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Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek
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Yo, this has gone on long enough. I see all these people who won't help others build hydrapods by giving them vendors of component "out of respect for the creator" and I see Mycotek consisting balking in doing the same. Am I the only one here who sees that this "pod" is just a homemade hydroponic device with a pretty dome. I mean, its made from completely storebought parts, could be assembled within an hour (given the possession of the cloche and all) and yet some people have the gall to charg 170 bucks for it while still others lack the brains to resist. Ridiculous.
Here's what I propose we do. Everyone who owns one, spill the construction to us. We already know that the large style cloches (even though you don't need a cloche for it to work) can be obtained at http://www.haxnicks.com/victorian_bells.asp while most of the other parts like geolite, adjustable aquarium water pumps, and tubing are readily availible. As I see it the only two difficult pieces left in making a Completely identical "Hydrapod" are how to efficently seal the edges of the base with rubber or what have you, and where to obtain a 16-17" plastic basin to hold all that geolite. These are not difficult problems and with a little thought and a little teamwork those who want to save more than a hundred dollars constructing one of these things can do so. Once this is done, we'll type it up, post it up, and everyone can make one.
Now, at some point some pansy is going to say "What about the inventor." As far as I'm concerned he's made an obscene amount of money off of doing practically nothing. He didn't invent the cloche, the geolite "patent pending" wicking method or whatever the fuck he claims gives the pod good moisturizing rates, he didn't invent the bubbler. Let's put an end to this nonsense and write "The Hydrapod Tek".


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
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He built an item that sold. His $170 product will pay itself off real fast. Im not saying that you need to go that way, you can certainly do it yourself, however dont think they are the bad guys. You would do it too, and if not...you would be missing a great business oppertunity. People need to make money to live, why not make it doing something you love.

You can make an efficient grow setup however you want with local materials, nothing complicated about it. Anyone can do it, and be as unique as you want. But when you decide every other way in the universe isnt good enough for you, you want it all, and go and do it just so he doesnt make money.... That is kinda mean. Its not like cultivation can only be done with a hydra pod, or that its even the most efficient way. As far as im concerned there are already alot of teks about this on the shroomery, they just happen to be based on fish tanks, or tubs, or bowls, and not a Bucket.

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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
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But it takes so much work to gather the parts, build it, and hope it works. If I had the money, I would probably buy a pod, just because the ease of doing it that way. It takes a lot of time if you dont have a fully automated system...

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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
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He has a patent pending, doesnt that make building the exact same thing illegal or am I way off base here?

As for construction, you figure it out. You dont need a pod to know how it works, its fairly simple!

Good luck,
Fd :mad: 


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
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okay lets recap... you can get the dome at http://www.haxnicks.com/victorian_bells.asp ... two large bells for 26, whatever that L shit is, (yen?)

you can get the grow rocks, for humidity at http://www.futuregarden.com/propagation/media_lecastone.html for anywhere from 10-40 bucks... (U.S.) i would get the 10 buck one since theyre infinitely reusable....

The bottom you can just go shopping at wallmart or equivalent nursery for pots... if theyres holes in them, just fill em up with glue or silicone glue, or tape, whatever.....

Airstones, air pumps at your local fish store place...

All together i think it would cost about... 80 bucks to make two equivalents of the 'hydra-pod'.... Oh yea, not including shipping either.. shipping hydrokorrel grow rocks is expensive.. i got a 50 lbs bag from future garden a few years ago for my hydroponics growing, only costed like 60 bucks for the product, but another 60 for shipping....

Try to find all the products around your home.. save on shipping, but i don't know of any other place that sells the domes...

just fill bottom with water, place airstone in, fill will hydrokorrel rocks untill about an inch flush with the container, turn on the pump and toss the lid on it...

I don't know what else is in the hydra-pod setup, but if you put two holes near the bottom for the c02 to escape, you get constant air exchange, high humidity, and its self contained....



In reply to:
He has a patent pending, doesnt that make building the exact same thing illegal or am I way off base here?



