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Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD at Camp Bisco [NY]
    #8669185 - 07/22/08 10:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Man busted for large amout of LSD
July 22, 2008 - wnyt.com

SCHENECTADY - An Oregon man is sitting in a Schenectady County jail cell after being arrested over the weekend at the Camp Bisco Music Festival.

There were thousands of music lovers on hand for the three-day festival in Mariahville and police say Jonathan Taylor had more than enough LSD to go around -- about 14,000 hits of acid. The Portland man is charged with three counts of criminal possession of a controlled substance, two of which are felonies.

"We're not sure how he got it over the check points, but he did. That's why security is here to ride around and the attendees too. They come here to have a good time. They don't need that kind of stuff," Bill Potter said.

Potter's family runs Indian Lookout Country Club. This is the second year they've hosted the Camp Bisco Music Festival. He says on Saturday night, the last night, some alert concert goers and some quick action by his security staff helped nab Taylor.

"We went down. When we found him he had these little things, what looked like papers, looked like art work. Come to find out they were acid," Potter said.

Potter says security escorted Taylor off the grounds and handed him over to state police.

After checking his car, police say they found 14,000 hits of LSD along with $17,000 in cash.

The allegations of trying to get others tripping on acid earned this Oregon man a trip to the county jail.

"Don't like it, that's what we try to stop it. Someday my kids might be up here and that guy could be trying to sell that stuff to my kids," Potter said.

Taylor is being held at the Schenectady County Jail without bail.



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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: veggie]
    #8669200 - 07/22/08 10:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: veggie]
    #8669203 - 07/22/08 10:27 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The feds are going to pick up that case.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Chemy]
    #8669219 - 07/22/08 10:32 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

So true^^
Think he might give names?


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: King Koopa]
    #8669246 - 07/22/08 10:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

jesus christ! 140 sheets! man, that guy wasnt playin around. what a sad day. thats a pretty nice bust there.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: PilzeEssen]
    #8669275 - 07/22/08 10:46 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

The feds are already grillin' his ass with a hot fire poker. :flipthebird: the feds.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: dill705]
    #8669379 - 07/22/08 11:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #8669411 - 07/22/08 11:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

wow hes fucked


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Newport101]
    #8669421 - 07/22/08 11:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

He's looking at 12.5 to 15.66 years on the Federal level:sad:

I'm looking up New York guidelines, maybe they'll be better and the Feds don't pick up this case:shrug:


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Chemy]
    #8669465 - 07/22/08 11:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

This festival was absolutley off the hook, there was so much L floating around that place


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Chemy]
    #8669469 - 07/22/08 11:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

seriously people who have that much LSD need to keep the shit low key and need to supply it to the world...i want some acid goddammit! i haven't seen a drop of it here in MI makes me sad


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Invisible_Woe]
    #8669486 - 07/22/08 11:45 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

14,000 hits wow i wish that good of a relationship with my chemist.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Invisible_Woe]
    #8669506 - 07/22/08 11:53 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I've been hearing that it's back in MI finally. A couple of my friends have scored some lately.

Unfortunately, I have not yet.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: dill705]
    #8669542 - 07/23/08 12:02 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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dill705 said:
I've been hearing that it's back in MI finally. A couple of my friends have scored some lately.

Unfortunately, I have not yet.




Where at?!


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: clorox]
    #8669561 - 07/23/08 12:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

look out portland heads, feds coming your way


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: impgl]
    #8669743 - 07/23/08 12:58 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

He's fucked. If he doesn't start talking he's ever more fucked. I bet money he talks, and gives names up. The feds will do anything to get it out of him. They know he has a good source to be able to have that much LSD...Unless of course the son of a bitch was putting very very small amounts on the blotter. In that case he deserves jail. :mad2:


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: MHbound]
    #8669783 - 07/23/08 01:13 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:lol:


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: MHbound]
    #8669832 - 07/23/08 01:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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MHbound said:
He's fucked. If he doesn't start talking he's ever more fucked. I bet money he talks, and gives names up. The feds will do anything to get it out of him. They know he has a good source to be able to have that much LSD...Unless of course the son of a bitch was putting very very small amounts on the blotter. In that case he deserves jail. :mad2:



If he was cooperating, this story would not be published.

Names don't make deals, the feds want buys, concrete cases.

