Home | Community | Message Board

MagicBag Grow Bags
This site includes paid links. Please support our sponsors.


Welcome to the Shroomery Message Board! You are experiencing a small sample of what the site has to offer. Please login or register to post messages and view our exclusive members-only content. You'll gain access to additional forums, file attachments, board customizations, encrypted private messages, and much more!

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags

Jump to first unread post Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | Next >  [ show all ]
Some of these posts are very old and might contain outdated information. You may wish to search for newer posts instead.
Offlinewissper
The Mushroom Man (in training)
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/10/08
Posts: 193
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized)
    #8610446 - 07/08/08 10:28 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Here's my first attempt at a 100%25 coir spawn (oatman 2000's tek):

I chose to line the entire box with foil rather than just the inside just because it was easier with the type of foil I had.. I'm sure lining just the bottom part works just as well.



I did 2 bricks of coir with 2 gallons of boiling water and left it in the bucket for an hour before mixing it around and putting it in the 12qt sweater boxes.  I should have waited longer.  An hour is probably ok for 1 brick but 2 takes significantly longer to cool down to a temperature that's cool enough for handling.  By the time I got about half way down the bucket I hit the hotter coir and I am hoping it didn't hurt the myc even though I tried to cool it down a bit.  so for reference I'd say a couple of hours of cool down time for 2 bricks.





I used 3 quart spawn jars 1 jar for each tub.  1 ecuador and 2 PESA.



I laid down the coir bed about 3-4 inches thick along the bottom of the tub.



I then used about half the jar in the center of the substrate and mixed that in thoroughly so that the entire bed was mixed up with myc for faster colonizing.



After that I put some more coir on top of the myc and laid down the rest of the jar on top evenly layered across the bed.



The last one I had too much left in the jar to leave on top of the bed so I mixed it just a bit in the upper layer of the substrate so it would have something to munch on  :donut:



I covered the top with foil and punched pencil sized holes - then covered with micropore tape for gas exchange.



So in about 10 days we should know whether I did this all right or all wrong :grin:

Special thanks to oatman2000 for this tek - straight forward and to the point... exactly the way I like the ladies  :69: 

Note: During this tek I got so caught up in exactly following the tek as laid out by oatman that I forgot I wanted to add a bit of vermiculite to the mix for aeration.  I don't think this will cause much of a problem because the coir is moist enough and it seems very airy so I don't see a clumping problem too much for the amount of time it will need to colonize.  Guess I'll find out soon enough :thumbup:

Party on!

:partykid:

Edited by wissper (07/08/08 10:31 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisibleavidpicker
funnycolorsinmymushrooms
 User Gallery


Registered: 08/08/06
Posts: 1,388
Loc: Mushroom Mountain
Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: wissper]
    #8610473 - 07/08/08 10:36 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

:goodluck:


--------------------
 

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMHbound
Ballin Out At All Cost
Male

Registered: 09/24/07
Posts: 6,512
Loc: Under The Rainbow
Last seen: 6 years, 11 months
Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: avidpicker]
    #8610540 - 07/08/08 10:55 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Nice keep us updated. :thumbup:


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineBrandNewbie
Captain
Male


Registered: 05/21/08
Posts: 2,932
Loc: U.S.A.
Last seen: 4 years, 9 months
Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: MHbound]
    #8610999 - 07/09/08 01:06 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Looks like you're following the TEK! PM me so you know where to send my free spore print!  :wink:


--------------------
Question: Why do women wear make-up and perfume? 
Answer: Because they're ugly and they stink.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewissper
The Mushroom Man (in training)
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/10/08
Posts: 193
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: wissper]
    #8628678 - 07/13/08 09:32 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Update:  July 13th

Here's the pics from the 5th day of substrate colonization.








I'm thinking in a couple of more days they should be pretty much ready to case and fruit!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineMHbound
Ballin Out At All Cost
Male

Registered: 09/24/07
Posts: 6,512
Loc: Under The Rainbow
Last seen: 6 years, 11 months
Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: wissper]
    #8629028 - 07/13/08 11:40 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Looks nice. I can't wait to see what it does during fruiting. I think you'll be happy.


--------------------

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewissper
The Mushroom Man (in training)
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/10/08
Posts: 193
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: MHbound]
    #8629045 - 07/13/08 11:44 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Yeah I think so too.  They're fluffy and gorgeous right now =)  I'm trying to decide on how to case - i have jiffy mix and coarse verm on site, but I think I will need to add some gypsum to balance the ph over the long term.  Gotta order that so it'll be here in time for casing these bad boys.  Maybe some crushed oyster shells too for good measure.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblejeetered
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/07/06
Posts: 3,055
Loc: no clue
Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: wissper]
    #8629076 - 07/13/08 11:52 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

The only one thing i see wrong, well, undesirable, not wrong, is the shallow  substrate depth, otherwise it looks GREAT!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewissper
The Mushroom Man (in training)
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/10/08
Posts: 193
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: jeetered]
    #8629097 - 07/13/08 11:57 AM (15 years, 8 months ago)

The substrate is 4" deep.  it's covered with foil all the way down.  These are 12qt sweater boxes and are almost filled to the top leaving just enough room for a casing layer.  The pictures are deceiving because I barely lifted the foil to take the shots.

