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OfflineDolceRequiem
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Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek
    #863931 - 09/04/02 05:53 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Yo, this has gone on long enough. I see all these people who won't help others build hydrapods by giving them vendors of component "out of respect for the creator" and I see Mycotek consisting balking in doing the same. Am I the only one here who sees that this "pod" is just a homemade hydroponic device with a pretty dome. I mean, its made from completely storebought parts, could be assembled within an hour (given the possession of the cloche and all) and yet some people have the gall to charg 170 bucks for it while still others lack the brains to resist. Ridiculous.
Here's what I propose we do. Everyone who owns one, spill the construction to us. We already know that the large style cloches (even though you don't need a cloche for it to work) can be obtained at http://www.haxnicks.com/victorian_bells.asp while most of the other parts like geolite, adjustable aquarium water pumps, and tubing are readily availible. As I see it the only two difficult pieces left in making a Completely identical "Hydrapod" are how to efficently seal the edges of the base with rubber or what have you, and where to obtain a 16-17" plastic basin to hold all that geolite. These are not difficult problems and with a little thought and a little teamwork those who want to save more than a hundred dollars constructing one of these things can do so. Once this is done, we'll type it up, post it up, and everyone can make one.
Now, at some point some pansy is going to say "What about the inventor." As far as I'm concerned he's made an obscene amount of money off of doing practically nothing. He didn't invent the cloche, the geolite "patent pending" wicking method or whatever the fuck he claims gives the pod good moisturizing rates, he didn't invent the bubbler. Let's put an end to this nonsense and write "The Hydrapod Tek".


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
    #863979 - 09/04/02 06:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

He built an item that sold. His $170 product will pay itself off real fast. Im not saying that you need to go that way, you can certainly do it yourself, however dont think they are the bad guys. You would do it too, and if not...you would be missing a great business oppertunity. People need to make money to live, why not make it doing something you love.

You can make an efficient grow setup however you want with local materials, nothing complicated about it. Anyone can do it, and be as unique as you want. But when you decide every other way in the universe isnt good enough for you, you want it all, and go and do it just so he doesnt make money.... That is kinda mean. Its not like cultivation can only be done with a hydra pod, or that its even the most efficient way. As far as im concerned there are already alot of teks about this on the shroomery, they just happen to be based on fish tanks, or tubs, or bowls, and not a Bucket.


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OfflineIchydai
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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
    #863981 - 09/04/02 06:09 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

But it takes so much work to gather the parts, build it, and hope it works. If I had the money, I would probably buy a pod, just because the ease of doing it that way. It takes a lot of time if you dont have a fully automated system...


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
    #863985 - 09/04/02 06:11 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

He has a patent pending, doesnt that make building the exact same thing illegal or am I way off base here?

As for construction, you figure it out. You dont need a pod to know how it works, its fairly simple!

Good luck,
Fd :mad: 


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
    #863989 - 09/04/02 06:11 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

okay lets recap... you can get the dome at http://www.haxnicks.com/victorian_bells.asp ... two large bells for 26, whatever that L shit is, (yen?)

you can get the grow rocks, for humidity at http://www.futuregarden.com/propagation/media_lecastone.html for anywhere from 10-40 bucks... (U.S.) i would get the 10 buck one since theyre infinitely reusable....

The bottom you can just go shopping at wallmart or equivalent nursery for pots... if theyres holes in them, just fill em up with glue or silicone glue, or tape, whatever.....

Airstones, air pumps at your local fish store place...

All together i think it would cost about... 80 bucks to make two equivalents of the 'hydra-pod'.... Oh yea, not including shipping either.. shipping hydrokorrel grow rocks is expensive.. i got a 50 lbs bag from future garden a few years ago for my hydroponics growing, only costed like 60 bucks for the product, but another 60 for shipping....

Try to find all the products around your home.. save on shipping, but i don't know of any other place that sells the domes...

just fill bottom with water, place airstone in, fill will hydrokorrel rocks untill about an inch flush with the container, turn on the pump and toss the lid on it...

I don't know what else is in the hydra-pod setup, but if you put two holes near the bottom for the c02 to escape, you get constant air exchange, high humidity, and its self contained....



In reply to:

He has a patent pending, doesnt that make building the exact same thing illegal or am I way off base here?




Well, yea, if its the exact same thing, but im sure theres bits and pieces that are specific to his product, like a special way of doing something, thats the only way to patent something... And if you make it youself, and don't sell it, then they can't charge you with anything... atleast i don't see the logic in it if they could..


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Edited by TripsAreForKids (09/04/02 06:25 PM)


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
    #863998 - 09/04/02 06:18 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Glad to know that you think the inventor has made enough money. Also thanks for telling us that he didn't do shit to deserve it'

WHO THE FUCK MADE YOU THE JUDGE.

YOU'RE AN ASS!!!!!!!!