Well, yea, if its the exact same thing, but im sure theres bits and pieces that are specific to his product, like a special way of doing something, thats the only way to patent something... And if you make it youself, and don't sell it, then they can't charge you with anything... atleast i don't see the logic in it if they could..


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Everything posted above was out of fun, none should be taken serious. I am currently under the influence so take that into consideration.

Edited by TripsAreForKids (09/04/02 04:25 PM)

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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
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Glad to know that you think the inventor has made enough money. Also thanks for telling us that he didn't do shit to deserve it'

WHO THE FUCK MADE YOU THE JUDGE.

YOU'RE AN ASS!!!!!!!!


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: TripsAreForKids]
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I think Anno has posted a cheaper source for the cloche, btw. Personally, I have no interest in cake grows, so I haven't payed much attention.

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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: TripsAreForKids]
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In reply to:
And if you make it youself, and don't sell it, then they can't charge you with anything... atleast i don't see the logic in it if they could..



I dont think if they caught you with a mushroom cultivation setup that they would be worrying about patents :P

Edited by tak (09/04/02 05:14 PM)

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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
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For christ's sake... First of all I never once said that Hydrapod "technology" was necessary or public domain. Nor did I say that the Hydrapod is the end all be all of cake cultivation. I just abhor his profiteering attitude towards these forums and the people who cultivate and wish to keep him from making money off of ignorant growers who are tricked by his rhetoric. If you've seen his webpage and you can cut through the commerical bullshit you'd see he's a shyster.
A few notes: not only does "patent pending" mean absolutely nothing (it means he's "trying" to get a patent, he has applied) but the fact that he hasn't got one so far proves further the mediocrity of his product. And btw Repobob, I make myself the judge, how do you like that? Or are you too spineless to stray? Go home to your suburban delights you little raver faggot.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
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By the powers invested(?) in me, declare Dolce the judge. I also declare repobob a #@!% &*#$. I origionally supported mc-man aka mycotek, for trying to come up with something different. Now that he has done everything possible to hide the "secrets", which prove it's worthless. if it was indeed that great, he would post the plans, and people would still buy from him.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DERRAYLD]
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Okay, now I finally have to put in my two cents.

Derrayld, you're totally talking out of your ass. You admittedly don't know the guy, you don't even know his handle! It's Mycotek, not Mycofile and the guy is a total snobbish know-it-all money grubbing asshole. I've had my dealings with him. He sucks, plain and simple. He is a very poor businessman who treats his customers like shit. For every 3 people who say something nice about him, there are ten who hate him.

If I were at all interested in fruiting pf cakes I'd do everythng in my ability to make sure he sold as few of those rip-off pods as possible by doing something along the lines of what Demitri did with the "Magic Grow Bucket". Fortunately for Mycotek, I only use pf to spawn with, and I have much beter things to do with my time than deal with taking down an asshole like him.

Mycotek is the type of vendor NOBODY needs. He deserves to be out of business.

Okay Mickey or Anno, you can lock this flaming shit thread now.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: TM]
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My apologies TM I did miss-read the original post.
I thought you guys were flaming mycofile.
As far as mycotek goes, Whatever!!!
He can keep his shitty cake growing methods.
I like the poo.

I don`t want to fight, I just want to SING!!

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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
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As I see it the only two difficult pieces left in making a Completely identical "Hydrapod" are how to efficently seal the edges of the base with rubber or what have you, and where to obtain a 16-17" plastic basin to hold all that geolite.
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For a geolite basin I believe you can go to a prospector's supply like Pro Mac and get a screen, plastic or metal that fits inside of a 5 gal paint bucket.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: groingrinder]
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I think a good option naturally would be silicone??
Another option would be bath sealent.
It`s a water and fungus repellent sealent that they use for the edging of baths when they get installed.
Should work really well.
The basin? well that`s ust dependant on the size you need.
I think primarily once everything has been purchased and constructed the size of the bowl will be known.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DERRAYLD]
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The 18" bell (US source): store.yahoo.com/seedsofchange/newsolbelclo.html

The 15" bottom (still need weather stripping): www.farmbid.com/SuperStore/SuperStore-Product.asp?ProductID=106485

One place for a 24" flexible air diffuser: www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PA&Product_Code=WON-AIR24&Category_Code=Flexible

the rest is simple.

