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OfflineMr_Puke
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Artical i found in the paper today
    #861594 - 09/03/02 01:34 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Ranchers' Problem Mushrooms

Artical out of the Orlando Sentinel
Local&State
Tuesday, September 3, 2002
Section B

Rain has brought psychedelic fungi --- and people seeking them --- to pastures

By Pamela J. Johnson

  Around midnight, looking out his window after a recent storm, Jim Adams saw tiny beams of light in his cow pasture.
  "It wasn't much of a moon, but i could faintly see shadows moving in my field," Adams recounted
  He grabbed his rifle, went outside and confronted intruders who had come on to his pasture not to rustle his cows but to make off with mushrooms.
  Crouched with their flashlights over piles of manure, they were seeking "magic mushrooms" --- psychedelic fungi that sprout in cow dung after the rain.
  As Adams raced toward them, the trepassers dashed back to their truck parked nearby. "Hey, I saw you climb through my fence!" he hollered at them. "You were trespassing."
  "No, sir," One replied. "We were just taking a walk in the neighborhood."
  Angery cattle ranchers throughout Central Florida --- a region awash in nearly daily deluges --- says they're chasing off the mushroom hunters several times a week.
  "I've had nothing but trouble since the rains began," said Adams, who manages 2,000 acres where he keeps 300 head of cattle in east Orange county. "This year has been worse than ever."

Trespassers let cows out
    It's not only trespassing that enrages ranch owners. To gain access to fields, the culprits cut wire fences or kick down wooden gates. At times, cows get out. Some have been rounded up on congested roadways, such as State Road 20.
  On Aug. 22, Orange County deputy sheriffs shot and killed five cows from the Desert Ranch that had wandered onto the Bee Line Expressway and were creating traffic havoc. Officals did not know whether mushroom hunters were responsible.
  Some of Adam's cattle got out recently and wandered to Lake Pickett Road.
  "It's just a matter of time before somebody gets killed," Adams said. "A car could hit a cow and --- wham! --- that would be it" --- for the cow and, perhaps the driver who hit it.
  Adams said some of the trespassers he has caught have told him they learned on the internet about the Bithlo and Christmas cattle ranches and their crops of mind-blowing mushrooms.
  The mushrooms contrain psilocybin, a chemical that causes hallucinations when ingested. They grow in manure after rainstorms when temperatures reach 65 to 85 degrees. Because of their rank smell, the fungi are usually dried before consumed. They may be steeped in tea or mixed in soup.
  For centuries, magic mushrooms have been harvested around the world and eaten for their psychedelic effects. Many species contain psilocybin, and not all of them grow in cow manure.
  When mushroom pickers see Adams racing toward them with a rifle, they often leave behind a basket, plastic bag, or backpack filled with mushrooms.(no shit?) Once Adams found a cell phone in the middle of his pastures.
  Adams has called Orange County deouty sheriffs, but by the time they arrive, the tresspassers usually are gone. It's not unusual to wait an hour for help to arrive, ranchers say. At times they say, a deputy dosen't show up at all.
  Sheriff's officials admit that such calls in the past have taken a low priority. But as a result of the growing problem, sheriff's drug agents in east Orange say they plan to step up enforcement efforts.
  Deputy Sheriif Randy Armstrong, whose territory covers east Orange, said he issues about a dozen trespassering warnings and citations a month, althought he said the number of rancher complaints is much higher.
  "I'm being a nice guy by giving them a ticket or a warning," Armstrong said. "If I wanted to, i could haul them off to jail."
  Ranchers wish deputies would take off the kid gloves.
  "You call the sheriff's department and tell them you got a mushroom picker in your pasture, and you're on the bottom of the list," said Gerald Simmons, president of the Orange County Cattlemen's Association, which represents 105 ranchers.
  "You could be holding a gun on them for two hours waiting," said Simmons, who owns tow small cattle ranches in east Orange.


