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is something wrong?
    #8663211 - 07/21/08 01:05 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

so i looked threw the posts and a lot of people said to turn ur jars upside down if they are to wet so I did. I dont know if they look right they are kind of lose in the jars as if the got really compact and very small buy this is my first time so i really have no idea

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/ll363/megalon101/P1040021.jpg

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/ll363/megalon101/P1040019.jpg


and this was my first time growing this is all i got none have grown and its been like 5 days can some one tell me if i did something wrong all i did was dunk for 6 hours after the little ones grew

http://i313.photobucket.com/albums/ll363/megalon101/P1040013.jpg



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Re: is something wrong? [Re: cashus]
    #8663247 - 07/21/08 01:16 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

it looks as though you had too much water in your substrate before sterilizing them.. how EXACTLY did you prepare your jars?

people say that flipping the jars helps with gas exchange (not FAE) and helps slowing jars grow faster.. I have seen such posts, and the results are nil, if any..

do you have them in an incubator? I have found that an incubator can cause the substrate to basically sweat out water, making it puddle..

and turning the jar upside down just spills the water on whatever filter you have, and can possibly lead to a contam issue.. 

that mushy in the 3rd pic is fuckin nuts.. good shit..

oo yeah.. they tend to get loose sometimes when they colonize, because the substrate shrinks... its normal...

keep up zee good work

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Re: is something wrong? [Re: cashus]
    #8664139 - 07/21/08 05:49 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Your cakes are probably getting smaller because the mycelium is breaking down the grains as it eats them. I left a jar alone for a few months and the cake shrunk quite a bit. When I finally took it out, the seeds had been turned into this big brick of moosh that resembled what would happen if you left cereal in milk overnight and then squished it all together. Those cakes look like they have been going for a while.

Be patient with your fruiting cake. As long as you are giving it fresh air, moisture and a little light, you should see more pins.


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Re: is something wrong? [Re: Phraggle]
    #8664247 - 07/21/08 06:17 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

your cakes need to be birthed , also you prob used coarse verm (get a piece of verm and squeeze it) try fine-med grade


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[quote]RogerRabbit said:
You don't need to drill a lot of holes.  Some growers choose to fan several times per day instead.
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Re: is something wrong? [Re: cashus]
    #8664306 - 07/21/08 06:38 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Your myc ate up all the verm, hence the shrinkage.  This is a good thing.  You should dunk for @ LEAST 12 hours. Should roll in verm since they have no more food and water...



^^^ My buddy birthed this cake when it was only 70% colonized. The top of the cake was the uncolonized part left on, NOT removed.  This is the cake after dunk and roll less than 5 days in FC. humidity 95%, FAE 5-6 times daily...
*****ALSO, coarse verm was used for the above cake.  Verm in a blender=faster colonization time though****

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Re: is something wrong? [Re: Jenkins22]
    #8664427 - 07/21/08 07:04 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Mycellium doesn't eat verm. Nothing eats verm - it's inert. The only food source for PF cakes is the brf. Cakes are rolled in verm to give them an outer moisture reservoir which can be refilled regularly with misting.


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Re: is something wrong? [Re: PowerOfTheCoir]
    #8664448 - 07/21/08 07:07 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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PowerOfTheCoir said:
Mycellium doesn't eat verm. Nothing eats verm - it's inert. The only food source for PF cakes is the brf. Cakes are rolled in verm to give them an outer moisture reservoir which can be refilled regularly with misting.




:whatever: .......coarse(let me say this again , COARSE!!) grade verm , if it is very coarse, will compact


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[quote]RogerRabbit said:
You don't need to drill a lot of holes.  Some growers choose to fan several times per day instead.
RR [/quote]

Edited by wickedsick (07/21/08 07:07 PM)

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Re: is something wrong? [Re: wickedsick]
    #8664469 - 07/21/08 07:11 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

What do you mean? What are you trying to say? Are you recommending not to use coarse verm, wickedsick?

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Re: is something wrong? [Re: Mad River]
    #8664577 - 07/21/08 07:33 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

wickedsick  you are right about the "need to be birthed" thing but stroke your smiley face dong all you want the dude is right ... Myc. does not eat verm ....  if all you are saying is that course will compact then thats different but copping a "verm was eaten" post to back you up just spreads misinformation and leaves noobs confused saying      "dude add more verm the mush will get bigger they need food man"
not trying to hate man just :crazy: 

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Re: is something wrong? [Re: cashus]
    #8664621 - 07/21/08 07:43 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

my bad, bars is kickn in. Myc tightens up. i'm not saying it eats anything. It's easier to get outta the jar and needs to be rehydrated and it'll puff back up. srry, didn't mean to miss inform you guys, your right but so am i

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Re: is something wrong? [Re: Jenkins22]
    #8665492 - 07/21/08 10:27 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

duly noted my friend......so long as things get cleared up then all info is good.  they should know that "cakes" do shrink in jars but to also know that the Myc is not eating the verm.  :crazy2:

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Re: is something wrong? [Re: cashus]
    #8669287 - 07/22/08 08:49 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

ok so this is what the jars look like now they look like there almost fully colonized but after i turned them the next day or so they started to grow this white fuzz around the places that haven't been fully colonized it was hard to take pic but this is the best i could do







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Re: is something wrong? [Re: cashus]
    #8669316 - 07/22/08 08:55 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Dude, those pics are way too small. I'm going to have to bust out my magnifying glass...

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Re: is something wrong? [Re: Mad River]
    #8669479 - 07/22/08 09:43 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

ah beautiful sarcasm at play, love it..almost colonized..remember let it sit a week so it can digest


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some 1 told me to try long brown rice and water and vermiculite and pressure cook for 1 hour i did but nothing happen that is y was wonting to no if i need spores
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Re: is something wrong? [Re: Izangi]
    #8669652 - 07/22/08 10:31 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

those cakes seem like their knotting, thats what the fuzzy growth is. They need to be birthed. I would never flip my jars to remove excess water because that would moisten your filter breeding contams, really bad idea.


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Re: is something wrong? [Re: bootedboy]
    #8669803 - 07/22/08 11:18 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Izangi said:
ah beautiful sarcasm at play, love it..almost colonized..remember let it sit a week so it can digest



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Dude, those pics are way too small. I'm going to have to bust out my magnifying glass...





fuckin birth the damn cake :angrykidface:


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You don't need to drill a lot of holes.  Some growers choose to fan several times per day instead.
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Re: is something wrong? [Re: wickedsick]
    #8670058 - 07/23/08 12:22 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

No, no, no. Chill out on the rush to birth. There's still a smidge of uncolonized substrate in that pic. Wait until the cake is 100% colonized (not even 99.7%) and then take Izangi's wise advice about leaving them for an additional week in the jars before birthing. I know you've got to be getting impatient, but birthing them early won't speed up anything - it'll just give them time to dry out and collect contaminant spores while they chill for a week.

You're getting aerial rhizos in the area that has colonized since the jars were flipped. This is simply because all of the other areas were colonized when they were pressed firmly against the jar. Just leave it alone this time and don't flip next time.


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Re: is something wrong? [Re: PowerOfTheCoir]
    #8670151 - 07/23/08 01:00 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

thank you for the helpful information that really helped out alot ill take a pic of them when some little guys come out so i can see how i did


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Re: is something wrong? [Re: cashus]
    #8670989 - 07/23/08 09:30 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

For the record, I would concur with PoweroftheCoir. :yesnod:

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