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my honey water is funk
    #8657135 - 07/19/08 11:45 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

alright, so this is the first time using this honey.

its maui brand.

this is also the first time i put the honey in cold water instead of hot.

after PC'ing for about 30 minutes.

my honey water looks like ive already injected ss and got contams.

i know its sterile due to the PC, but wtf.

also. if i have contamed jars is a simple wash sufficent if i plan on PC'ing when the honey water or brf or grains are in there???


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: just me]
    #8657262 - 07/20/08 12:38 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

you caramelised it that's all

It happens to me all the time and still have success

next time pc for 15 to 20 mins


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8657276 - 07/20/08 12:42 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Any contam jar I have goes in the bin, but I would not just wash and use it, pc it first then wash and use it :wink:

Well thats what I would do any way.


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8657278 - 07/20/08 12:45 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Yeah, caramelisation is fine, it just makes growth more difficult to see.

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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: wisp]
    #8657451 - 07/20/08 01:52 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

ok. well i wont throw them out yet.

but they are baby bottles from previouse LC's that showed no signs of growth, just sediment on the bottom.

one LC had definate contam with trich like stuff and that bottle is going to the trash.

but these 3 in question were just showing no growth so i dumped them. washed them. honey water and then PC'd them, now theyre camelized.

after all this you still vote ok for use?


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: just me]
    #8657468 - 07/20/08 01:59 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

yes i vote use them....try using colonized agar to inoculate the lc not ms :wink:


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8657472 - 07/20/08 02:00 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

maybe next time :P

im actually not using ms, im using prints.

im gonna make this menace print work damnit!


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: just me]
    #8657498 - 07/20/08 02:13 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

:rofl2: sorry but what do you think ms is?


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8658779 - 07/20/08 12:42 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

we will fight.

multiple spores...spores from mushrooms...prints from mushrooms...spore prints...


:imspecial: so STFU!!!


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: just me]
    #8659047 - 07/20/08 02:02 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

The LC tek I have read you dont PC the honey, just the jars / water.

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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: infestedpasta]
    #8659294 - 07/20/08 02:56 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

yeah its ok to pc the honey in the water, just like they said 30 minutes was too long.

i got a new burner so it PC much better than the old one, and i didnt take this into consideration,

im starting new ones tho, camellized or not, ok or not, i dont like seeing a 1/2 of sediment in the bottom of my baby bottles!

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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: just me]
    #8663811 - 07/21/08 04:15 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

no probs mate :wink:


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8672241 - 07/23/08 03:00 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

hmmmm, now im wondering if it is infact camelization or just the honey im using.

its as close to raw as it comes.

i only PC'd for 10 minutes this time. turned on high till pressure sealed. then when the rocker started turned to medium for 10 minutes then turned burner off and moved it to a cold burner.

and its STILL honey sediment on the bottoms.

and this time i added the honey to hot water and it dissolved right away and looked beautiful, but then i PC'd and this...


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: just me]
    #8676610 - 07/24/08 02:41 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

stop stressing its normal mate :wink:
and honey is raw it comes from the hive to the jar ...you can not get it any more raw than that.....unless you pc pollen lol


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: just me]
    #8676618 - 07/24/08 02:42 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

it this possible ^

that its just the honey?

cuz i dont think i could PC for any less amount of time and it do a dam thing...

i really dont wanna just do the boil although its worked for me b4, i like the fancy feelin of usin the PC


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: just me]
    #8676670 - 07/24/08 02:54 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

You can try other honey but the same thing will happen
like I said its normal, it will still work perfect.
dont try pc less either just add a colonized agar wedge in the lc wait a few days shake and thats it


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8676766 - 07/24/08 03:18 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

but it DOESnt happen with other honey, never has.

maybe i will try these out and see, but...

fuck i dont know...i dont know what ta do


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: just me]
    #8676817 - 07/24/08 03:29 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

ha ha ha lol I dont know what else you want me to tell you .....I said it will work, its fine all my lc's are like that and they are perfect.

honey is like 2 clams a jar just buy some more and see how they go ....but IMO they will all turn out with sediment.....use karo or potato and see how they go


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8677776 - 07/24/08 08:33 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

i got more honey :lol:

i had to go into town for ferts anyway.

i ALMOST got karo, but not too familiar with it.

and nothin in hawaii is two clams :lol:

anyway juke the only reason i kept on with this is so i could see your avatar over and over


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: just me]
    #8678005 - 07/24/08 09:22 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

aaaahahahahahahah lol well her name is
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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8678064 - 07/24/08 09:37 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

It's almost like this guy was just posting and not listening..  You were told about 6-7 times it's fine it's normal go ahead and use it but it seems as if you were just ignoring the help that was posted...

