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Airport scans for illegal downloads
#8626268 - 07/12/08 05:03 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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awesome. 
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/connected/main.jhtml?xml=/connected/2008/07/10/nairport110.xml
Pods, mobile phones and laptops could be examined by airport customs officials for illegal downloads under strict new counterfeiting measures being considered by G8 governments this week, it is claimed.
The measures form part of an international agreement aimed at stamping out piracy, but there are fears that individuals who have illegally downloaded songs or video clips on to MP3 players and phones for personal use could also be caught out.
They coincide with plans by the European Parliament for Internet Service Providers to be held liable if their users download illegal content, and in extreme cases, forced to disconnect people who are doing so.
Illegal downloading and piracy represents the biggest single problem faced by the music, film and publishing industries, and many have been lobbying governments to introduce tough new rules to help stamp out the practice.
Earlier this month, Virgin Media resorting to writing to customers warning them that their internet services would be terminated if they persisted in file sharing. So far, little has been revealed about the Anti-Counterfeiting Trade Agreement being considered by the G8 nations, apart from a mention in the organisation's "Declaration on the World Economy" published this week.
Backing the development of the new agreement, it said: "Effective promotion and protection of Intellectual Property Rights are critical to the development of creative products, technologies and economies."
A leak to a technology website revealed that the focus of Acta was "border measures, particularly how to deal with large-scale intellectual property infringements, which can frequently involve criminal elements".
However, a footnote saying that those signing up to Acta should put in place "provisions related to criminal enforcement and border measures to be applied at least in cases of trademark counterfeiting and copyright piracy", has generated intense speculation about what it could mean for the individual.
Recent research by the British Music Rights group found that the average teenager and student has 800 illegal downloads on their MP3 player. The suggestion that the new laws could be used by customs to scan MP3 players, mobiles and laptops for illegal downloads is just one of a number of potential measures that is causing concern in the technology world, leading to fevered debate about the implications on a number of websites.
Another is that mobile phone companies could contact their customers to warn them off sharing video clips. However, a source representing record labels said the practice of checking iPods and phones was unworkable.
"It is more likely to be about customs having the powers to intercept large shipments of raw materials and vast packages of MP3s with prerecorded content," he said.
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Re: Airport scans for illegal downloads [Re: white_noise]
#8626692 - 07/12/08 07:18 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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How will they be able to tell that my mp3s on my mp3 player are not rips from CDs that I purchased? Or that I paid for the digital download of the songs?
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DieCommie


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You are not allowed to rip MP3s from a CD you purchased.
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Re: Airport scans for illegal downloads [Re: DieCommie]
#8626792 - 07/12/08 07:48 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Really?
Wikipedia:
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However, in oral arguments before the Supreme Court in MGM Studios, Inc. v. Grokster, Ltd., Don Verrilli, representing MGM stated:
"And let me clarify something I think is unclear from the amicus briefs. The record companies, my clients, have said, for some time now, and it's been on their Website for some time now, that it's perfectly lawful to take a CD that you've purchased, upload it onto your computer, put it onto your iPod. There is a very, very significant lawful commercial use for that device, going forward."[5]
Oh but wait:
http://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2006/02/riaa-says-ripping-cds-your-ipod-not-fair-use
hahaha
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Re: Airport scans for illegal downloads [Re: DieCommie]
#8627232 - 07/12/08 09:52 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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DieCommie said: You are not allowed to rip MP3s from a CD you purchased.
In the US you are, fair use
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How will they be able to tell that my mp3s on my mp3 player are not rips from CDs that I purchased? Or that I paid for the digital download of the songs?
Many illegal media and software files have a unique MD5 checksum that would not be found on legit media. An illegally ripped and shared mp3 for example, or the .zip of a cracked application.
Sounds like its time for everyone to start using full disk encryption.
When you do the Debian install you can set up the partitions as encrypted. It asks for a password on boot and without it there will be no forensic examination.
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DieCommie


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Re: Airport scans for illegal downloads [Re: johnm214]
#8628060 - 07/13/08 03:08 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
johnm214 said:
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DieCommie said: You are not allowed to rip MP3s from a CD you purchased.
In the US you are, fair use
Well, like he shows above the RIAA doesnt consider it fair use. But that is just their wishes, I dont think the courts have set a precedent showings its not fair use (I hope).
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Re: Airport scans for illegal downloads [Re: DieCommie]
#8628089 - 07/13/08 03:29 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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Hmm, i couldn't find anything in a quick search, which was suprising.
So I guess your right that its not clear per caselaw, that I've found in a quick search, though I'd certainly argue the text of statute makes it fair use.
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Seuss
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Re: Airport scans for illegal downloads [Re: johnm214]
#8628124 - 07/13/08 03:48 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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So if I understand this correctly, TSA and HLS were so good at stopping terrorists they now have nothing better to do so they are moving on to stopping "illegal" music and videos from crossing the boarder? If they really want to stop something illegal from crossing the boarder, maybe they should focus on aliens (the illegal kind, not the space kind) rather than data.
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Re: Airport scans for illegal downloads [Re: Seuss]
#8629936 - 07/13/08 04:17 PM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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I guess I just plainly don't understand that if I purchase a CD and rip it to mp3 so that I can listen to it in the only portable music player that I now own, I am somehow a criminal. Who owns a discman still???
Does the RIAA want me to not only purchase the extremely overpriced CD but also pay for a digital download of the same album?
You piss off the consumer long enough and they'll resort to not paying for anything!
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Boom
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This can't actually happen...it would take forever - and I would never want some random customs agent to scan my files, who the hell would give the ok to log in so that someone could look at all your shit?
This is an insane privacy concern if it really happens, which I highly doubt it will.
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Re: Airport scans for illegal downloads [Re: Boom]
#8632350 - 07/14/08 03:46 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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They have been practicing for some time now.
http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-laptops26-2008jun26,0,4415017.story
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For several years, U.S. officials have been searching and seizing laptops, digital cameras, cellphones and other electronic devices at the border with few publicly released details.
I'm SO GLAD I live in Europe. It'll be at least another year before we start doing the same
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Seuss
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Re: Airport scans for illegal downloads [Re: Boom]
#8632374 - 07/14/08 04:20 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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> This is an insane privacy concern if it really happens, which I highly doubt it will.
Already happens. I've seen it first hand (by Canadian customs) more than once.
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Re: Airport scans for illegal downloads [Re: Seuss]
#8632560 - 07/14/08 07:00 AM (15 years, 10 months ago) |
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So how do they do it? What happens if one is found illegal? Can you fight it?
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This is just another way for big brother to access your personal information. They're simply using "illegal downloads" as an excuse to search your hard drive.
Ladies and gentleman thank you for riding the freedom train, next stop, the new world order
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