Law Rarely enforced


  Sheriff's drug agent Robert Curtin said a Florida law pertaining to psilocybin is rarely enforced.
  Psilocybin is considered a controlled substance under Florida law, the same as opium or LSD; anyone caught possessing psilocybin mushrooms could face third-degree felony charges. There also are dangers of accidentally gathering a poisonous mushroom or having a "bad trip" from a psilocybin mushroom, agents said.
  But to charge someone, a deputy making an arrest would have to identify the mushrooms as having psilocybin. There is no test kid, as there are for drugs such as LSD or cocaine.
  Curtin said few deputies have that kind of expertise, and the ones who do rarely get an opportunity to make such arrests. Drug agents usually work undercover searching for drug dealers.
  And mushroom pickers typically do not sell the drug.
  In fact, officals said only a handful of mushroom pickers were charnged with drug possesion in Orange Country in the past year.
  To complicate mushroom pickers are not always trespassing on private property. They often hunt mushrooms on state-owned property, where cattle owners lease the pastureland.
  That's when Officer Brain Baine of the Florida Fish & WIldlife Conservation Commission is sometimes called.
  Recently, Baine questioned two young men from Miami found picking mushriims in east Orange.
  Althrough they were not technically trespassing, Baine issused them a trespassing warning.
  "The state is still steward of the land," Baine said. John Tanner manages thousands of acres of state and county owned land where he keeps cattle in Christmas.
  An hour after it rains, he spies the mushrooms pickers in the field. Recently, a picker cut off a gate lock on county owned property, and some of the cows got out and were found on State Road 50.
  Stomping on a mushroom with a cowboy boot, Tanner said he is fed up with mushroom pickers.
  "I tell them, "Hey, kids, respect my property,' " Tanner said. "I'll let you go this time, but don't come back!"
  "All they do is give me the finger."



Sorry for any spelling errors  :grin:


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Re: Artical i found in the paper today [Re: Mr_Puke]
    #861606 - 09/03/02 01:38 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

excellent post.....it seems that the officers are very lax down there...probably get those "flashlight in field" calls all the time down there in cub county....nice post...


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Re: Artical i found in the paper today [Re: strang]
    #861641 - 09/03/02 01:55 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I dont personally hunt myself. But thought you guys would dig it. And i KNOW those kids they spoke of have to come here. Which one of you is it???  :grin: :grin:


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Re: Artical i found in the paper today [Re: Mr_Puke]
    #861656 - 09/03/02 02:04 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

hahahaha i live in orlando and have gotten caught on state land after a mushroom hunt =) i really don't think people disrespect their fields though. like who the fuck brings bolt cutters to get mushrooms when you just go between the barbed wire?


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Re: Artical i found in the paper today [Re: Macey Howard]
    #861810 - 09/03/02 03:19 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Come onnnnnnnnnn!!! Someone fess up!  :tongue:


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Re: Artical i found in the paper today [Re: Mr_Puke]
    #862043 - 09/03/02 05:33 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Hi Mr. Puke, thanks for the information. I will contact the newspaper to inform them that fresh psilocybine mushrooms are not illegal in Florida.

Is there any chance you could s3end me a xerox of the new article.

I would gladly donate a Camodian Copelandia cyanescens print to you for the effort.

mj.

pm me about this.

thanks


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Re: Artical i found in the paper today [Re: mjshroomer]
    #862139 - 09/03/02 06:31 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Sure i'll try and get a photo copy of the whole thing for you. And the lady who wrote it her email is pjohnson@orlandosentinel.com or 1-407-420-5171


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Re: Artical i found in the paper today [Re: Macey Howard]
    #862358 - 09/03/02 09:01 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

hhhaaaaa
who let the cows out hahhha
excellent


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Re: Artical i found in the paper today [Re: Mr_Puke]
    #862733 - 09/04/02 04:00 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

This was a great post, wel writen and informative.


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Re: Artical i found in the paper today [Re: mjshroomer]
    #863728 - 09/04/02 03:39 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

GGood article and i thank you for posting this.

Mushrooms.. florida.. man, there are a whole lot of mushrooms in florida cow pastures..

Keep shroomin,

Oh and mjshroomer,
YYou can notify the newspapers and such,
but the laws on Psilocybin Shrooms here in florida,
Have been bent by law-enforcement/judicial system.

IIt could possibly be bullshit,
But i do believe it is curtains for the one last state in
Exeption from the law on these mushroomies.