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: TripsAreForKids]
    #864017 - 09/04/02 06:28 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I think Anno has posted a cheaper source for the cloche, btw. Personally, I have no interest in cake grows, so I haven't payed much attention.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: TripsAreForKids]
    #864099 - 09/04/02 07:13 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

In reply to:

And if you make it youself, and don't sell it, then they can't charge you with anything... atleast i don't see the logic in it if they could..




I dont think if they caught you with a mushroom cultivation setup that they would be worrying about patents :P


Edited by tak (09/04/02 07:14 PM)


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OfflineDolceRequiem
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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
    #864116 - 09/04/02 07:24 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

For christ's sake... First of all I never once said that Hydrapod "technology" was necessary or public domain. Nor did I say that the Hydrapod is the end all be all of cake cultivation. I just abhor his profiteering attitude towards these forums and the people who cultivate and wish to keep him from making money off of ignorant growers who are tricked by his rhetoric. If you've seen his webpage and you can cut through the commerical bullshit you'd see he's a shyster.
A few notes: not only does "patent pending" mean absolutely nothing (it means he's "trying" to get a patent, he has applied) but the fact that he hasn't got one so far proves further the mediocrity of his product. And btw Repobob, I make myself the judge, how do you like that? Or are you too spineless to stray? Go home to your suburban delights you little raver faggot.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
    #864242 - 09/04/02 08:38 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

By the powers invested(?) in me, declare Dolce the judge. I also declare repobob a #@!% &*#$. I origionally supported mc-man aka mycotek, for trying to come up with something different. Now that he has done everything possible to hide the "secrets", which prove it's worthless. if it was indeed that great, he would post the plans, and people would still buy from him.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek *DELETED* [Re: Shaw]
    #864281 - 09/04/02 08:59 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #864309 - 09/04/02 09:19 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Okay, now I finally have to put in my two cents.

Derrayld, you're totally talking out of your ass. You admittedly don't know the guy, you don't even know his handle! It's Mycotek, not Mycofile and the guy is a total snobbish know-it-all money grubbing asshole. I've had my dealings with him. He sucks, plain and simple. He is a very poor businessman who treats his customers like shit. For every 3 people who say something nice about him, there are ten who hate him.

If I were at all interested in fruiting pf cakes I'd do everythng in my ability to make sure he sold as few of those rip-off pods as possible by doing something along the lines of what Demitri did with the "Magic Grow Bucket". Fortunately for Mycotek, I only use pf to spawn with, and I have much beter things to do with my time than deal with taking down an asshole like him.

Mycotek is the type of vendor NOBODY needs. He deserves to be out of business.

Okay Mickey or Anno, you can lock this flaming shit thread now.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: TM]
    #864400 - 09/04/02 10:06 PM (14 years, 3 months ago)

My apologies TM I did miss-read the original post.
I thought you guys were flaming mycofile.
As far as mycotek goes, Whatever!!!
He can keep his shitty cake growing methods.
I like the poo.

I don`t want to fight, I just want to SING!!


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DolceRequiem]
    #864565 - 09/05/02 01:08 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

As I see it the only two difficult pieces left in making a Completely identical "Hydrapod" are how to efficently seal the edges of the base with rubber or what have you, and where to obtain a 16-17" plastic basin to hold all that geolite.
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For a geolite basin I believe you can go to a prospector's supply like Pro Mac and get a screen, plastic or metal that fits inside of a 5 gal paint bucket.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: groingrinder]
    #864583 - 09/05/02 01:50 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

I think a good option naturally would be silicone??
Another option would be bath sealent.
It`s a water and fungus repellent sealent that they use for the edging of baths when they get installed.
Should work really well.
The basin? well that`s ust dependant on the size you need.
I think primarily once everything has been purchased and constructed the size of the bowl will be known.



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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: DERRAYLD]
    #864666 - 09/05/02 04:44 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

The 18" bell (US source): store.yahoo.com/seedsofchange/newsolbelclo.html

The 15" bottom (still need weather stripping): www.farmbid.com/SuperStore/SuperStore-Product.asp?ProductID=106485

One place for a 24" flexible air diffuser: www.premiumaquatics.com/Merchant2/merchant.mv?Screen=PROD&Store_Code=PA&Product_Code=WON-AIR24&Category_Code=Flexible

the rest is simple.


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: tak_old]
    #864755 - 09/05/02 06:02 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

In reply to:

I dont think if they caught you with a mushroom cultivation setup that they would be worrying about patents :P




Only if your growing illegal mushrooms....


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: TripsAreForKids]
    #864821 - 09/05/02 07:11 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

What's the difference between a hydra-pod, and a terrarium with an aquarium pump bubbler, and hydrostone in the bottom?


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: Baby_Hitler]
    #864887 - 09/05/02 07:49 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

Aesthetics for the most part... hehe :grin: 


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Re: Hydrapod Construction, stop sucking up to Mycotek [Re: Fd3000]
    #864992 - 09/05/02 08:37 AM (14 years, 3 months ago)

i don't promote the theft of others idea's if you don't wanna pay $170 for a pod then don't. It's as simple as that.


Edited by psilocybinjunkie (09/05/02 09:16 AM)


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