Names and info will make deals if the information is of a murder, robbing crew or specific trafficking info that leads to hundreds of thousands in cash seized, or large amounts of yes drugs. If he does give up names, they will be freebies, I hope he knows that:nonono:


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Chemy]
    #8669861 - 07/23/08 01:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well thats what I meant by giving names. They'll make him make deals obviously.

I've seen articles published of some friends a few years ago, and they still rolled on people. They'll give time for everything to settle down in case someone caught wind of the bust, and let the guy gain trust back...Then setup another large deal/bust.

Also, they will make deals with just names. Not much of a deal for the one busted, but they make them start shouting names out. Then they'll just watch the 1-2 people that he rolls on, and see who else has given them this guys name. They will see if the dealers have a record, and if they do they know he is probably worth a look.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Invisible_Woe]
    #8670004 - 07/23/08 02:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Invisible_Woe said:
Quote:

dill705 said:
I've been hearing that it's back in MI finally. A couple of my friends have scored some lately.

Unfortunately, I have not yet.




Where at?!



i got some at blissfest way up north, but its the first time i've ever seen it in MI. probably all coming from Rothbury, hit up the festivals!
back on subject that sucks for him and the thousands of people he could've hooked up:nonono:


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: MHbound]
    #8670006 - 07/23/08 02:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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They come here to have a good time. They don't need that kind of stuff," Bill Potter said.




uh, yes, we do.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Phish_Dude]
    #8670011 - 07/23/08 02:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You from MI too?


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: coda]
    #8670103 - 07/23/08 02:37 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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coda said:
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They come here to have a good time. They don't need that kind of stuff," Bill Potter said.




uh, yes, we do.



i second that.:thumbup:
and yes im from northern MI, keep an eye out at the festivals, dunegrass is this weekend but i will not be going sadly:nonono:


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Phish_Dude]
    #8670215 - 07/23/08 03:40 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I just can't believe he let himself get caught :fishsmack:


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Phish_Dude]
    #8670806 - 07/23/08 09:56 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I love how they allow a musician to play with a giant pot leaf behind him, then can be quoted on a need to stop drugs from being sold to children.

Hypocrisy.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Prof. Astro]
    #8670818 - 07/23/08 10:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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"Don't like it, that's what we try to stop it. Someday my kids might be up here and that guy could be trying to sell that stuff to my kids," Potter said.




i bet his kids will be looking up dealers with a match, not the other way around.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Prof. Astro]
    #8670858 - 07/23/08 10:34 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

:earth:  :hulk: 
Psychedelics are tools which can assist us in the evolution of our consciousness.  They help us to communicate with the Earth.  I think our growth and connection to the Earth is linked in a way I don't have words for presently.

We need to start calling the illegalization of psychedelics for what it really is.

IT IS A WAR ON THE PLANET THAT LOVES US AND NEEDS OUR HELP.
IT IS A WAR ON OUR CONSCIOUSNESS.

I remember seeing a video that mentioned something interesting about the BULLSHIT orwellian "War on Terror",
I recall a fellow saying that the right side of your brain might be interpreting it as "War on Terra".  It sounds like reaching but we know Dick Cheney and his friends are behind this war.  We know that Dick Cheney doesn't give a fuck about this planet or any of the sentient beings that inhabit it.

If there is any justice D.C. and his oxygen-thief friends will not be allowed to reincarnate on this planet.

Earth does not want them here. 
All who make war upon the Earth and consciousness itself need to GO AWAY! FUCK THEM!

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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Phish_Dude]
    #8671331 - 07/23/08 01:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Damn that guy is in big trouble. Good luck to him.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: veggie]
    #8671450 - 07/23/08 01:51 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It sucks, but I don't see why he was carrying 14,000 hits in the first place.  Did he really expect on selling all that?  Even if he could, it wouldn't be smart... every patron of the festival would know him and that he's doing something illegal.

