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Government's bong ban 'will harm cannabis smokers' [AU]
#8266815 - 04/10/08 10:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Government's bong ban 'will harm cannabis smokers' April 10, 2008 - Herald Sun
THE Rann Government's ban on bongs will not stop drug use and could have dangerous flow-on effects on the health of pot smokers, according to users and experts.
The State Government last night passed tough new laws so anyone selling cannabis bongs or drug implements will face fines of up to $50,000 or two years in jail.
The laws cover the sale of implements such as hookahs, bongs, cocaine kits and pipes used to smoke deadly crystal methamphetamine, otherwise known as ice.
One local drug expert, pharmacology associate professor Rodney Irvine, said users will seek other ways to inhale smoke and that could be more dangerous.
"When you close one loophole another one emerges, a different pattern of use emerges," he said
"They'll make them out of anything, obviously.
"I would say that there's a possibility those alternative homemade ones will have some problems." Dr Irvine said smoking through a bong or water pipe was probably slightly less dangerous than using joints or pipes.
"Intuitively, I would say that smoking anything through a water pipe is a better option than smoking it in a joint or a spliff," he said.
"If you're smoking tobacco through a water pipe you've got cooler smoke. If there's cooler smoke, there are less volatile substances, therefore less tar."
Many cannabis smokers said they would simply make their own pipes from household goods.
SA Attorney-General Michael Atkinson said the legislation - introduced by independent MLC Ann Bressington - responded to the widespread public concern that paraphernalia intended for use with illicit drugs was freely available in South Australia.
"The Rann Labor Government has banned the bong,'' he said.
"Commercial outlets retailing drug paraphernalia in South Australia will now either have to shut up shop, as Smoke Signals at No. 34 Hindley Street has done, or find another line of business.''
Until now, courts had to establish, beyond reasonable doubt, that the person in possession of the equipment intended to use it in connection with preparing or consuming an illegal drug.
"To my knowledge just a handful of cases have been brought against commercial outlets selling drug paraphernalia because of the difficulty of proving that the seller intended the equipment be used in connection with preparing or consuming an illicit drug," Mr Atkinson said.
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Re: Government's bong ban 'will harm cannabis smokers' [AU] [Re: veggie]
#8267269 - 04/11/08 12:00 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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how can you ban a glass bottle?
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DarkLotus55
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Re: Government's bong ban 'will harm cannabis smokers' [AU] [Re: Groomies]
#8267571 - 04/11/08 01:03 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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I hope this doesn't happen all over the place...
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deXtrous
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Re: Government's bong ban 'will harm cannabis smokers' [AU] [Re: DarkLotus55]
#8268131 - 04/11/08 03:58 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Damn this fucking sucks... hopefully my bong doesn't break or its back to hose and plastic bottle for me
Edited by deXtrous (04/11/08 03:59 AM)
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Re: Government's bong ban 'will harm cannabis smokers' [AU] [Re: veggie]
#8268273 - 04/11/08 05:44 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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THE Rann Government's ban on bongs will not stop drug use and could have dangerous flow-on effects on the health of pot smokers, according to users and experts.
Since when has any government cared about the health of illegal drug users? Illegal drugs prevent people from using legal drugs which reduces to profits of legal drug manufacturers which reduce the kickbacks the politicians receive.
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Re: Government's bong ban 'will harm cannabis smokers' [AU] [Re: Seuss]
#8268437 - 04/11/08 07:44 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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does this apply to nsw? i hope not. haha.
most of the tobaccanists in my town have stopped selling them, but the hydro store still sells them, thank goodness. its getting harder and harder to find a conepeice in a store these days though. i shudder at thinking of going orchy again.
fruit is always a wasteful option, or a live humans skull. (peice in mouth, suck through nose)
its just a pipe, bah.
i thought it was sorta decriminalised in south australia.
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Re: Government's bong ban 'will harm cannabis smokers' [AU] [Re: Groomies]
#8268968 - 04/11/08 11:30 AM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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Groomies said: how can you ban a glass bottle?
because they say so, and no one will ever appose....if the day comes that people fight back...call me
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Re: Government's bong ban 'will harm cannabis smokers' [AU] [Re: Invisible_Woe]
#8270463 - 04/11/08 05:09 PM (15 years, 11 months ago) |
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australia is the evilest english speaking country by far
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illume
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Re: Government's bong ban 'will harm cannabis smokers' [AU] [Re: Coaster]
#8667249 - 07/22/08 11:08 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Fucking oath, I hate this place, The govenments are all like
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Stedanko
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Re: Government's bong ban 'will harm cannabis smokers' [AU] [Re: illume]
#8667349 - 07/22/08 11:32 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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What about tobacco pipes? Are these banned too? Seems like you may see a lot more sherlock holmes-loooking people down under if this is all they will have left.
What about the future generation of potheads?
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illume
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Re: Government's bong ban 'will harm cannabis smokers' [AU] [Re: Stedanko]
#8667409 - 07/22/08 11:45 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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lol no not tobacco pipes. although i think there is alredy a loophole that fucks the new law over.
I just bought a new bong mail order, but it was sold to me as a cream pourer lol
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Re: Government's bong ban 'will harm cannabis smokers' [AU] [Re: illume]
#8668019 - 07/22/08 02:29 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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They should just sell them as "cup with hole in it plus some weird thing we've never seen before."
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Re: Government's bong ban 'will harm cannabis smokers' [AU] [Re: learningtofly]
#8668538 - 07/22/08 05:41 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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one or two necked flask with buchner funnel and adapter, plus tube adapter on other neck, instant bong.
This whole thing is stupid.
The first bong I had I made myself.
They are simply fighting perception, they claim they don't like the appearance of them being sold, wtf?
What crap.... I guess when we finally get to banning tobacco they'll ban all smoking implements- cuz just like a bong is only for marijuana, a pipe is only for tobacco or marijuana.
I know plenty of folks who smoke weird legal shit out of pipes and bongs.... they are all dirty hippies, but the point remains.
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Re: Government's bong ban 'will harm cannabis smokers' [AU] [Re: johnm214]
#8669740 - 07/22/08 10:58 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I can still buy intact bongs from markets and tobacconists in Sydney...
This ban obviously didn't work so well.
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