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Re: Update on 100% coir spawn - casing [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8741305 - 08/07/08 10:31 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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what are you doing AFTER you dunk? sounds like you are getting a shitty pinset after dunking.. that would explain the lack of mushies.. How are you treating the casing after you dunk?




After the 1st flush I dunked it with running water for an hour then recased with jiffy mix just a little on the top and edges where it shrank from the sides of the tub.  I didn't dunk the casing.. just the substrate.  The casing was all washed away by the dunking so I recased.  This is the first time I've tried this so I have no idea what I'm doing really.. just going on the advice I've read through the forums.  Basically I did it because I wasn't seeing any new pins or growth so I thought it might be too dry.  The uncased tray I had of amazons did a fairly small 2nd flush with large fruits.  I wasn't very impressed with that one either.  I just don't think coir presents enough nutrients for the mushies to get good follow up flushes.  Next round if I can't get ahold of some hpoo and straw to use I'm adding gypsum and spent coffee grounds so hopefully that will help.

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Re: Update on 100% coir spawn - casing [Re: jeetered]
    #8741319 - 08/07/08 10:33 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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he's recasing, and it's not practical.




Do you think I should just flip the tub and leave the sub sitting on the lid so I have 5 sides of sub exposed for fruiting?  Maybe I could force a better pinset that way and avoid dealing with the casing?

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Re: Update on 100% coir spawn - casing [Re: wissper]
    #8741320 - 08/07/08 10:33 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Add some dehydrated chicken poo too!!!:poop:


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Re: Update on 100% coir spawn - casing [Re: wasting_space]
    #8742882 - 08/08/08 08:21 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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Add some dehydrated chicken poo too!!!:poop:




Dehydrated isn't nearly as important as COMPOSTED.  If it's not composted, it will have too much urea for mushroom growing.

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Re: Update on 100% coir spawn - casing [Re: Sillicybin]
    #8743023 - 08/08/08 09:12 AM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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I just don't think coir presents enough nutrients for the mushies to get good follow up flushes.




very untrue.. I, and alot of others, get HUGE flushes from straight coir.. I get at least 3 nice, solid flushes.. it may have been the spores that germinated.. It could very well be a genetic trait for that substrain, that makes it flush for shit..

try another syringe or just use the same to noc up some more jars.. I mean, if you dunk it, it will flush.. if its not, then something is awry..

how long are you waiting after you re-case it to put it back in fruiting conditions? are you just putting the casing on and starting fae and light again? if you are, thats your problem..

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Re: Update on 100% coir spawn - casing [Re: DJYoshaBYD]
    #8745785 - 08/08/08 07:23 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

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I just don't think coir presents enough nutrients for the mushies to get good follow up flushes.




very untrue.. I, and alot of others, get HUGE flushes from straight coir.. I get at least 3 nice, solid flushes.. it may have been the spores that germinated.. It could very well be a genetic trait for that substrain, that makes it flush for shit..

try another syringe or just use the same to noc up some more jars.. I mean, if you dunk it, it will flush.. if its not, then something is awry..

how long are you waiting after you re-case it to put it back in fruiting conditions? are you just putting the casing on and starting fae and light again? if you are, thats your problem..




What should I do after I recase post-dunk?  re-incubate?  I had advice not to re-incubate after dunking just to case it and put it back in the FC. Obviously that's not working really well.. at least not this batch.

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Re: Update on 100% coir spawn - casing [Re: wissper]
    #8745855 - 08/08/08 07:40 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

I have received very nice 2nd 3rd and 4th flushes by lightly scraping the casing layer off with the serrated edge of a steak knife and dunking my casing for a few hours..Then applying a small amount of verm and placing the sub back in my fc...


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Re: Update on 100% coir spawn - casing [Re: wasting_space]
    #8746149 - 08/08/08 08:29 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Oatman

here's my latest results following the coir









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Re: Update on 100% coir spawn - casing [Re: jeetered]
    #8755862 - 08/10/08 10:45 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Here's the results from the dunked tub of PESA.  Nothing major as far as numbers (only 3 big and 1 small) but the size was great.











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Re: Update on 100% coir spawn - casing [Re: wissper]
    #8756187 - 08/10/08 11:44 PM (15 years, 7 months ago)

Nice, you got about 2 solid trips right there. :thumbup:


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Re: Update on 100% coir spawn - casing [Re: wissper]
    #8848903 - 08/29/08 06:53 PM (15 years, 6 months ago)

WOW!
:wink::thumbup:

You followed the tek to a "T"
Kudo's for following the directions and getting some good fruits!

Guess i should be following these posts a bit more often.
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Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: wissper]
    #9959254 - 03/12/09 04:23 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

how much of coir/coffee do you use

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Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: mobcali]
    #9960054 - 03/12/09 06:24 PM (15 years, 10 days ago)

I use no coffee anymore.

And now i use 2 quarts to 1 brick which make 2 tubs.
it's stretching it...I know, but my TC's are agressive and I seem to get more fruits than 3quarts per brick.


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Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: Oatman2000]
    #9978079 - 03/15/09 07:28 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

i have a 54Qt tub that is 14x18 and i was wondering how much Coir do i use?

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Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: mobcali]
    #9978122 - 03/15/09 07:38 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

If you were doing a tub that was 14x18 and 5 inches and depending on what your spawn ratio is.

Ratio

1:1  You would need 11 quarts of substrate 
1:2  You would need 16 quarts of substrate
1:3  You would need 18 quarts of substrate
1:4  You would need 20 quarts of substrate

Coir brick is about 8-9 quarts sooo..

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Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: Damion5050]
    #9978145 - 03/15/09 07:44 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

I bought a spawn bag form TMS. i think its roughly 1Lb.

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Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: mobcali]
    #9978150 - 03/15/09 07:45 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

Thats roughly one quart maybe 2 at the most that is not enough to spawn to coir in that big of a tray or tub

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Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: Damion5050]
    #9978197 - 03/15/09 07:55 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

what would be your thoughts on what to do with my spawn bag then?
I also have 2 one pint jars 

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Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: mobcali]
    #9978212 - 03/15/09 07:57 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

You can spawn it just as it is if you wanted too, it's called invitro.  I would learn to do grains or cakes if I was you.. Go down to my signature and click the link that says USEFUL LINKS FOR ANYONE AND EVERYONE.. and do some research.

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Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: Damion5050]
    #9978233 - 03/15/09 08:03 PM (15 years, 7 days ago)

Thanks

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