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Re: So I got ripped off on Ebay! [Re: ManianFH]
    #8635165 - 07/14/08 08:27 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Probably the fact that he's a complete moron.


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Re: So I got ripped off on Ebay! [Re: TM]
    #8635172 - 07/14/08 08:28 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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TM said:
99% or more of PayPal sellers/buyers swear by it as being totally fair and reputable.





87% of statistics are made up on the spot, anyway most
buyers/sellers dont have to deal with conflict resolution
if you read through some old threads you see several of our
vendors had their account locked by paypal without any sort of
conflict or issues with buyers, the money in the accounts was
seized by paypal... seems honest enough for me


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Argue facts, not conjecture.




now that the auctionhouse owns the bank, there's a bigger conflict of interest

http://news.cnet.com/2100-1017-842240.html
http://www.computerworld.com/industrytopics/financial/story/0,10801,69716,00.html
http://www.paypalwarning.com/paypal_conflict_of_interest
http://www.aboutpaypal.org/
http://www.nopaypal.com/links.shtml
http://www.screw-paypal.com/paypal_lawsuits.html

the list continues for miles, all it take is for someone to say
"he didnt ship" or for a seller to ship an empty box for paypal
to step in and lock the accounts in question and in 6 months you
may have a resolution... been there, fuck paypal

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Re: So I got ripped off on Ebay! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8635199 - 07/14/08 08:34 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

im waiting TM for some kind of reasoning behind that nice post of yours


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ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: So I got ripped off on Ebay! [Re: ManianFH]
    #8635292 - 07/14/08 08:56 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I think most problems are the fault of the seller not Paypal.  If a seller sends an empty box their account should be locked and investigated.  Why would someone say their product wasn't shipped unless it wasn't?  6 months does seem a little long.  My problem was completely resolved in 2.5 wks., with hardly any work on my part.

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Re: So I got ripped off on Ebay! [Re: rick0909]
    #8635335 - 07/14/08 09:04 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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rick0909 said:
Why would someone say their product wasn't shipped unless it wasn't?




same reason someone would ship an empty box with a tracking
number, or ship a brick... money, it's scamming nothing more
it can work from either end and occasionally works from both

even their dispute resolution is a scam, dont trust Square Trade
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/3078461/

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Re: So I got ripped off on Ebay! [Re: Prisoner#1]
    #8635467 - 07/14/08 09:32 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Holy FUCK!!

1) If the seller is honest and ships the proper item that was paid for by the buyer, everything works PERFECTLY.

2) If the seller is a scam artist, PayPal investigates and finds in favor of the buyer.

3) If the buyer doesn't pay, the seller doesn't ship.

I've been using PayPal for 8 years, mainly for eBaY purchases and sales, and have had all of a whole TWO claims filed against sellers!

Both were found in my favor in less than 3 weeks and I recovered my money.

PayPal is pretty much flawless as far as I'm concerned.

As for selling intangible goods, the seller should be aware that "intangible" means "NO PROOF OF VALUE"!  Therfore PayPal cannot determine fault and the seller LOSES!

It's all plain and simple. If you cheat, you lose, if you're honest, you have no problem.

The complaints and gripes are all from dishonest fuckers who try to cheat people and the people whe get cheated.

I'm done with this thread.


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Re: So I got ripped off on Ebay! [Re: TM]
    #8635582 - 07/14/08 09:56 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Any notice on ebay shipping will be way more then the item...Say an item is .99, SH will be 20.00....

:rolleyes:


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Re: So I got ripped off on Ebay! [Re: TM]
    #8636333 - 07/15/08 03:40 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Quote:

TM said:

PayPal is pretty much flawless as far as I'm concerned.

As for selling intangible goods, the seller should be aware that "intangible" means "NO PROOF OF VALUE"!  Therfore PayPal cannot determine fault and the seller LOSES!

It's all plain and simple. If you cheat, you lose, if you're honest, you have no problem.






So because Paypal has no way of assessing the value of property that was sold to a buyer who maliciously exploited the system, it is the sellers fault, because the item is intangible.

This makes absolutely no sense.


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ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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Re: So I got ripped off on Ebay! [Re: ManianFH]
    #8636337 - 07/15/08 03:47 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Okay, definitely my last post in this thread...

YES!! It makes PERFECT sense! If a seller wants to take a CHANCE and sell an INTANGIBLE item on eBay, he should know that there's a risk of getting it sold to a CHEATING BUYER!

/outy


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I'll probably always do drugs, so that just contributes to the addiction to The Shroomery... It's a vicious circle of bliss. :tongue2:

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Re: So I got ripped off on Ebay! [Re: TM]
    #8636346 - 07/15/08 03:54 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

but this directly conflicts with your statement that 'if you're honest, you have no problem.'

I was honest and there were BIG problems man. god damnit I feel like AGAGGHAHGAHGAHGA GFUCK


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ChrisWho said: "It's all about the journey, not the destination."

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