This is the problem with dealing - too risky.  It would be great to try acid, but I'm just thankful that we have mushrooms and that they're so easy to grow.  That way you could still trip and not have to involve anybody else in your personal affairs.  It would be really nice if LSD were easier to manufacture.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: pothead_bob]
    #8672360 - 07/23/08 05:26 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's not a war on drugs it's a war on personal freedom is what it is ok? Keep that in mind at all times, Thank you. - Bill Hicks


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Phish_Dude]
    #8672379 - 07/23/08 05:30 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Bummer


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: nymphenthogenic]
    #8672535 - 07/23/08 05:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Bob, LSD is nothing like mushrooms.  The experience is not even close to the same.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: DeadCheezy]
    #8673977 - 07/24/08 12:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

That's fine, and I've heard that before, but... if you couldn't obtain it or if it were really really difficult, which it is from my experience, would you rather have mushrooms or nothing?  That's my point.  At least there is an option in the line of psychedelic drugs.

I've never done acid before, but I could imagine that it would be a closer experience to mushrooms than, say, cocaine, or alcohol, right?


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    #8673984 - 07/24/08 12:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Chemy]
    #8674012 - 07/24/08 12:16 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I didn't say that LSD and mushrooms were as far apart as alcohol and cocaine.  I said mushrooms and LSD are probably closer than LSD and alcohol in terms of experience.  Or LSD and mushrooms are closer in experience than cocaine and LSD.

I mean they're classified under the same drug type... hallucinogens.  Cocaine is not even considered to be in that realm of drugs.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Chemy]
    #8674054 - 07/24/08 12:24 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Okay, because you didn't say it like that at first. 

I know that I have had trips that varied greatly while using mushrooms.  You're saying, though, that the LSD trips are trips that you could never achieve with mushrooms, correct?

But you're tripping, still, and could use that trip to think in different ways that you never would, to find things out about yourself and the world, to become grounded with your spiritual self, and so on.  Would you agree on that point even if the levels of experience were vastly different?


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: pothead_bob]
    #8674071 - 07/24/08 12:28 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Okay, because you didn't say it like that at first. 

I know that I have had trips that varied greatly while using mushrooms.  You're saying, though, that the LSD trips are trips that you could never achieve with mushrooms, correct?

But you're tripping, still, and could use that trip to think in different ways that you never would, to find things out about yourself and the world, to become grounded with your spiritual self, and so on.  Would you agree on that point even if the levels of experience were vastly different?



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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Chemy]
    #8674101 - 07/24/08 12:36 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Alright... it's difficult to know, not having experienced it myself. 

It's confusing when I've read trip reports from Timothy Leary's graduate students and one from Gordon Wasson.  Leary's students, of course, took LSD in varying quantities and Wasson took mushrooms.

Leary's students had trips that ranged from playful and mild sounding to ones where they couldn't move through the room because the energy was too thick and they were terrifed that they would never return to reality.  Wasson had a trip report that described him being transported to a heaven like place where he was a bird-god or something.  When he describes such an intense experience from Cubensis mushrooms, it's difficult to see where the difference lies.

I wonder how dosing plays into things, though.  What's the largest dose of mushrooms you've ever taken and what was the experience like?

Does the acid change your thought patterns in a different way than the mushrooms?  Is there still that sense of oneness that so often comes with mushrooms?  Are the visuals more intense?

I'd like to get a handle on the differences; although, I'll probably never have acid.  I've never heard of anybody selling it, and I'd be leary if I found somebody who was.  Manufacturing LSD is more than slightly more difficult than growing pot or mushrooms.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Chemy]
    #8675261 - 07/24/08 08:07 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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That's a very interesting way of describing it.  I haven't ever taken a very large dose yet, but I have noticed that to small degrees. 

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I've had that feeling one time, on mushrooms, but that discovery didn't come... at least not in full.  I just chalked it up to not taking enough :grin:

But maybe I just need another weapon in the arsenal. 

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That's something I wasn't aware of... I always thought it was rare.  I'll keep my eyes open, but I've never had a lot of luck finding drugs.  Except for Montreal, Canada... At night, the drugs just seem to flock to you for some reason.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: pothead_bob]
    #8676159 - 07/24/08 02:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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It sucks, but I don't see why he was carrying 14,000 hits in the first place.  Did he really expect on selling all that?  Even if he could, it wouldn't be smart... every patron of the festival would know him and that he's doing something illegal.




Where do you think the dudes walking around selling singal hits get their sheets and ten packs from man?

It's called a chain....and that guy was a little closer to the top than what's usually nabbed at a festy.  I'm sure he wasn't walkin around slingin single hits and ten strips, unless he was greedy.



