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spawm bags for dummies VOL 1
#8670194 - 07/23/08 01:29 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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hello i just recently purchased "Large Presealable Gusseted Spawn Bags". it has the filter patch on it also. ok i just fill these with substrate and pressure cook them?? let cool, inoculate, let it fully colonize, dump in containers, and case.. bla bla.. well my question is what is "presealable"? do i need to seal these with some sealer thingy? when i put them in the pressure cooker how do i set them in? i read something about a dab of silcone as an incoculation injection point?? what if im using a wedge from a petri dish? can i do a grain to grain transfer to the bag?? just confused on the whole bag thing. I have always been a jar kinda guy. I did some slight looking around but i can really find a section called "spawn bags for dummies".. any links, comments, or advice would be apreciated. thanks
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: tripchip]
#8670199 - 07/23/08 01:32 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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you dont just add substrate, you need to hydrate it first
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: just me]
#8670205 - 07/23/08 01:36 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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tripchip, you need to do some reading man. I'm not giving you a hard time, but it's something that HAS to be done if you want to be successful.
Start here: http://www.shroomery.org/4/Grow-Mushrooms
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: BrandNewbie]
#8670208 - 07/23/08 01:38 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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well he knows a bit.
i dont know shit about petri dishes. and ive never done g2g...i dont think 
but just throwin sub in a bag isnt going to do anything.
whether its grain that needs hydrating, or another sub that needs to be a field capacity
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: just me]
#8670213 - 07/23/08 01:40 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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You don't think? You were probably wasted! lol
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: BrandNewbie]
#8670217 - 07/23/08 01:41 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Well, petri dishes are, well, um, they're round!, and um, well...
...round and..
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: tripchip]
#8670218 - 07/23/08 01:41 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Okay, I'll share. Now the ingredients were compiled with the help of Blue Helix and Agar. There is nothing exotic in here, but it has a good nutritional profile. This recipe is for 4 large filter patch spawn bags. It will fill them within 2 1/2 inches of the bottom of the filter patch and lays out perfectly in 19 quart containers with a substrate depth of 3 1/2 inches.
The recipe is as follows:
48 Cups of horse manure (shredded) 24 Cups of vermiculite 16 1/2 Cups of dry WBS (do not soak or simmer) 4 Tablespoons of dry Kelp Meal 6 Tablespoons of Canola or Vegetable oil 21 Cups of water
Thoroughly mix all dry ingredients together. Now, add the water and mix again. Due to the human error factor on measurements, you may consider adding only 18 cups of water to begin with and adjust it from there. However, I have found that any measurements that are off are negligible in the moisture content.
After all the water is added, test your moisture content by giving the substrate a hard squeeze. You should only be able to extract a few drops from this, not a steady drip. If you find that your substrate is a little too wet, slowly add vermiculite until you get the right consistency. If you measure everything correctly this should not be necessary. The moisture content needs to be slightly dryer than normal to allow for the liquid culture you will inject later.
The final step is adding the oil. I prefer to add the oil in after the water has been added. I find it's much easier to mix in and doesn't stick to the substrate in one area or clump. Mixing the oil in with the dry ingredients will surely clump on you.
Load your spawn bags at the same time and make sure they are as even as possible. Now it does not matter where you mix this. I do mine in my garage. I know I'm going to sterilize the substrate so contaminates are less of a concern. Follow the tek by Blue Helix to complete it. I personally PC for 3 1/2 hours at 15 PSI.
After they have cooled just inoculate and wait.
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5254314#Post5254314
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/5868089#5868089
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: King Koopa]
#8670220 - 07/23/08 01:43 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Oh, LEACH that horse manure! My office smells to high heaven right now....
