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Re: First Bulk Grow w/Pics! [Re: Hattori Hanzo]
    #8681323 - 07/25/08 05:54 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

seven, tripsis - do you have a scientific source for saying there are more than one substrain in the tissue from a single fruit? Basically you're saying a tissue LC clone isn't actually a clone.

You could clone a albino and if the resulting fruits were not all albino, that would support your argument.


Edit: replaced subspecies with substrain

Edited by roquet (07/25/08 06:38 PM)

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Re: First Bulk Grow w/Pics! [Re: chobumms]
    #8681358 - 07/25/08 06:04 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

A cartoon.

The light you might want to use is a GE Energy Smart Cool Natural Light 26 watt Daylight 6500K. PowerOfTheCoir turned me on to this one. It's nice because it uses a standard light socket, therefore you can use it in the standard aluminum dome style drop light fixture.

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Re: First Bulk Grow w/Pics! [Re: roquet]
    #8681397 - 07/25/08 06:14 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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seven, tripsis - do you have a scientific source for saying there are more than one subspecies in the tissue from a single fruit? Basically you're saying a tissue LC clone isn't actually a clone.

You could clone a albino and if the resulting fruits were not all albino, that would support your argument.




Neither of us said there is more than one subspecies, we said substrain. No, I don't have any scientific reference to back up that statement. Try cloning tissue from a few fruits to agar yourself and see what happens, I almost guarantee you that at least one of them will sector out into several distinct substrains.

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Re: First Bulk Grow w/Pics! [Re: wisp]
    #8681431 - 07/25/08 06:26 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

sorry, I meant substrain. Sadly I don't have agar and petri dishes. My attempts at making my own and pouring it into jars just got lots of mould. I have made LC from tissue successfully.

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Re: First Bulk Grow w/Pics! [Re: roquet]
    #8681502 - 07/25/08 06:48 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Oh...well, I can tell you that I've done it before and the tissue has sectored out into several distinct substrains. Making an LC from a clone will still be reducing the number of substrains in a grow but won't necessarily result in a single isolate. Did you find all the fruits fairly identical in subsequent grows from your LC?

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Re: First Bulk Grow w/Pics! [Re: letsdothis]
    #8681580 - 07/25/08 07:25 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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The Mushroom Cultivator written by Stamets and Chilton

Page 153 shows a picture of an entire tray of cubes growing almost at a 45 degree angle towards the light. The caption reads "Characteristic phototropic response of P. cubensis toward light"




And I take that and learn. It is a good day! Thanks for that  info. I have been researching and now agree. My understanding of Phototropisms was tainted.

Once again say thanks for the Stamets ref. I do not but need to have The Mushroom Cultivator. It has been years since I have read any part of it.

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Re: First Bulk Grow w/Pics! [Re: robanero]
    #8682932 - 07/26/08 03:11 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Not a problem Roban. After all, what good would this site be if we weren't able to better our knowledge!

I've only been growing for about 6 months and I just picked up The Mushroom Cultivator on overstock. It came in a day or two ago and I'm already finished with the 400+ page beast. Although its pretty old (anything older than me I consider 'pretty old' :laugh:), still some amazing stuff! I skipped the large chapter about composting after learning all about that in microbiology and plus I don't have the energy, resources or need to do any of that.

Back to phototropism, I do recall reading somewhere here that if you are growing PF style and turn your cakes a quarter turn and keep this up your mushies will grow in a spiral shape. Seems pointless to me...

Last week I had a PB pin grow straight down the cake and actually lift it up to where it eventually fell over. Once the cake fell over the mushy started to grow towards the light and ended up in a very odd shape. I've got pics of it posted for kicks.

And at 4am now I think it is time to fight this insomnia...

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Re: First Bulk Grow w/Pics! [Re: letsdothis]
    #8701931 - 07/30/08 12:15 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Update:  I harvested the first flush a few days ago, and now have them cracker dry.  I fanned them for 48 hours and then put them in a sealed jar with desiccant.  Dry weight from the two pans was just under 47g.  The fruits from the F+ pan were significantly smaller when their veils broke than the B+, I think that in part this was due to the different pinset and using coir as a substrate rather than hpoo.

Thanks yet again for all the comments and input!

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