Keep on shroomin,
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Re: Artical i found in the paper today [Re: GGreatOne234]
    #863753 - 09/04/02 03:59 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

Wow awesome article.  Used to live in the Winterpark area near Orlando back in 92.  Went picking a bunch of times.  Biggest goddam mushrooms I have ever seen.  Always had good luck picking.  Never ran into any trouble. 

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Re: Artical i found in the paper today [Re: Mr_Puke]
    #865021 - 09/05/02 08:58 AM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I am sure ppl have let their cows out. But I bet it has little to do with ppl hunting mushrooms. Sorta sad to see them rack on the offenses as they do. It is tipical of some news articals exagerate(sp?) situations. But who knows, mabey some punks did let his cows out while hunting.


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Re: Artical i found in the paper today [Re: Mr_Puke]
    #865663 - 09/05/02 03:52 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

In reply to:

And i KNOW those kids they spoke of have to come here. Which one of you is it???




*raises hand*

But see, when I goto the field, I don't cut fences, or locks, or knock down fences, tip over cows, or give them a hard time... I just go there, find what im there for and leave the place just like it was, minus a few mushrooms...

Numerous times have I run into farmers, and I don't run, I talk to them, tell them I'm just picking mushrooms, that I stay away from the cattle, and don't do anything to the fences... They usually either say I don't give a hoot, get the fuck out of here before the cops get here, or they just talk to us for a while and ask us if they know whos fuckin up their fences...

As long as your civil about it, farmers around here don't care...

I've even run into farmers in their own fields hunting for mushrooms... One time I was out there with a buddy of mine, picked atleast 50 caps and ran into another guy out there... He showed us his find, and I asked him if the farmer ever comes out to make sure noone's in his field... he said "yea, he does but he doesn't usually care".... Then he started walking us towards the farmers house, and we got about 50 yards from the house and I told the guy this was close enough, he said, 'no this is where the good finds are at.' lo and behold, there was a large compost pile behind the house with TONS of shrooms... Then the guy walks up to the back door and walked in, and yelled out 'I'm going in, have fun."....


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Edited by TripsAreForKids (09/05/02 03:54 PM)


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Re: Artical i found in the paper today [Re: MycoThaikoh]
    #872488 - 09/09/02 02:44 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

I'd estimate about mid 40's, im pretty sure that he was the owner of the land...


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Re: Artical i found in the paper today [Re: TripsAreForKids]
    #872802 - 09/09/02 05:12 PM (14 years, 5 months ago)

....It's all about jumping barbed wire fences,
They are not really meant to be hopped over..,
You jump a fence by stepping down on the barbed wire,
After a couple hundred times the wire will break..
Or the wires will get old and rusted and the fasteners rust off
Or maybe somebody hops the fence in the wrong place
And the fence breaks.
Or, in the case of the "metal gates" used by the farmer to
Enter and exit his field in his pick-up truck.
-When somebody hops over the same gate, after a while
The gate is not quite fastened down as tightly as the farmer remembers.

When you are dealing with fields in the state of Florida (in particular),
Then you are dealing with fields that (one time or another) has had a mushroom hunter or two or three that have been secretly looking for mushrooms on it. People want at those mushrooms and the most stressful action involved in trespassing to gain access to psychoactive Shrooms, is usually the point that they get to the fence look around for farmers/police and then nervously climb over the barbed wire,

Then of course there are better or safer spots on each field to enter, if you pick a difficult part of the fence to hop over, maybe the fence is too tall or there is water, flooding, dense trees and bugs and other natural distractions that can make the nervous fence hopper get caught on the barbed wire and rip their clothes or accidently get cut or scratched by the wire.

Maybe the cows will be sitting there eating grass and watching a mushroom hunter person jumping this fence and..those cows are really simple characters and they panic very easily and yeah then they escape and it is not easy to deal with an escaped cow.

I want to get a couple of my own cows but i do not have the type of land needed to have them yet. I would get upset if either of my two cows escaped. And if somebody else was to blame for me loosing my lovely cows then i would probably not be happy for them to come back and loose the two more cows that i had to buy to replace them.

Anyways,
The icon i used to reply says it all,  :grin:

Keep shroomin,
GG 


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