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 tripndicular
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 Hydrogen Peroxide 
#842302 - 08/25/02 01:33 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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Has anyone here heard of using hydrogen peroxide as a sterilizing agent verses using pressure cooker etc...... ?
I am new to forum and growing , I have been doing a lot of research , and in my exploits have found some mention of a method using peroxide .
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no i have never heard of a tek only using hydrogen peroxide only. i know that hydrogen peroxide wont hurt the mycellium but i think it will kill spores.
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Read a bit more my friend.....the easy answer is no
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i think you are perhaps confusing pasturize and sterilize. hydorgen peroxide is not effective against large colonies of bacteria or multicellular organisms like mushroom mycelium. do a search on the subject, there are thousands of posts on it.
Edited by tchyted (08/25/02 02:29 PM)
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tripndicular
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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide [Re: tchyted]
#842641 - 08/25/02 05:07 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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No, according to the site I found it at , it is a method that is new to the edible mushroom community i.e. morrells , portobellos etc........ they mention the use in composted materials . I am not sure if method can be used in the growth of P.CUBES . They also mention the lack of normal equipment needed with the method .
That is why I have come here hoping to find someone with experience in growing my favorite species , that may understand the basic info described at web site I found . I do not want to buy from them if it cannot be applied to my project .
By the way , I am not expreienced at all in growing any fungi except athletes foot hahaha .
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what site?
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tripndicular
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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide [Re: wrestler_az]
#842652 - 08/25/02 05:10 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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mycomasters.com
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jimsuzo
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Peroxide is NOT a substitue for pressure cooking as it will kill the spores that come into contact with it. The most popular use of peroxide is either 1) spraying in a dilute solution on cased substratesor 2) for adding to the water that one adds to a perlite-floored terrarium. In either use, the ratio used is roughly 10 parts H20 to 1 part peroxide. It basically is good for killing and preventing fungus/mold. Hope this helps...
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tripndicular
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 Re: Hydrogen Peroxide [Re: jimsuzo]
#842801 - 08/25/02 06:14 PM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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Thanx , does help a bit . I will try by the rules of kit I am to get , then possibly buy the method to experiment with . It sounded as if it would help with contams alot without a lot of effort , and equipment . Of course they only say enough to interest you , not enough to apply it though .
Are you experienced in mycology ?
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mickey_rourke
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In reply to:
in my exploits have found some mention of a method using peroxide
You probably read about adding a bit of peroxide to agar or even mixing peroxide with spray water. Do a search for more info if you're curious.
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tripndicular
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No , it was an add of a sort , check it out , I need to read the site more for clues . I did a search on MSN for.......... mushroom "growing " , I found mycomasters.com .
If you have experience , please see what you can extract . I am not knowlegable in area ....yet !
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mickey_rourke
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If I'm not mistaken (haven't read the papers), those documents describe using peroxide to inhibit contaminants in your processes, not the substrates that you innoculate.
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I have heard of adding 10cc of peroxide to quart jars of grain when doing grain to grain transfers.
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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide [Re: jimsuzo]
#843373 - 08/26/02 02:18 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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Peroxide is NOT a substitue for pressure cooking as it will kill the spores that come into contact with it.
hrmn i added a bit o hydrogen peroxide to my pf jars before i sterelized them. will this make a difference later when i innoculate? im thinking yes, but tell me if im mistaken. i shure hope im not heating up sterile jars lmao... (newb if you cant tell)
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tripndicular
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They also mention using at prep of substrates . But I just scanned it some more , they seem to revolve around the use of paper pellets , wood fuel pellets etc .... have not found info on if applicable to compost grown mushrooms .
Definetly requires some investigation , experimentation .
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So with that said here is our mission statement .
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Re: Hydrogen Peroxide [Re: goatywoaty]
#844257 - 08/26/02 11:45 AM (22 years, 9 months ago) |
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it may have just been a fluke, but i recently had a successful inocculation with a syringe containing spores, water and h2o2. i had a rather large fruit that did not dry fast enough in the chamber and sporulated on some foil. i put the foil in sterile water with a small dash of peroxide, shook, drew into a syringe and innoculated a jar that had a very small patch of halted growth on one side (i innoculated on the other side). i checked the jar 7 days later to find a massive amount of mycelium on the h202 spore solution side. as there was already mycelium in the jar, i almost suspect that the jar was dehydrated and just needed more water. in any case, i have recently duplicated the experiment with a jar that has never been innoculated previously. i'll post an update on my findings in a few days.
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soochi
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In reasonable amounts h2o2 is completely safe on mycelium and is more commonly used to mist casings, when h2o2 is exposed for a prolonged time to sunlight and air it loses an oxygen molecule rendering it h2o which we all know is as safe as water!
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