The guy won't rat.  Once you get to the level he's at, you're on the front lines of the fucking war, and you know that while you're doing it.  You know you are fucked when you get caught, and you take that risk. Who knows though.






What really bothers me about this is the heat it will put on future fests.  I mean cops know that festys are drug havens, but this is going to help make them realize just how much.  This makes me uneasy.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: vandago]
    #8676768 - 07/24/08 05:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

no this kid was just stupid.
i was at that show, and this kid must have been a retard to get busted.  Or mabye it was illc just making good to the community, 7500spun kids with no incidents you gotta toss someone to the wolves.  But yea if your a tour rat, get a fucking hotel and leave some shit behind, there was no need to have that much dose at such a small show


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: vandago]
    #8677167 - 07/24/08 07:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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It's called a chain....and that guy was a little closer to the top than what's usually nabbed at a festy.  I'm sure he wasn't walkin around slingin single hits and ten strips, unless he was greedy.




Is there big demand for whole sheets of acid at a festival?  I'm not being cocky, I'm just asking. 

I would think your market would be single hits and 10's. 

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there was no need to have that much dose at such a small show




Yeah, at least leaving 80% back at a hotel or something would have been smarter.  If you need it, you could always go and get it.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: vandago]
    #8677168 - 07/24/08 07:12 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I forsee a lot of feds being planted at festivals all over, they are getting way too big and way too blatant about things.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
    #8677175 - 07/24/08 07:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Is there big demand for whole sheets of acid at a festival?  I'm not being cocky, I'm just asking.

I would think your market would be single hits and 10's.


 

Yea there is. If I want LSD to sell/dose people with or dose myself then I go to the closest festival. Its usually cheaper there, and more readily available than anywhere else.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
    #8677176 - 07/24/08 07:14 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I forsee a lot of feds being planted at festivals all over, they are getting way too big and way too blatant about things.



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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: MHbound]
    #8677204 - 07/24/08 07:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Its usually cheaper there, and more readily available than anywhere else




Well it looks like that's where I'll be finding my acid if I ever do.

I've heard of people getting bad or laced MDMA... considering how difficult it is to manufacture LSD, isn't there a risk of getting bad blotters?  This is one thing that concerns me about taking acid.  Well, that and never finding any, heh.


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    #8677265 - 07/24/08 07:38 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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They come here to have a good time. They don't need that kind of stuff," Bill Potter said.




uh, yes, we do.




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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: beebop]
    #8677530 - 07/24/08 09:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I've heard of people getting bad or laced MDMA... considering how difficult it is to manufacture LSD, isn't there a risk of getting bad blotters?  This is one thing that concerns me about taking acid.  Well, that and never finding any, heh.




There have been reports of people getting DOC's at festivals, and anywhere else for that matter. You just have to know who you are getting it from. Like at festivals someone(s) will say hey this guy has some good acid. So you know its legit. Just ask around and you'll find a good source. I've only gotten a DOx once, and it was because the tool that GAVE it to me said here I just don't want it anymore. Never said hey this obviously isn't acid.

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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: MHbound]
    #8679695 - 07/25/08 11:31 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

your more likely to get nothing, ie blank paper than an rc.  But depends on the crowd, look for the spunions and ask them whats up.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: coopypants]
    #8679955 - 07/25/08 01:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

That is shitty.  It makes me sick to think how fucked the legal system is. This guy will (sadly) get more time for this then someone who has killed someone.

I imagine very few people at a fest. are going to just get single hits.  I am not sure how long bisco is exactly. but I am sure people were at least getting enough to last them the whole time.

Plus you got people that want to stock pile for themselfs (I know for a fact people drive LONG distances to go to fests. and I am sure they dont want to leave empty handed).

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    #8682137 - 07/26/08 12:11 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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    #8693937 - 07/28/08 09:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

i say we just get high and see what he did wrong and learn...dont carry a ass load of LSD on you at one time ok???


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Invisible_Woe]
    #8699916 - 07/30/08 12:43 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

lol. i just realized that most of you people don't REALLY know where your drugs come from or how hard it is to get into your hands :lol:


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    #8699924 - 07/30/08 12:45 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Most people don't REALLY know where they come from. You don't know where yours derived from.

I think most people have an idea how hard it is. Think of the cartels building a submarine to smuggle cocaine in. I wish I knew where it came from...I'd be a millionaire.


