruit it like it is, and then dunk and roll...

Now some of the others I don't really agree with.


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: MHbound]
    #8677632 - 07/24/08 07:48 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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How was our advice not up to "PAR"? I said fruit it like it is, and then dunk and roll...

Now some of the others I don't really agree with.




well, there really is no reason to dunk and roll after 1st flush either. Dunk yes, but roll no.

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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: jeetered]
    #8677651 - 07/24/08 07:52 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Yes there is. Some people dunk and roll after each flush. I would find it, but RR has even said it I think.


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: Bamaman]
    #8677652 - 07/24/08 07:52 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Quote:

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all of the above advice is just asking to waste time, energy, and product...so, before these loads of advice that aren't to par....




How so jeets? I've only experienced sclerotia invitro. If you have had cube invitro experience maybe I could recommend some techniques to avoid what you have been doing wrong.





cubensis does NOT form sclerotia.

"If you have had cube invitro experience"

for years i've grown invitro poo bags, i've probably done thousands up thousands of them. This is two of many thousands o pics i have of invitro growing.





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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: frushi]
    #8677671 - 07/24/08 08:07 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Sorry for the poor quality. Trying not to give these babies too much light.




You don't need to worry about the light, or the flash. It won't hurt anything. :smile::thumbup:

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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: jeetered]
    #8678107 - 07/24/08 09:48 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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cubensis does NOT form sclerotia.




I never said it did, reread my post.

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for years i've grown invitro poo bags, i've probably done thousands up thousands of them. This is two of many thousands o pics i have of invitro growing.




Assuming that when you say thousands let's just say it only means 2000, and you said "upon thousands" that means you have produced 5.5 poo bags a day, every day for about the last 730 days("for years" haha). Is that what your telling us?

Hmmm ... you may want to edit that post before you lose all credibility around here jeets. Everyone can read your very first postings here and see that you were a straight up TiT half pint noob on 7-10-06.

I was here for nearly a year before you came around. People remember... no need to puff thyself up.


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: frushi]
    #8679026 - 07/25/08 02:02 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Sorry for the poor quality. Trying not to give these babies too much light. Ideas? Ive heard some yellowing is normal, but this is a bit more than discoloration. This jar is the only one with it. It became fully colonized a couple days ago, and the plan is to birth it tomorrow.



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i have smaller spots on my cakes that look like that and are exact same color i think thats just you substraight pressed up against the glass that is a little juicy i wouldnt worry about it. the contam that i had last time was bright orange and red and had green mold


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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: cake is a lie]
    #8679517 - 07/25/08 08:27 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

It's normal for cakes to produce growths like that.  Birth, dunk and roll as normal, and place in your terrarium.

While we recommend against sniffing obvious mold spores, it's easy to tell that your cake isn't moldy.  I'd rinse it under the faucet after birthing, and then take a good whiff.  I'm sure it will smell like fresh mushrooms.

If you're unsure about dunk and roll, read the text on this page and watch the video of brf tek part 3 where it's shown, right after the shotgun terrarium tek is demonstrated.
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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8682304 - 07/25/08 10:59 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Definitely smells shroomy!

It's in the fc now...

Thanks for all the help, folks. Sorry to have caused such debate! Haha.

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Re: I'm not sure what this is and/or if it is bad. [Re: frushi]
    #8700600 - 07/30/08 01:30 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Well! It was definitely nothing to worry about! The mycelium has grown pretty much completely over the blue spots and is lookin healthy.

Thanks for the help/advice/encouragement!

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