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OfflineBennyProfane
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Cowpoo vs. hpoo?
    #8650719 - 07/18/08 11:41 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Does anyone use cowpoo in their bulk subs?  All I hear about on this forum is hpoo but I have yet to find a provider for that in my area.  Granted, I have not done a very extensive search cause Im still a few weeks away from the spawning stage and am not desperately searching.  I live in wisconsin and for obvious reasons, I can get 40lbs bags of cowpoo for $2.  I have read that the texture of cowpoo is not as good as hpoo, but if I mix it with a good amount of straw and\or verm, will that work?


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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: BennyProfane]
    #8650726 - 07/18/08 11:43 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

just get poo... they both work.. I have heard more people like hpoo, but too me, shit is shit..

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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8650764 - 07/18/08 11:51 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I see what you mean, shroomies grow on cowpoo naturally in cow pastures.  But I know I can do better than that in a controlled indoor grow.  I've read hpoo has a fluffier texture that mycelium likes.  I figure I can give it that texture it likes if I just mix it with enough verm and/or straw.  Does anyone actually have experience with it and can give me advice on what to mix it with?


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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8650778 - 07/18/08 11:53 AM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I have also done enough lurking to know that your preference is straight coco coir.  I will be trying that too.


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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: BennyProfane]
    #8650911 - 07/18/08 12:26 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Just found an old discussion on this on the forums.  It seems like the consensus is hpoo all the way.


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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: BennyProfane]
    #8650971 - 07/18/08 12:45 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

I have used both greatly.. I like them both.. really, just whatever is cheaper and on hand.. hpoo does seem to be the poo of champs, though.. haha.. I love coir, because I dont like messing with shit.. but, before coir, all I used was poo..

sooo.. get your poo on.. haha

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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8651313 - 07/18/08 02:13 PM (16 years, 6 months ago)

Just don't use rabbit poo or dog poo.

:nonono:

I prefer HPoo myself. Seems to yield better with similar strains and parameters.


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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: numonkei]
    #8651503 - 07/18/08 03:08 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

That 40lbs of cow poo for 2$ wouldnt be from a lowes/home depot type place would it.be very careful using store bought    poo.a lot of it is ful of nasties and not leeched composted properly.do a search and you can read peoples experiences with store bought.However though if you can get cow po that has been composted/leeched properly most of the experts say that it is superior to hpoo in nutes,its just that hpoo is better texture wise and easier to use.


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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: eclipse]
    #8651591 - 07/18/08 03:23 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

I imagine adding some perlite, verm &/or coir would make it fluffier. A little perlite is great in a casing layer for fluffines. Never tried w/ poo or any sub though.


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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: eclipse]
    #8651599 - 07/18/08 03:24 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

hpoo wins

cows have 4 stomaches and digest their food way too much. it comes out with similar texture to human feces.

horses poo basically comes out looking like straw, except they do the chopping + digest it slightly + add enzymes/beneficial bacteria or whatever it is they do.

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Just don't use rabbit poo or dog poo.




I recall at least two different grow logs of someone using rabbitpoo and it appearently works fine. I believe RR and/or Anno approved of rabbit poo.


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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: eclipse]
    #8652851 - 07/18/08 08:54 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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That 40lbs of cow poo for 2$ wouldnt be from a lowes/home depot type place would it.be very careful using store bought    poo.a lot of it is ful of nasties and not leeched composted properly.do a search and you can read peoples experiences with store bought.However though if you can get cow po that has been composted/leeched properly most of the experts say that it is superior to hpoo in nutes,its just that hpoo is better texture wise and easier to use.



Hmmmmmm....idk.  For that price I'm sure there is a good chance it hasnt been leeched properly.  That has something to do with draining water from it when it is being prepped before being loaded into the bags, correct?  How am I to know and what can I do about it to prep it myself if it isn't ready?


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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: BennyProfane]
    #8652917 - 07/18/08 09:15 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

cow poo is fine just add some straw and or coir to help it out


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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: Juke Adro]
    #8653338 - 07/18/08 11:05 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

make sure you get that straw chopped up well. its harder to get a nice even substrate with unchopped straw. i use a yard mulcher to chop my straw. its ten times quicker than doing it by hand. and when your chopping up a half a bale of straw, a mulcher is the only way to do it

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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: goldieman]
    #8653446 - 07/18/08 11:39 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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when your chopping up a half a bale of straw, a mulcher is the only way to do it




A weedeater works well too.  Put the straw in a clean tote or trash can, and then stick the weed whacker in there and go to town.  You can shred a tote full of straw in about  30 seconds.

Bagged up cow manure from nurseries works fine.  Mix with coir or verm to fluff it up.  Straw can also be used, but coir or verm will help give better texture.  It need not be leached.
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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: RogerRabbit]
    #8653464 - 07/18/08 11:48 PM (16 years, 5 months ago)

never thought of a weedeater rr. thats a great idea. i also run my horse poo thru the mulcher. it breaks it up so fine, much easier to work with than breaking up in a pot of water like i see in some teks

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Re: Cow poo vs. hpoo? [Re: goldieman]
    #8653764 - 07/19/08 01:13 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

New User. So what's good to everybody.

-It honestly doesn't truly matter weather it is a horse or cow, it matters what you feed them!

-Of course if you have a champion line horse fed on a strict diet of good grains and etc etc, then it will be the best.

-Over all if you are in Wisconsin then you're cow poo should be of high grade.
(NOTE: Make shire they do not feed the cow/horse spore-icide digestive food.)


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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: BennyProfane]
    #8654076 - 07/19/08 04:41 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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I see what you mean, shroomies grow on cowpoo naturally in cow pastures.  But I know I can do better than that in a controlled indoor grow.  I've read hpoo has a fluffier texture that mycelium likes.  I figure I can give it that texture it likes if I just mix it with enough verm and/or straw.  Does anyone actually have experience with it and can give me advice on what to mix it with?




you cant do better than mama nature bro, but were all here to try :smile:


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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: just me]
    #8654080 - 07/19/08 04:45 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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I see what you mean, shroomies grow on cowpoo naturally in cow pastures.  But I know I can do better than that in a controlled indoor grow.  I've read hpoo has a fluffier texture that mycelium likes.  I figure I can give it that texture it likes if I just mix it with enough verm and/or straw.  Does anyone actually have experience with it and can give me advice on what to mix it with?




you cant do better than mama nature bro, but were all here to try :smile:




we do like 1000x better than mother nature.....

mimicing nature isn't even ideal for mushrooms... were far and past.

a cow patty yields maybe a couple small fruits, we can yield so much more and more effeciently.


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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: flavoraid]
    #8654097 - 07/19/08 04:57 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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BennyProfane said:
I see what you mean, shroomies grow on cowpoo naturally in cow pastures.  But I know I can do better than that in a controlled indoor grow.  I've read hpoo has a fluffier texture that mycelium likes.  I figure I can give it that texture it likes if I just mix it with enough verm and/or straw.  Does anyone actually have experience with it and can give me advice on what to mix it with?




you cant do better than mama nature bro, but were all here to try :smile:




we do like 1000x better than mother nature.....

mimicing nature isn't even ideal for mushrooms... were far and past.

a cow patty yields maybe a couple small fruits, we can yield so much more and more effeciently.




Ofcourse it isnt ideal for shromies in nature!
mama nature take xcare of all creaturs on earth :wink: :laugh:


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Re: Cowpoo vs. hpoo? [Re: numonkei]
    #8654166 - 07/19/08 06:01 AM (16 years, 5 months ago)

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Just don't use rabbit poo or dog poo.

:nonono:





Or your own :slitwrist:


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