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    #8700090 - 07/30/08 01:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

There's a huge demand for sheets at a fest.  I'd rather not get into details on an open forum, but a fest supplies, and demands, and it will ALWAYS supply whatever yuo need if you talk to the right people.......it just sucks when the right people talk to the wrong people.


Trust me if people didn't go to fests with the amount that guy did, fests would be dry halfway through saturday.  You have no idea what moves through those lots.


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    #8700102 - 07/30/08 01:25 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Hell yea they do. I found my LSD connection a 5-6 years back at a festival, and they had vials and vials. Bought a vial, and started a awesome connection...Until they got busted. Most dealers end up going down, and its sad.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: MHbound]
    #8701111 - 07/30/08 09:23 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I know where my drugs come from... domestically grown.  Of course, I only smoke weed and take mushrooms.

I always hear about how much pot come from Mexico, but I wonder if that's just a way for the media to turn people against illegal immigrants.  Every time I got weed, since like 8 years ago, it was grown by friends locally.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: pothead_bob]
    #8702796 - 07/30/08 04:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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I know where my drugs come from... domestically grown.  Of course, I only smoke weed and take mushrooms.

I always hear about how much pot come from Mexico, but I wonder if that's just a way for the media to turn people against illegal immigrants.  Every time I got weed, since like 8 years ago, it was grown by friends locally.




Are you serious man?  There is no way to know exactly how much pot comes through from mexico, but it's thousands upon thousands of tons a year, if not more.  Ever heard of schwag? 

Also, there is a massive amount of meth and coke transported to the US from mexico as well.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: kindadank]
    #8703128 - 07/30/08 06:15 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

As I said, I'm not talking about meth and coke... I said I only smoke pot. 

Schwag just means low grade weed.  It doesn't refer to any particular strain or origin of the weed.

I was just saying that I've always smoked domestic and was wondering how much weed actually did come from Mexico, but since you ran off the numbers, I thought I'd take a look for myself.  I found this chart:



Estimates of total US marijuana consumption range from 9-22 metric tonnes, which is between 10,000 and 24,000 short tons.

This was my point... the way the media makes it out, it sounds like all the pot comes from Mexico and if we just put up a fence, all our drug problems will stop.  Turns out that over half of the weed consumed in America, comes from America.  And if you put up a wall, it will just drive up prices, giving incetive for more people to grow weed.  It's all just supply and demand.

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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: pothead_bob]
    #8703162 - 07/30/08 06:20 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Canada grows way more than 2%. Perhaps 2% of total seizures occur at that border, but being in Michigan, I can firmly tell you that that number is very off.

The Canadian border has shit for patrol in comparison to the Mexican boreder.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: dill705]
    #8703189 - 07/30/08 06:25 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I didn't look at the chart, but I'd say most comes from within the US. A lot does come from Mexico though...Very close to half. They just seized a 18 wheeler with like 3 tons an hour away from me...From Mexico. I like on the east coast too.


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    #8703204 - 07/30/08 06:28 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I thought the number was low, too... I always thought Canada exported a lot more weed, but that statistic is from the RCMP.  The US dept. of Justice backs the numbers.  I'm just quoting the source.  If you know of another one that has different numbers, please quote it as that was the only source I found.

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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: pothead_bob]
    #8703256 - 07/30/08 06:39 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I'm only quoting my experience. I live just outside Detroit and I almost always hear that the stff I get is from the area or from Canadia. :shrug:

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    #8703347 - 07/30/08 06:59 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Well if you live in Detroit, then I'm sure most of you weed is actually from Canada or Michigan.  Just considering the proximity of the country, that's probably true.  All the weed from mexico probably get's consumed before it gets north of Kansas.  We all know how they like their weed down in the bible-belt, after all.  :grin:


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: pothead_bob]
    #8703425 - 07/30/08 07:18 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Nope, mexi-weed finds it's way up here, mostly be the mexicans.

I grew up in a farm town kust outside out the suburbs and I've seen some pretty nasty shit that the mexicans in my town sell to other mexicans.

That's how I cornered the market back in the day. :hehehe:


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: dill705]
    #8703490 - 07/30/08 07:34 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

How do you know they weren't growing domestically?