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: just me]
#8670237 - 07/23/08 01:53 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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LOL yeah i know if need to hydrate the grains. you guys say read.. well where should i start? i been browsing on here but havent found all the info in one place. just trying to get a good clear vision of how everything is going to work out before i try it. I guess i need to get the bags first to see how those things even work. I am more than likely going to use a wedge from a petri dish to inoculate the bags. (thats the plan). I first want to isolate some good looking mycelium then after isolating a few good-looking types of mycelium i want to transfer a wedge in each bag. lets say 3 bags.. them the bag that did the best I want to get a clone from the nicest fruit and repeat the prcoess till i have a good isolate. i want to get away from multi spores. anyways i have done a lot of reading. i feel all searched out from searching for info. im sure i can find the information i need on my own but anyone that wants to ssave me some research time feel free to help me out with these bag questions :-) i just dont have the good mental picture on how its all gonna go down when i actually use the bags. peace out for now!!
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: tripchip]
#8670243 - 07/23/08 01:56 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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it helps me sometimes to have a notepad beside me. so if i read somethin i know will help, i jot it down. then compile all the notes and make it whole.
its all on this site. this sites like grandaddy old
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: tripchip]
#8670250 - 07/23/08 01:57 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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thanks for the recipe koopa. presealable..?? thats what my bags are going to be (just orderd them) so i dont need a sealer for the bags? when i see these bags in my hands common sense should point me in the right direction im assuming. the only think is how do i get a wedge in the bag? i have to open them in a glove box and drop my wedge in the bag? it will work out like that? ill read the link you provided before i throw out anyu more questions. thanks
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: tripchip]
#8670271 - 07/23/08 02:05 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah i should be taking notes :-)
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: tripchip]
#8670277 - 07/23/08 02:08 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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they come in handy.
especially when somethin fucks up or you switch computers and all your favorites arent there anymore
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: tripchip]
#8670283 - 07/23/08 02:11 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Here's another one for you:
http://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/1910621#1910621
Click on this link and save it to your favorites. I made a folder in my favs labeled "Mycology".
There's a lot in one place here. SOME of it is crap, but you'll figure it out by "listening" to everyone else!
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: BrandNewbie]
#8670292 - 07/23/08 02:15 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey tripchip, have 5 for your discourse!
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: just me]
#8670308 - 07/23/08 02:24 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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i will be documenting mostly when i start with procedures and things so if something goes wrong i can review what i have done. i am currently living with someone else right now so i am going to master some legal edible mushroom cultivation for now and in the future try a batch of some cubes. this is a cool hobby and i want to master every aspect then come up with my own teks and stuff. my first cube grow was when i was 14yrs old out of a 2 liter bottle following the old school PF TEK. Since then i had a few small grows here and there. I have learned a lot from this website. I plan on contriuting back my knowlege to others as i progress in this hobby. its funny shrooms got brought up at my cousins wedding with a dude i didnt really know that well and he said he could get some good shrooms and he knew they were good because they had these "gold flakes on the stems" LOL i just smiled and said "wow i heard those gold flakes were good" ofcourse i knew that it was only some vermiculite that got stuck to the stems. I didnt bother getting into growing though with this guy. some people just have 0 clue as to how a shroom is created.
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: tripchip]
#8670314 - 07/23/08 02:26 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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the new "mycology" favorites folder has been made! 
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: tripchip]
#8670333 - 07/23/08 02:31 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Goldshlager shrooms, hhmmnn.
If you grow enough edibles, you might be able to add another type or two in there without "someone else" even realizing it.
Although, I eventually want to be successful with morels. THAT would kick ass.
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: BrandNewbie]
#8670348 - 07/23/08 02:35 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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one of my goals is to make a wedding-cake style BRF cake. start with a big cake and stack em up. i just think it would looke sweet. i have always had this dream about it...
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: tripchip]
#8670352 - 07/23/08 02:36 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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PLEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEASE post pics of this.
go check out some of RR's wierd experiments
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: just me]
#8670366 - 07/23/08 02:40 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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yeah when i do it there will be pics. and it will be some cubes. if anyone has seen this before let me know! i will go down in the history books for one of my wacky ideas :-)
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: tripchip]
#8670368 - 07/23/08 02:41 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Don't tell anyone around here, but I do cakes. You know, Wilson equipment...