Edited by buzzKill (09/05/02 04:26 AM)

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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: tak_old]
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In reply to:
I dont think if they caught you with a mushroom cultivation setup that they would be worrying about patents :P



Only if your growing illegal mushrooms....


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: TripsAreForKids]
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What's the difference between a hydra-pod, and a terrarium with an aquarium pump bubbler, and hydrostone in the bottom?


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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Aesthetics for the most part... hehe :grin: 


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: Fd3000]
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i don't promote the theft of others idea's if you don't wanna pay $170 for a pod then don't. It's as simple as that.

Edited by psilocybinjunkie (09/05/02 07:16 AM)

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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: psilocybinjunkie]
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I would like to take this opportunity to claim a few things as my rightfull intellectual property:

A terrarium, with an aquarium pump bubbler and hydrostone in the bottom in the shape of:

1.) A rhombus
2.) A trapezoid
3.) A sphere or semisphere
4.) A disk
5.) A cylindter (ON ITS SIDE)
6.) A pyramid (any number of sides)
7.) A cone
8.) A truncated parabola
9.)An octagon
10.) A pentagon
11.) A hexagon
12.) Oh, just any damn polygon with sides that number anything other than 1 or 4.

Now Git offa mah property!!!!!  :mad: :mad: :mad:

Having said that, what is the fascination with building a homemade hydra-pod? The hydra-pod is a device of convenience, If you're going to go through all the trouble of building something, why not build something better, like a nice terrarium?
 


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: Baby_Hitler]
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I think a few pluses to the hydra-pod are the fact that it's round, it's plastic and it is one neat-looking integrated package. It being all round prevents drip-down from above, provides a more consistent fruiting environment and is easier to clean (no corners). It being plastic makes it less prone to breaking. Plus it does look neat and it's tall so you can stack multiple cakes. And we all know that looking neat is the most important thing :-)


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
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Yea, I've thought about it and although the technology isn't really worth all this philibustering and anger, I think its worth it to a small niche of our growers, people with limited space and time to grow in. Cake culture is, admittedly, the lowest rung of the rhizomorphic ladder as you get fairly small yields but you do begin fruiting right out of the jar and if you can humidify properly you can get a decent "personal use" yield. You don't have to fuck around with the casing which, unless you work in quite sterile conditions can really screw up your yields if done improperly. You might even get a visit from the white cotton fuzz fairy.
Anyway, the point is cake culture has its place for a lot of growers and even those of you who grow at a higher level should still be pissed that someone is trying to take advantage of people who were like you at one point.

To continue with the Hydra-Pod tech project everyone has answered most of the questions I've had with definite answers as much as possible, save one. If you look at the rim of the pod at www.hydrapod.com you can see a plastic or rubber seal encircling it, which seals when the top is placed on. Considering this I though one could get a plastic or rubber hose, slice it cleanly from side to side, fit it around the rim and silicone glue it in place. However, I'd like the opinion of someone who's actually got a pod if possible, in comparison to how the "one and only" Hydrapod has it sealed on or whatever (I thought I saw it attached with staples or something). Yea, it doesn't have to be exactly the same, I know, but I'd like to get it exactly the same each time because each similarity removes doubt in the tek. Whew, typing...


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
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I was thinking about a casing tek with a hydra-pod: You could take a rectangular plastic container and cut out the bottom, replacing it with stainless steel screen so that no cake or verm/casing goes through but moisture could come in from the geolite, through the bottom. You'd put your substrate on the screen and your casing material on top then lay the container on the geolite in the hydra-pod. Maybe you'd want a thin perlite layer on the screen first (before the substrate) to keep the casing material from directly contacting any water.

What do you think?