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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: Damion5050]
    #8678158 - 07/24/08 10:00 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

listen here buddy!

j/k

but seriously i heard them, and ive known that carmellization is ok.

but after testing several differnt times and whatnot i could rule that out. or so i thought, so i continued to ask. and it turns out it IS the honey.

ive had many successful LC's and this was the first time using this honey. so it may be camelized, but it does so much easier than the other honeys.

Juke. what was up with all the crossed out shit, and the black bar?

and take that quote out of your sig b4 we go at it :lol:


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: just me]
    #8678168 - 07/24/08 10:04 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

they are codes fun yeah :wink:

I wont remove it but I have changed the name :wink:


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8678181 - 07/24/08 10:10 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

thats robaneros pins on your sig huh?

arent those GORGEOUS

im gonna laugh my ass off if they still get HUGE


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    #8678187 - 07/24/08 10:13 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

yeah man sure are :wink:
its pretty cool yeah, i bet they will get bigger, I wonder if they will get a second flush or if that pin set will gobble every last nute out of that sub ??


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8678194 - 07/24/08 10:15 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

idk, but i would gobble every last pin :crazy2:


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: just me]
    #8678200 - 07/24/08 10:19 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

ha ha ha I think your eyes are bigger than your belly there is a shit load man you going for level 5 ? lol


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    #8678203 - 07/24/08 10:21 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

no my tolerance is bigger than a horses

it sux


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: just me]
    #8678205 - 07/24/08 10:21 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

and im going for level 55


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    #8678215 - 07/24/08 10:26 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

hahahahah lol in that case better eat 3 of robaneros cakes


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8678219 - 07/24/08 10:27 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Should have gotten the Karo, ats filtered and allows for proper mixing without residue at the bottom of the jars after the PC cycle... or since your in Hawaii... use Turbinado Sugar or Sugar in the RAW by name


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    #8678233 - 07/24/08 10:30 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

thats i think the 3rd time someones told me use sugar in the raw.

i almost hate to support them tho :lol:

how much? pack per LC?


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    #8678245 - 07/24/08 10:33 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

i use 1tsp (teaspoon... the small one) to 5000mls with karo malt and dextrose

Id say half a pack an LC


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    #8678251 - 07/24/08 10:34 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

i know what a teaspoon is jerk, im from the states :lol:

1/2 pack in the raw per 200ml sound about right?

i might give that a try soon.


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    #8678261 - 07/24/08 10:36 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

NO! half a pac to 500+mls water...

what are you goin for? 15% sugars? 1% works great!


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    #8678273 - 07/24/08 10:39 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

:lol:

im not a mathmetician

i do baby bottle LC's


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    #8678291 - 07/24/08 10:43 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

500 grains of sugar in the raw... 2 grains more or less and you can count on Perfect Failure:lol:

I bet some noob will believe that so i better make it say something like

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    #8678304 - 07/24/08 10:46 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

that went over my head...:lol:


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    #8678308 - 07/24/08 10:47 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

N/M

re-read it and got it now


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    #8678319 - 07/24/08 10:50 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

Science says 1000mg (1g) sugar to 1000mls water Equals a 1% solution...

figure that out if it dont go over your head


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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: P.Menace]
    #8678336 - 07/24/08 10:53 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

theres nothin left to figure :lol:

u just did it all

so would it be like 1/5 of a g for the baby bottles :confused:

how bout you quit pickin on me, or i wont go pickin for you tonight :crazy2:


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    #8678370 - 07/24/08 11:01 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

:lol: Im not pickin... as i see it I helped(???) right?

you got what you needed?
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BIG bags of Pickins.
Them Brugs sound cool as shit


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roby000 said: thats true a shotgun is almost like a college degree in a sense that if you show it to the right person at the right time you could make a lot of money.

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Re: my honey water is funk [Re: P.Menace]
    #8678452 - 07/24/08 11:25 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

they are. its aurea.

they were like the grandaddy to at least 9 differnt cultivars that came from it, with a LONG line of shamanistic use


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