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deCypher



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Holotropic breathwork with psychedelics?
#8637227 - 07/15/08 11:02 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Anyone experienced with using Holotropic Breathwork techniques during psychedelic usage? From what I can gather, it involves some form of hyperventilation in an effort to release all suppressed trauma up to and including the original trauma of birth, but I couldn't find any specific instructional guidelines. Does this really work, or are its purported effects merely a result of passing out due to low oxygen levels while tripping?
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Re: Holotropic breathwork with psychedelics? [Re: deCypher]
#8637230 - 07/15/08 11:03 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Holotropic breathwork just sounds like a godawful idea. Extended hyperventilation? No thanks.
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Re: Holotropic breathwork with psychedelics? [Re: LSDreamer]
#8637237 - 07/15/08 11:05 AM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Sounds vaguely dangerous, that's all I know about it.
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Nunbuh_Chrubble
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Re: Holotropic breathwork with psychedelics? [Re: Hiei]
#8637611 - 07/15/08 12:30 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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you don't wanna fuck around with pranayama exercises unless you are guided by a good qualified teacher. If you don't know what you are doing you can really hurt yourself.
The sudarshan kriya is a good pranayama exercise that is pretty safe, but you need to take the Art of Living class to learn it...
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Re: Holotropic breathwork with psychedelics? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
#8637727 - 07/15/08 12:56 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I've seen video w/ people doing it(just holotropics). It does look like they are very psychedelicized. I know that drugs can have effects on the nervous system that can screw with heart rate and sometimes respiration. I would approach that with caution. Might be important though...
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deCypher



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Re: Holotropic breathwork with psychedelics? [Re: Nunbuh_Chrubble]
#8639300 - 07/15/08 06:40 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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Nunbuh_Chrubble said: If you don't know what you are doing you can really hurt yourself.
How so? In a similar fashion to the oft-exaggerated Kundalini Syndrome?
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Re: Holotropic breathwork with psychedelics? [Re: deCypher]
#8639670 - 07/15/08 08:17 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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I haven't learned Holobreathing but I've done Pranayama while tripping and it did seem dangerous.
After doing the Pranayama exercises in 'Be Here Now' my fingers felt like they were buzzing with electricity, and I felt a distinct bubble of energy in my solar plexus like there was a blockage in the flow to my heart.
I seriously felt an expanded balloon of buzzing energy in my chest that was close to bursting.
I stopped doing the exercise and the sensation slowly faded.
There's definitely more to it than oxygenation...
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Re: Holotropic breathwork with psychedelics? [Re: deCypher]
#8639818 - 07/15/08 08:43 PM (15 years, 7 months ago) |
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The Cypher said:
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Nunbuh_Chrubble said: If you don't know what you are doing you can really hurt yourself.
How so? In a similar fashion to the oft-exaggerated Kundalini Syndrome?
besides just straight up hyperventilation being dangerous... yeah, you can fuck up your energies. Even just a simple headache may be something you'd want to avoid while tripping.
My friend/neighbor started having what he claimed were kundalini experiences on shrooms. He definitely became a danger to himself and others and may spend the next 5 years in jail for domestic violence. Whether you just wanna blame the shrooms or don't believe in the kundalini thing... whatever. It's a crazy fucking reality...
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