You know, I never understood why such shitty weed alledgedly comes from Mexico.  If you're going to go through all the trouble smuggling it in, wouldn't you want to smuggle in high quality buds?  You know, the most concentrated amounts of THC so that you could get the most drugs in and the most money for them?


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: pothead_bob]
    #8703709 - 07/30/08 08:19 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Man, I'm not really sure what you are talking about.  I have no idea of the actual total US annual marijuana consumption, but I'm sure it is orders of magnitude greater than whatever figures the government puts out.  Even if they only supply around half of the US total consumption, that is a FUCK load of pot.  And dude, there is no alledgedly about it.  Anyone who lives near the US/Mexico border can prove this quite easily if they have a good hookup.  I've heard pounds can easily go for under $250, and this is just buying singles!  Then, magically as you move further and further north, the price goes up and up.  It's really pretty easy to see.

Either way, it's pretty damn easy to tell what weed comes from mexico.  Like I said, schwag or regs or whatever the hell you want to call it is that weed.  It is easily identifiable due to the fact that it usually smells like shit, has been compressed as much as humanly possible, and it usually has lots of seeds.  Another factor is the price.  If it is schwag, it's going to be very cheap.  Obviously there are going to be some small variations in this, but if you have any experience with different kinds of buds you can spot it in a second.

Also, I am quite sure that plently of the mexi brick weed makes it all over the US.  The reason that it is imported and distributed throughout the country is that it doesn't cost them shit to grow it in mexico, so the cartels make MASSIVE amounts of money by selling it everywhere they can.  There is always a market for it, because it is the cheapest shit you can buy.  Not everyone can afford to spend $50 for an eighth of weed.

As to the question of why they don't just grow better weed and import that, it's because they don't have to.  This way probably works out better economically because they just let that shit grow outside and don't take care of it, dry it out, brick it up, and then let it sit around for however long until it makes it to its destination.  Also, since it is bricked up, they can import much more at a time and conceal it easier.

Anyone that grows domestically is going to treat their product with alot more care than the mexicans would.  The main difference is that they would not need to compress it into bricks, because they don't need to cross any international borders with it.

There are tons of mids that are grown in the US, but I can say with nearly complete confidence that none or virtually none of these end up looking like the mexican brick shit.

There is no conspiracy about it.  The Mexican cartels grow and smuggle MASSIVE amounts of shitty pot into the US.  It is a fact.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: kindadank]
    #8703804 - 07/30/08 08:40 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Alright, man, settle down... I never said there was a conspiracy.  If you read my post like 2 up, you'll see I said that the Mexicans are responsible for exporting up to 11,000 metric tonnes of marijuana into the US.  So how is it that I'm saying that they don't bring weed to the US?


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: kindadank]
    #8703916 - 07/30/08 09:11 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, the only argument was from me and it was about the Canadian statistic.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: pothead_bob]
    #8704705 - 07/31/08 12:08 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

It's cool man.  Not trying to be a dick about it or anything.

In some of your posts it seemed to me that you were implying that you didn't believe that mexicans supplied a large portion of the supply in the US.  Of course a very large amount is also grown in the US. 

All I was trying to get at was it seemed like you really underestimated how much comes over the border down south and makes its way around the country.  Obviously even if the supply was somehow cut off 100% from mexico, there would still be plenty to go around.  There would just be a lot less shitty, cheap weed.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: kindadank]
    #8706283 - 07/31/08 09:06 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yes, originally I was skeptical about how much came in, but after you told me, I checked it out and saw your numbers were pretty close to the estimates.  I'm not sayin you're a dick, haha, just saying, yes, I believe you.  Like I was saying before, if we didn't get it from Mexico, I think the price would go up temporarily, but somehow the supply would go up - either by importation from Canada, or with more domestic growing.  Drug people seem pretty resourceful to me.

I still don't understand why the Mexicans only ship shitty weed, though.  I understand where you're coming from with it being easier for them and all, but the labor is so cheap for them down there, I think it wouldn't be much more expensive for the cartels to have peasents go and rip out the male plants, and then clean up the buds a little.  When I see brick weed on TV, it looks like it has all low-grade, trim leaf and shit chopped up in it.

Did you ever see the movie American Gangster?  I'm thinking it's like that.  They guy went straight to Vietnam to get the heroin from the source.  It turned out to be 100% pure, so he had the best product on the streets, but he was still able to undercut the competition by a shitload since he was getting it right from Vietnam.  I would think that the Mexicans could do it similarly. 

