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 Huehuecoyotl
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 You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. 
#8640963 - 07/16/08 02:46 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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it merely is
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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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LunarEclipse
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. *DELETED* [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#8641517 - 07/16/08 07:32 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Sleepwalker
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#8641518 - 07/16/08 07:33 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
Huehuecoyotl said:
it merely is
If that's true, then why is this thread needed?
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: LunarEclipse]
#8641662 - 07/16/08 08:51 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Quote:
LunarEclipse said:
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Huehuecoyotl said:
it merely is
Unconditional acceptance sounds like a bad trait in a landlord. "Lousy credit, no job, no money, an eviction, three large dogs, of course those are fine! How soon can you move in? Deposit? Why would you need to pay me that?"
Unconditional acceptance that he is referring to is emotional and not physical. I can accept the fact emotionally that you won't pay your rent but I will still evict you. This way I don't have to waste energy being upset or offended by your actions. I just take care of the problem.
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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.
" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: Sleepwalker]
#8641677 - 07/16/08 08:56 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I posted it because I saw in another thread that many did not understand the context. I just wanted to give it my own spin.
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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#8641690 - 07/16/08 09:01 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Here is another thing to consider. Unconditional acceptance IS taking responsibility for yourself.....it is the same. It is the only way responsibility can be fully assumed in life.
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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Icelander
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#8641695 - 07/16/08 09:01 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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nice
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"Don't believe everything you think". -Anom.
" All that lives was born to die"-Anom.
With much wisdom comes much sorrow,
The more knowledge, the more grief.
Ecclesiastes circa 350 BC
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: Icelander]
#8641699 - 07/16/08 09:03 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Rock and roll.
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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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dblaney
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#8641861 - 07/16/08 09:43 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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What about people who seem almost unconditionally intolerant? Does unconditional acceptance exist as a potential with them, or as a concept far removed from their reality, or how do these two relate?
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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"
"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer
Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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Veritas
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: dblaney]
#8641878 - 07/16/08 09:49 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Unconditionally intolerant? Does this mean that they won't tolerate anything? That sounds exhausting.
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: Veritas]
#8641923 - 07/16/08 10:11 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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"You just won a million dollars, here's your check." "NO! I won't have it."
"We would like you to stay at our five-star resort with all you can eat, beautiful people, and everything you could possibly desire, for as long as you want, for free." "Hell no!"
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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"
"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer
Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: dblaney]
#8641926 - 07/16/08 10:13 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Acceptance is something inside yourself. Worrying about the intolerance of others is resistance to acceptance. Resistance s violence...violence creates more violence. Acceptance = no resistance.
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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Veritas
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: dblaney]
#8641932 - 07/16/08 10:17 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Mmmm...all-you-can eat beautiful people. 
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dblaney
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#8641941 - 07/16/08 10:22 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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If unconditional acceptance "just is," then what about people who are very intolerant and unaccepting? Where is the unconditional acceptance in these people? Does it just need to wait for the right time before appearing? In that case it wouldn't be unconditional. Does it exist as a potential, waiting to manifest? In that case it wouldn't be unconditional.
You raised a topic for discussion, so please do so instead of bending and twisting to explain to me how I resist acceptance.
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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"
"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer
Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: dblaney]
#8641949 - 07/16/08 10:25 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Apparently you didn't accept my response...lol. My last post was my explanation, but if you can't see my point through the example then your just not going to get it right now because I don't feel like an argument.
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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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dblaney
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#8642150 - 07/16/08 11:15 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Apparently you didn't accept my response...lol.
Okay let me take a closer look at your response then.
Acceptance is something inside yourself. Worrying about the intolerance of others is resistance to acceptance. Resistance s violence...violence creates more violence. Acceptance = no resistance.
It seems to me that you're suggesting unconditional acceptance is our natural state, and that people who are intolerant and unaccepting are just resisting this. Setting aside my own opinions and experiences on the matter (which would mostly agree with you) to play devils advocate, how can you know this? Do you have any evidence?
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"What is in us that turns a deaf ear to the cries of human suffering?"
"Belief is a beautiful armor
But makes for the heaviest sword"
- John Mayer
Making the noise "penicillin" is no substitute for actually taking penicillin.
"This country, with its institutions, belongs to the people who inhabit it. Whenever they shall grow weary of the existing government, they can exercise their constitutional right of amending it, or their revolutionary right to dismember or overthrow it." -Abraham Lincoln
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Huehuecoyotl
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: dblaney]
#8642573 - 07/16/08 01:15 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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I don't need evidence. I have life experience and wisdom derived from that. It is my wisdom though and originally intended only for me.
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"A warrior is a hunter. He calculates everything. That's control. Once his calculations are over, he acts. He lets go. That's abandon. A warrior is not a leaf at the mercy of the wind. No one can push him; no one can make him do things against himself or against his better judgment. A warrior is tuned to survive, and he survives in the best of all possible fashions." ― Carlos Castaneda
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: Huehuecoyotl]
#8642687 - 07/16/08 01:36 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hue Hues comment is accurate. It only isn't the case when someone decides to slap a condition on something.
Think about it.
Unconditional acceptance is how it goes until someone comes along with a condition and chooses not to accept what is if the condition is not met.
Sure, we can change and gain control over things by doing that. It's manipulating things though. In a way, we hold the truth of what is real hostage, to get our ideals met.
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. *DELETED* [Re: Icelander]
#8642815 - 07/16/08 02:02 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Re: You Never Have to Extend Unconditional Acceptance. [Re: LunarEclipse]
#8643428 - 07/16/08 04:08 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Did you read what he posted?  He said that you can accept that the tenant has not paid rent, as in not deny or resist this fact, and STILL evict the tenant.
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