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 Sacrebleu
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 LSD synthesis 
#8671467 - 07/23/08 11:57 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Can LSD be synthesised using morning glory/HBWR precursor? I've never heard that one before. ><"
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Re: LSD synthesis [Re: Sacrebleu]
#8671475 - 07/23/08 11:59 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes. Its complicated. No, you can't do it.
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Quotation
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Re: LSD synthesis [Re: LSDreamer]
#8671623 - 07/23/08 12:34 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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From what I understand, they COULD be a precursor, but they are not the preferred precursor by most chemists. Also, the process is very complicated. ET is the preferred precursor, if I'm not mistaken.
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Re: LSD synthesis [Re: Quotation]
#8671890 - 07/23/08 01:35 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Quotation said:
From what I understand, they could be a precursor, but they are not the preferred precursor by most chemists. Also, the process is very complicated. ET is the preferred precursor, if I'm not mistaken.
LSD is made from aliens!
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Justice_Fish
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Re: LSD synthesis [Re: jhoppa]
#8672226 - 07/23/08 02:57 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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ET
Lysergic Acid
And I forgot the rest
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smokeybear
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lsa + peppermint oil = lsh right??
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Deathloc
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If you're going to Synthesize LSD yourself, I suggest just going from LSA.
But the thing I Mainly suggest is don't do it. It's a long complicated process.
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Cannabischarlie
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Re: LSD synthesis [Re: Sacrebleu]
#8672414 - 07/23/08 03:37 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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there is a whole forum for this.
I found a really good lsa extraction, but even that is complicated.
can it be done? yes. but it is not cost effective, but I assume probably easier to do if you know what you are doing and just want some LSD.
I actually pondered this the other day, knowing it to be possible, just dont know what it takes.
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Quake3
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It'll work, but it's impractical because you would need a lot of seeds to get any usable product. We're talking a bathtub full of seeds that need to be crushed and processed, for example.
The practical way to obtain the precursor is to grow a culture of fungus (Claviceps) that produces it. The problem here is that the fungus is dangerous ("your arms will fall out if it touches you" dangerous), but this is the method most hobbyists go, as far as I know. In practice, you should be OK if you're careful. They have methods of culturing this fungus "safely" but I wouldn't recommend it unless you know what you're doing and have the proper equipment.
Go here and scroll down.
hxxp://www.usdoj.gov/dea/programs/forensicsci/microgram/mg0304/mg0304.html (paste in browser and change xx to tt)
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The storage boxes were seized from an apartment by agents from the DEA Winchester (Virginia) Post of Duty. The exhibits included a variety of chemicals and glassware, including numerous petri dishes and plastic cups containing fungal growth (see Photos 7 and 8). Analysis and evaluation indicated that the clandestine laboratory operator (a biology student at a local University) was attempting to produce lysergic acid from an uncommonly used strain of ergot fungus, Claviceps Paspali, and appeared to be in the early stages of determining optimal growth media and conditions.
Obtaining the precursor is one task. It doesn't mean you're in the clear. The synthesis is definitely feasible by a determined amateur chemist, but it's probably a pain in the ass unless you have the proper equipment and experience.
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Re: LSD synthesis [Re: Quake3]
#8673515 - 07/23/08 08:10 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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if you want to i suggest at least going to one year of organic chemistry. yes you can derive lysergic acid from morning glory among other things. the process to convert that to lsd is complicated only if you dont know chemistry and basic lab knowledge. if you look hard enough you can find the synthesis, buy you have know find some one to read it for you or go to school your self. and if you were going to spend all that time doing what i mentioned i would recommend just culturing ergot your self. probably a lot like a rye substrate. other then that i agree with jhoppa, definitely created by aliens....but then again we are half them and they know us...its a biological virus that never goes away once exposed upon the self.
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Re: LSD synthesis [Re: Sacrebleu]
#8673529 - 07/23/08 08:14 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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not really it's technically possible i think... but i even with the rye shit i hear that ppl use... i think most of the time its just synthietic pure lsygeric acid... even then you'd need about 500,000- 1 mil dollars and some crazy drug connections, and a pretty gifted brain... if u look at the history of all of the ppl who were caught creating lsd... these were all REALLY smart ppl; check out pickard and his friend... these aren't ur batchelor degree college students but hardcore hippies, with serious drug connections and access to rescricted lab equipment etc... and the whole yellow light red light thing im guessing probably doesn't work cuz if it did we'd have a helluva a lot more then 10-20 lsd labs operating in the united states.
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 EllisDSox
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Re: LSD synthesis [Re: ayshuca]
#8673623 - 07/23/08 08:45 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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ET
Lysergic Acid
And I forgot the rest
The lysergic acid comes from the ergotamine, if I'm not hugely mistaken. The other chemical that appears in the final product is diethylamine, though there are a few more chemicals needed for the synthesis.
Unless you just happen to be a very competent chemist and stumble across a few dozen bin bags full of Hawaiian Baby Woodrose seeds, it's really not worth it.
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Re: LSD synthesis [Re: Sacrebleu]
#8673635 - 07/23/08 08:48 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Extract; purify to obtain lysergic amides. Hydrolyze with KOH and recover lysergic acid. Proceed either via POCl3 (a la Shulgin) or PyPOB (a la Hardison).
But if you asked this question before using the search function, you're definitely not qualified to do it.
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