For a little more effort, they could get a lot more money for their product, with only a minimal price increase to the consumer.  Plus, they would be able to smuggle a lot more drugs in because the drugs would be more concentrated after removing the shit and only growing sinsemilla crops that don't have seeds.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: pothead_bob]
    #8706301 - 07/31/08 09:14 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Chemy]
    #8706307 - 07/31/08 09:22 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I see where you're coming from, but how much extra could it cost the growers to just rip out the male plants?

They obviously have to pay people to harvest the plants, and I'm sure they're not paying them much.  Why not just have them rip out the males and then charge like an extra $25-$50 per pound?  Once the dealer breaks that into eighths, there should barely be any price increase.  I think even a poor person would be willing to pay an extra buck or two for a vastly better type-o-weed.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: pothead_bob]
    #8706317 - 07/31/08 09:33 AM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Chemy]
    #8707293 - 07/31/08 03:01 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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logistical problems with compression and transportation




Most definitely true. No shrugs about it, man.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: dill705]
    #8707383 - 07/31/08 03:16 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Yup and there's always the old saying, if it ain't broke don't fix it.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: kindadank]
    #8707423 - 07/31/08 03:21 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I thnk that the Brown Frown is broken. :crazy2:


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: kindadank]
    #8713209 - 08/01/08 07:08 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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Yup and there's always the old saying, if it ain't broke don't fix it.




That works in research and design, but not in business.  If entrepenuers didn't try different things, they'd never increase their profits and business.  Maybe Mexican drug cartels just don't have the business logic and drive of their American counterparts.  :shrug:

What logistical problem are you thinking about?  I don't see why you can't compress sinsimilla buds just as easily as seeded-out buds with loads of shitty fan leaves mixed in.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: pothead_bob]
    #8715917 - 08/02/08 01:41 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

You're not a farmer are you bob?


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: ChiefThunderbong]
    #8715929 - 08/02/08 01:42 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Your assumption isn't totally accurate.  Please expand on your insinuation.


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    #8716008 - 08/02/08 01:58 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

I still don't know what you're getting at.  If you start with a shitty weed and press it down, it's going to hurt the grade of that weed.  If you start with a better weed then, sure, pressing it down will hurt the grade just as before.  But it's still going to be much better than the weed that's full of seeds and ton's of leaf material.  And all the cartels would have had to do was rip out the male plants and maybe cut out the larger, easier to get at leaves on the females during harvest. 

By the way, they wouldn't be producing top shelf.  To get top shelf, you have to spend lots of time manicuring each bud to get all the trim off.  There's no way they would do that for 11,000 metric tons of pot when top shelf is already available in the states.  They'd basically be producing a mid-grade weed as opposed to the shit, brick weed they produce now.


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Chemy]
    #8716018 - 08/02/08 02:00 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

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The next time you have some top shelf (what you guys call dank) with nice full buds and crystals, take the whole bag, and bud by bud squeeze each bud until you flatten it out, and can no longer see any trikes, then bag it back up and try to sell it, before you do that though scrape your fingers and smoke that shit.




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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: Chemy]
    #8716104 - 08/02/08 02:23 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Whether they want to improve their soil or fert is of little concern because that will primarily work to increase yields.  So if they do it, then they'll be better off either way because they'll either be able to sell more garbage or more good weed.  Either way, they'll make more money.

One of my points is that just because people are buying your product is no reason to stop trying to make a better product.  That's how companies continue to turn larger profits.  And getting rid of male plants is probably the single best way to improve the potency of weed.  Ontop of that, it's probably the easiest thing you could do to increase your profit margin.


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wtf you talking about?



How to ruin bud through compression.




Easily but IMO. The Mexican weed isn't much good by itself compared to now a-days. Compressing it would only make the trichromes come together to produce a hash like leaf/bud material.


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    #8716260 - 08/02/08 03:13 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

What does any of that have to do with the 14,000 hits of acid that were seized?


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Re: Man busted for 14,000 hits of LSD [NY] [Re: FurrowedBrow]
    #8716382 - 08/02/08 03:48 PM (12 years, 10 months ago)

Haha, I forgot that's what this thread was originally about.  I guess the subject veered off course when we were started talking about where drugs come from.


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