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Re: ready to fruit [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #8550183 - 06/22/08 09:36 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

mhmhmmh :rolleyes:

people in south america take mate infusions every day, two or three times, during they entire lives. the cancer incidence isn't different than other countries, i think


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Re: ready to fruit [Re: x7x_x7x]
    #8550221 - 06/22/08 09:57 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

well i seen it on wiki so take it with a grain of salt.  but after reading it i plan to be a bit more cautious about how much I drink until more info becomes available

here's the article i read

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In vivo and in vitro studies are showing yerba mate to exhibit significant cancer-fighting activity. Researchers at the University of Illinois (2005) found yerba mate to be "rich in phenolic constituents" and to "inhibit oral cancer cell proliferation" while it promoted proliferation of oral cancer cell lines at certain concentrations.[15]

On the other hand, a study by the International Agency for Research on Cancer showed a limited correlation between oral cancer and the drinking of hot mate (no data were collected on drinkers of cold mate). Given the influence of the temperature of water, as well as the lack of complete adjustment for age, alcohol consumption and smoking, the study concludes that mate is "not classifiable as to its carcinogenicity to humans".[16] Yerba mate consumption has been associated with increased incidence of bladder, esophageal, oral, squamous cell of the head and neck, and lung cancer.[17][18][19][20][21][22]

The pyrrolizidine alkaloids contained in mate tea are known to produce a rare condition of the liver, veno-occlusive disease, which produces liver failure due to progressive occlusion of the small venous channels in the liver. One fatal case has been reported in a young British woman who consumed very large quantities of mate tea from Paraguay.[23]

An August 11, 2005, United States patent application (documents #20050176777, #20030185908,[24] and #20020054926) cites yerba mate extract as a monoamine oxidase inhibitor; the maximal inhibition observed in vitro was 40–50%. MAOIs being antidepressants, there is speculation that this may contribute to the calming effect of yerba mate.[citation needed]

In addition, it has been noted by the U.S. Army Center for Health Promotion and Preventive Medicine that yerba mate can cause high blood pressure when used in conjunction with other MAO inhibitors (such as Nardil and Parnate).[25]




I wasn't sure if you had seen any of this or not so just thought i would let you know as it seems you drink alot of it


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Re: ready to fruit [Re: makaveli8x8]
    #8550367 - 06/22/08 11:13 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

:thumbup: thanks!


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Re: yerba mate as fruiting substrate [Re: x7x_x7x]
    #8647867 - 07/17/08 04:24 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

i forget to update this post. i got some conclusions, here we go:

i find sawdust + yerba blocks contaminated with green molds and wet bubble disease, which is infrequent or no appear at all with plain sawdust blocks -in my experience-

on the other hand, yerba has been useful as spawn substrate, mixed with rye or other grains.

conclusion: yerba could be useful (as many other things are) as spawn additive, without proven positive or negative effects; on the other hand, perform poorly as fruiting substrate


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Re: yerba mate as fruiting substrate [Re: x7x_x7x]
    #8647883 - 07/17/08 04:27 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

this is my first published research :smile: :wink::grin::tongue:


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Re: yerba mate as fruiting substrate [Re: x7x_x7x]
    #8649488 - 07/18/08 12:30 AM (15 years, 6 months ago)

nice conclusion :smile:


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