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: Bilge]
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Um...sounds pretty complicated considering that the casing itself provides the moisture regulation necessary for fruiting (if misted or humidified consistently). The reason that cakes need so much ambient humidity or casing or perlite or whatever is because they have to extract moisture directly from the air instead of through the casing. If you're going to go casing its better to buy one of those indoor zip up greenhouses, a cool mist humidifier, and you'll do really well.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: buzzKill]
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what is the air diffuser used for? (i know its for air exchange) but do you need to hook a pump up to it or what?

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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: teaker]
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yes, an air pump is included with the hydra-pod.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: Bilge]
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mycotek has always treated me fairly and with respect, why do you say all that tm? i have owned a pod for a year now, and he has always offered support with a professional attitude.

myctoek has posted link on where to get the supplies to build your own. i don't understand why all the flames. if you have the time go buy your own supplies and make your own. others who don't have the time/money, buy it from mycotek with the waranty/garuntee.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: TM]
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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: Anonymous]
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"If anyone feels this way about their experience with me then please speak up here and let me know so I can have a chance to "make it right". I have always offered a no questions asked 100% money-back guarantee for anyone who is unhappy with my service or product so if anyone does feel this way then please let me know so I can refund your money."

Hell,that right there says it all..I will be ordering some other supplies from you this week. It's nice to see you stand behind your products! Maybe one day in the future I will get enough money to get a pod too!

BTW Nice website!

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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: VividDreams]
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im pretty sure if you try a search on hydropod you can probably find the tek for it. I remember a while back someone went to all the trouble to make one with illustrations and everything. Not sure if it got deleted though because i remember there being some kind of legal issue that came up as well.
Whats the deal with this topic anyways? Seems like every few months it will pop up and everyone want to know how to build one and shit and then everyone starts bitchin at mycotek about it. If he wants to charge 170 and his selling his product then way to fucking go, guess he passed his econ class and knows how a supply and demand chart works. I don't understand why this is so difficult a concept to understand... And I for one have not had any dealings with him but what i will say is way to fucking go for making a product that really makes it easy to get into this hobby and one that you can make some money off of too.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: seattlekid]
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In reply to:
If he wants to charge 170 and his selling his product then way to fucking go, guess he passed his econ class and knows how a supply and demand chart works.


One thing you guys are missing out on is the fact that it doesn't cost a shroomery member $170. If I'm not mistaken, Mycotek has extended a permanent discount to shroomery members. It's around $130 I think. PM Mycotek for the true figure.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: boxtop703]
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I've always tried to follow his example.

That would be a huge step down for you, boxtop. You are a respectable vendor with great products at very reasonable prices and a no-hassle policy.

Mycotek, on the other hand is too conceited and greedy to care about his customers. He is a liar and a cheat. Please don't follow his example.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: TM]
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I hate to lock the thread, but I think it's run its course. There's more than enough information here to build your own!

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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
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I usually don't get involved in such matters but.....

If you think the HydraPod is overpriced.  Fine.  No big deal...  But now I'd like for YOU to think up, design, market, and advertise a new totally automated grow chamber.

Good Luck.

These kind of posts/conversations are just like the ones from years ago when people use to talk badly about PF and his tek. 

Do you know how creative and innovative it would be if someone came up with a COMPLETELY new tek for growing mushrooms!

Designing a new product is the same way......

How much do you REALLY think it costs to manufactuer a semiconductor?

How much do you think it costs Ford to build a pickup truck?

Even better, do you really think it cost thousands of dollars to make a Rolex watch? 

If anyone at MycoTek has treated anyone badly, thats a customer service issue, NOT a "Hydrapod Construction" issue. 

Oh, and for those who say "he's made an obscene amount of money off of doing practically nothing"  .... well, like I've said above, lets see you invent, design, market and run something positive instead of being so negative.

Its threads like this that bring the OMC down.  A vendor has a product that they're proud of and they want to give people the experience of using it.  And then they get slashed for it.

Contrary to popular belief, there are many people who simply don't have the time to fan and mist all day.  A fully automated chamber is something right up their alley!  It may cost a little more, but if you've got the money to spend then what harm is being done? 

Its a shame that people, especially in this community, must always tear something apart even when the intentions are good.    :confused:    :frown:

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