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Iapetus: The solar system's greatest mystery?
#8654219 - 07/19/08 06:59 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon1.htm
It took me a few hours over two days to read and absorb the information presented here, but this moon has fascinated me ever since I saw it's odd shape and equatorial ridge. The site really explains the physics behind it, and what the geometric shape conforms to (carbon 60). The more enquiring minds on this site will be able to look at this and ask the same questions that I have asked.
The more I find out about this satelite orbiting Saturn, the more questions I have. An orbit more spherical than our moon, at such an odd angle? Iapetus is something that fascinates me more than any other object in the solar system with the possible exception of the sun.
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Re: Iapetus: The solar system's greatest mystery? [Re: Visionary Tools]
#8654532 - 07/19/08 10:15 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Amazing read. thank you for this.
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Re: Iapetus: The solar system's greatest mystery? [Re: Jack Albertson]
#8654770 - 07/19/08 11:25 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Yeah, I've been reading everything Hoagland has put out for the past few years. It took a LONG time before it all clicked and came together for me. Now it's like this entire alternate universe that I can sucked into. His moon/mars/iapetus/hyperdimensional-physics work is awesome.
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Re: Iapetus: The solar system's greatest mystery? [Re: Visionary Tools]
#8658403 - 07/20/08 11:02 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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thanks for the link, I get into anything this guy puts out, it stirs the imagination with the help of visual evidence.
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Re: Iapetus: The solar system's greatest mystery? [Re: cottlestonpie]
#8662993 - 07/21/08 12:20 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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The wall to me just looks like gravitational pull around the equator, its a moon orbiting saturn, boring but at the same time fascinating.
I think that we are ignorant to think that there isnt life out there/been there, in our solar system let alone the universe, & even more ignorant to think that a planet is less alive than we are...to me the play of the elements is life.
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Re: Iapetus: The solar system's greatest mystery? [Re: Visionary Tools]
#8663161 - 07/21/08 12:56 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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The universe is the seed. It grew into stars, then galaxies. The stars seeded planets in some cases, which some in turn seeded life. Each sucessive level of life has more intelligence and is further able to understand the universal seed, and things beyond the universe.
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Re: Iapetus: The solar system's greatest mystery? [Re: Visionary Tools]
#8663215 - 07/21/08 01:07 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I wasn't able to apreciate his work at first, I was too dismissive.
But I never claimed to know it all then, and the more I learn, the more I find there is to learn. But that's the fractal nature of things.
What I find fascinating about that is years ago I found out about these spheres mined out of 2.8 billion years old sedimentary/metamorphic rock
Here's an example
http://ufologie.net/htm/transvaalspheres.htm
Well, it's an interesting mystery. But then about page five of the Iapetus mystery, he shows one of these spheres, with a "death star" indentation on it, with the three equitorial grooves, compared to Iapteus.
Fuck me if they don't look very similar. I've always been dismissive of the "life on earth was seeded by spacefaring progenitors" and always found it a bit cliche, it's in so much scifi literature. It's about as plausible as life spontaniously happening from protolife mudpits or seabed thermal vents, or a big bearded bloke with a toga pushing some dirt together or just saying "There there be light, and things."
Sure, everything about Iapetus could be a coincidence. And the odds for that I imagine would be a very, very big number I couldn't comprehend with any significant meaning.
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Re: Iapetus: The solar system's greatest mystery? [Re: Visionary Tools]
#8663429 - 07/21/08 02:09 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Its all interelated.
I see life in this solar system as begining from our sun, but if you go deeper to where the sun comes from...eventually its impossible to separate any part of the universe from another, its ALL interelated.
But how does that article show that life on earth was started by spacefaring progenitors? I totally reckon its possible i just dont see how the article posted correlates with this?
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Re: Iapetus: The solar system's greatest mystery? [Re: Chronic7]
#8665107 - 07/21/08 09:30 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Thanks for posting this, very interesting.
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Re: Iapetus: The solar system's greatest mystery? [Re: Chronic7]
#8665282 - 07/21/08 09:57 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Quote:
Chronic777 said: ...to me the play of the elements is life.
There we go!
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Re: Iapetus: The solar system's greatest mystery? [Re: Ginseng1]
#8665503 - 07/21/08 10:29 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Heres a video of the new up-close pictures taken of Iapetus.
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After reading up on Hoagland it seems hes sincere in his work, but a bit too far fetched at times. Anybody catch his article on the head found on the moon? He was found to be overlapping pictures in order to come up with an image of a robotic head found on the surface of the moon. Although Iapetus is a very interesting moon, I really dont see anything that is undeniable proof of artificial structure.
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Re: Iapetus: The solar system's greatest mystery? [Re: Chronic7]
#8666703 - 07/22/08 07:02 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Chronic777 said: Its all interelated.
I see life in this solar system as begining from our sun, but if you go deeper to where the sun comes from...eventually its impossible to separate any part of the universe from another, its ALL interelated.
But how does that article show that life on earth was started by spacefaring progenitors? I totally reckon its possible i just dont see how the article posted correlates with this?
It's not really something one can skim through, but part six includes this:
http://www.enterprisemission.com/moon6.htm Which is what I'm going to read today.
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Re: Iapetus: The solar system's greatest mystery? [Re: Visionary Tools]
#8666796 - 07/22/08 07:48 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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The theories for the moon being artificial sound pretty wacked out, even to me! An instrument of war? Holocaust in the heavens? W. T. F!
Its a moon no? A bity of rock orbiting around a planet in order for the planet to possibly one day harbour life? To me thats what the purpose of moons are, to assit in the creation of life on the neighbouring planet.
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Re: Iapetus: The solar system's greatest mystery? [Re: Chronic7]
#8667219 - 07/22/08 10:55 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Saying it's a bit of rock is like saying the mona lisa is some oil n pigments on canvas.
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Re: Iapetus: The solar system's greatest mystery? [Re: Visionary Tools]
#8668780 - 07/22/08 06:40 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Even though his theories can reach the deep end of thought, I enjoy reading his writings because he brings character and life into the universe that nasa claims to be deserted and baran and nothing worth noting. I mean how long was everyone told that mars was just this boring red planet. Now not only is there ice and amazing geology, but there are these giant dark holes in the flat plains where liquid water and the proper temperature could lie. After reading the conversation with bob thread, does anyone else think that if Iapteus is a giant spacecraft then it could be the giant computer that houses the population of billions of universes like bob talked about?
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Re: Iapetus: The solar system's greatest mystery? [Re: cottlestonpie]
#8669254 - 07/22/08 08:39 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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well said. and to answer your question, why not? ive never been to saturn so i couldnt say a definite yes.
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