Not very masculine, but I'm pretty okay at it.
A shroom "cake" would be cool. (If RR reads this, he might beat you to it!) Check out his unique grow pictures. Cool stuff.
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: BrandNewbie]
#8670373 - 07/23/08 02:43 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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is there an echo in here
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: BrandNewbie]
#8670377 - 07/23/08 02:44 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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where can i find his unique grow pictures? got a link? anyone want to have a "cake of the year contest"?? the most creative looking cake with fruits wins!
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: tripchip]
#8670388 - 07/23/08 02:46 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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i do bronze molds and i filled one with brf, then chipped the pocelain away and fruited it.
its a woman in a yoga position with mushrooms fruiting from all over her.
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: tripchip]
#8670401 - 07/23/08 02:49 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Hey justme! You type faster than just... ...me. lol
Are you referring to marzipan fruits that have been colored with powders? I'll go!
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: BrandNewbie]
#8670404 - 07/23/08 02:50 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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im a robot thats why
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: tripchip]
#8670409 - 07/23/08 02:51 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
tripchip said: where can i find his unique grow pictures? got a link?
Do a search for Roger Rabbit. Click on his name. Scroll to the bottom of his bio and click on users gallery. Awesome stuff.
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: BrandNewbie]
#8670412 - 07/23/08 02:53 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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good idea.
havent done that yet
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: just me]
#8670419 - 07/23/08 02:54 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Quote:
just me said: im a robot thats why
Now I'm thinking of a movie that has Woody Allen in it. YOU DON"T REMEMBER IT, because you weren't born yet! See, there are advantages to being an old timer! lol
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: BrandNewbie]
#8670434 - 07/23/08 02:58 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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tell me the mooby and ill tell YOU whether ive seen it or not
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: just me]
#8670447 - 07/23/08 03:03 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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ANYONE HERE USE P2P DOWNLOADING?? FOR LIKE MOVIES AND MUSIC?? LIKE BITCOMET AND STUFF?? IF SO JUST LET ME KNOW BECAUSE I HAVE A COOL LINK FOR YOU.. BUT YOU HAVE TO KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT WHEN I SAY P2P DOWNLOADING. I AM ONLY GOING TO PM YOU WITH THE DETAILS IF YOU KNOW WHAT IM TALKING ABOUT. DONT WANT TO POST PUBLIC ON THIS FOR CERTAIN REASONS.....
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: tripchip]
#8670451 - 07/23/08 03:04 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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i know exactly what you mean
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: just me]
#8670452 - 07/23/08 03:05 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Sleeper, 1970something. He was a robot.
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: BrandNewbie]
#8670455 - 07/23/08 03:07 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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youre right i DONT know that one 
dude, we fuck up threads late at night.
good thing its on cool n00bs threads, and they dont get bitchy.
potatochip ur alright in my book!
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: BrandNewbie]
#8670457 - 07/23/08 03:07 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Bronze molds are the shit. Did you take any pics? Have you ever used alginate? We are SO OT!
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: BrandNewbie]
#8670463 - 07/23/08 03:09 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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everynight.
they need to seperate us 
its not even late for me here, so i dont have an excuse!
i was just joshin ya bout the molds.
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: just me]
#8670473 - 07/23/08 03:15 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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Good idea though. Didn't someone do a Bhuda?
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: just me]
#8670475 - 07/23/08 03:16 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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justme i sent you a PM. I unleashed the secret on how to get a free 50 dollar dvd.. muahahaha. enjoy!
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Re: spawm bags for dummies VOL 1 [Re: tripchip]
#8671463 - 07/23/08 11:56 AM (16 years, 5 months ago) |
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i have no idea what p2p is 
unless its peir to peir but i doubt it.
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