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Rose
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Re: repercussions of suicide? [Re: Chronic7]
#8633760 - 07/14/08 02:37 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Chronic777 said: your right I Am in no condition, thank you very much for reminding me
My pleasure.
If 700 years old you are not... stop trying to talk like Yoda... Hmmph? Hmmph!
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Re: repercussions of suicide? [Re: Rose]
#8633768 - 07/14/08 02:38 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Hmmph? Hmmph!
Shit I did not hear that...!!? Get a room y'all...!!
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Bridgeburner
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god will put you in a bonfire for billions of years if you off yourself so don't do it kids. god is merciful.
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Re: repercussions of suicide? [Re: Bridgeburner]
#8633835 - 07/14/08 02:55 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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b0red5tiff said: god will put you in a bonfire for billions of years if you off yourself so don't do it kids. god is merciful.
I'd do an Indy Tantrum on the Lake of Fire if Satan would give me a pull. Probably has an X-Star or some sick ass boat... Turbo-Dies...?? I'll make him run it on Bio...!!
Satan: "Don't come running to me thinking you know your shit...!! Now dance and don't stop til yer body drops..."
*mmm sss mmm sss mmm sss mmm sss mmm sss*
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as long as they don't play MC Hammer i'm cool.
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Re: repercussions of suicide? [Re: Bridgeburner]
#8634036 - 07/14/08 03:46 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Shit. You might be out of luck. Hey... What happens in VEGAS stays in VEGAS... Ya heard?? Nothing is not perfect. If you show up and everybody has Hammer pants... You'd better find some. One man's hell is another's heaven. Like a themed Vacation Rental.
And Jesus's jaw drops... "Oh, Brother..." He says...
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Bridgeburner
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well everyone knows hell gets las vegases left-overs anyway.
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There are no personal repercussions for suicide, the only consequences are to the people that know you personally. Several seconds after your heart and breathing stops, you lose consciousness. As soon as this happens, you are no more (unless someone is to resuscitate you). Brain activity ceases measurable functions half a minute later. Substantial cellular injury accumulates in the brain at around 3 minutes. Several hours later (room temperature), the structures in the brain that encode memories, hopes, dreams, personality and your identity begin unravel (all relics of your consciousness gone forever). At this point your body is nothing more than a mass of autolytic cells, calcium deposits and protein structures. The vehicle that was once yours, is now on par with that of the bacterial flora in your colon.
Suicide leads to an accelerated biological entropy resulting in burden unto loved ones...
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I don't believe that anything happens to us after we die. Our bodies quit working; that's it. I don't believe in souls.
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Re: repercussions of suicide? [Re: Boots]
#8635499 - 07/14/08 09:39 PM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Thanks for getting this back on topic lol
I know where you guys are coming from because a while back I didn't think we had souls.....but let me ask you what do you think you are? The real you, the you that's behind everything, not your personality, not your feelings and emotions, not who you pretend to be in certain crowds, and not the labels that you attach to yourself. I'm talking about who you really are, the one who's reading this very sentence right now. There's no part of the brain that you can point to and say "oh that's me right there, that's the me that's experiencing everything and knows that it's experiencing it while its experiencing it". They've tried looking for that you in the brain and couldn't find it. This among other things means to me that the you that's really you is the soul, or you could say consciousness to not sound religious, and it's merely attached to your body for the time being, but will still exist after the physical body dies.
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wyldeman007
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I am aware.
All that makes up consciousness is an ensemble of independent realizations cascading throughout a cerebral cortex, resulting in simultaneous, autonomous assumptions of rationalizations whilst accumulating expendable information.
You can think of the mind as a bag of tricks, a factory in a sense, with nobody home, convincing itself that it is aware. Your brain can actually skip the step of self-realization and ultimately attain it simply by assuming it already has.
Daniel Dennet stuff... I don't know how accurate I mirror his genius...
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Re: repercussions of suicide? [Re: wyldeman007]
#8635959 - 07/15/08 12:09 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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What you've said is just a list of general theories based on the assumption that there is no soul. I don't think that is a good argument against the existence of a soul since it automatically assumes that there isn't one without considering the contrary.
Don't be too quick to rule things out, certain experiences can easily change what you believe.
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dblaney
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bloodbrother778 said:They've tried looking for that you in the brain and couldn't find it. This among other things means to me that the you that's really you is the soul, or you could say consciousness to not sound religious, and it's merely attached to your body for the time being, but will still exist after the physical body dies.
What would you expect to find? A little guy running around your brain giving orders and commands? Let's be realistic here.
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Re: repercussions of suicide? [Re: dblaney]
#8636178 - 07/15/08 01:33 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Yes that's exactly what I expect them to find! And until they find that little guy I will stick to thinking that we have souls!
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I used to be an atheist, but some of my most powerful experiences changed me, I've come to understand that there is a god
Your whole post makes no sense to me. I thought you said you didn't believe anything.
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bloodbrother778 said: I was wondering do you guys think there are any post death repercussions that suicide might bring?
Absolutely no possible way of knowing, now is there?
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Re: repercussions of suicide? [Re: wyldeman007]
#8637007 - 07/15/08 09:23 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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wyldeman007 said: There are no personal repercussions for suicide
Liar. You have absolutely no way of knowing that.
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bloodbrother778 said: I was wondering do you guys think there are any post death repercussions that suicide might bring?
Absolutely no possible way of knowing, now is there?
that doesn't mean you have to fear it.
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Re: repercussions of suicide? [Re: Icelander]
#8637076 - 07/15/08 09:49 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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Icelander said: I used to be an atheist, but some of my most powerful experiences changed me, I've come to understand that there is a god
Your whole post makes no sense to me. I thought you said you didn't believe anything.
That's right, and if you pulled your head out of your butt you'd see that I said I UNDERSTAND that there is a god, not BELIEVE that there is one, there's a difference, I don't just blindly believe in it based on nothing but faith, I've come to that realization through some life changing psychedelic experiences.
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Re: repercussions of suicide? [Re: Bridgeburner]
#8637122 - 07/15/08 10:08 AM (15 years, 8 months ago) |
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b0red5tiff said: well everyone knows hell gets las vegases left-overs anyway.
Kinda funny. Before I dove into hell I was editing tit shots out of Greg Thompson's Show Girls in Seattle so that we could air the footage for a more conservative audience. Show was topless. I had to keep the choreography in tact, to the music, while cutting all the boobs...?? Yer fuckin Kidding. Shit made me snap. I came to work dead with the pressure in my eyes. That didn't go over to well. They wanted to give me a raise but I bailed. Cool job, should have stayed. Something dark about those cats though. Out of place... Vegas shit out of Seattle...?? Not cool. At least the secretary drove a Prius. Greg himself was all Rolls and Jags, Marylin Monroe lookin wife... Fuckin Vegas...?? Seattle...?? Art School then Vegas...?? Bad feeling about this...
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