Edited by wissper (07/13/08 11:57 AM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Invisiblejeetered
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/07/06
Posts: 3,055
Loc: no clue
Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: wissper]
    #8629114 - 07/13/08 12:01 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

wow the picutre looks like it's very very shallow.

SO NEVERMIND!!

GREAT WORK!

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleLedd
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/04/08
Posts: 1,200
Loc: Innerspace Flag
Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: jeetered]
    #8629166 - 07/13/08 12:22 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

So coir is nutritious enough to be used as substrate, and is often used in casing layers? Anyone want to help me understand this better?


--------------------
We mean nothing we do not mean to do.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewissper
The Mushroom Man (in training)
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/10/08
Posts: 193
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: Ledd]
    #8629204 - 07/13/08 12:32 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I don't think I'd use coir as a casing layer for that exact reason.  It'd just extend my substrate rather than case the microclimate.  But I have heard of others using it .. maybe they sterilized it and killed off the nutes first?  I don't know.  I'm going to stick with coir subs and 50/50+ casing I think.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleLedd
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/04/08
Posts: 1,200
Loc: Innerspace Flag
Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: wissper]
    #8629217 - 07/13/08 12:35 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Sterilizing doesn't kill nutrients for nutrients aren't living things. Nor does it degrade them. Imagine "killing" all the nutrients in your grain when you PC'd it.


--------------------
We mean nothing we do not mean to do.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewissper
The Mushroom Man (in training)
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/10/08
Posts: 193
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: Ledd]
    #8629230 - 07/13/08 12:39 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

good point - then I don't know how they make it work.  I would think that if you have coir substrate and coir casing it would just look at the coir as another sub layer and eat right through it.  I'm not sure how it'd work if you used a different substrate then cased with coir, but it still doesn't make a lot of sense to me.  All I know is my myc is loving this coir.. it's only been 5 days and it's almost ready to be cased.  I've heard of it taking up to 10 days before casing so I'm going to wait another couple of days for good measure to make sure it eats through the bottom layers of sub as well.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
InvisibleLedd
Stranger
Male User Gallery


Registered: 07/04/08
Posts: 1,200
Loc: Innerspace Flag
Re: 100% coir spawn (first attempt) -- oatman2000's tek (pics and journalized) [Re: wissper]
    #8629249 - 07/13/08 12:43 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I posted a thread asking the question. Maybe you need a close eye to initiate pinning before it colonizes the coir. Seems this could become an overlay issue for later flushes though. I dunno, we will see.


--------------------
We mean nothing we do not mean to do.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewissper
The Mushroom Man (in training)
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/10/08
Posts: 193
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
Update on 100% coir spawn - casing [Re: Ledd]
    #8644804 - 07/16/08 09:58 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Cased the 3 tubs today with jiffy mix/verm 85% 15% mix that was pasteurized the same way as the coir (boiling water then strained and cooled before mixing in the verm - put them in the FC at 93% RH




Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlineabitavenger
3rd gear vtak
Male


Registered: 01/15/08
Posts: 545
Loc: east coast
Last seen: 12 years, 1 month
Re: Update on 100% coir spawn - casing [Re: wissper]
    #8644907 - 07/16/08 10:23 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

you should read up on hypahes pinning strategy it works great


--------------------
Karma.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewissper
The Mushroom Man (in training)
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/10/08
Posts: 193
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
Re: Update on 100% coir spawn - casing [Re: abitavenger]
    #8644964 - 07/16/08 10:35 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I was just reading that actually.  So I should just cover these back up and wait then?  Does the cover need to be aerated or can I just use lids with no holes to hold in the moisture?  I guess I'm confused about the point of covering it up again since myc can't see through the casing layer anyway and the fc is holding the humidity at a high level 95-97% rh which should keep the casing layer moist enough.  I know there's a reason I'm just trying to understand what it is =)

Edit: 

I went ahead and pulled the trays out of the FC and drilled some holes in the plastic lids and covered those with micropore tape for gas exchange (in case it's needed which I'm not sure it is right now)  I put them into a closet that's a little warmer than the FC which was 73 degrees at the time (a bit low).  I'm not sure what the temp is in the closet but I know it's at least a couple of degrees higher.  That's the best I can do without putting them outside in scorching 90+ heat which would be bad for them.  So at this point I'm supposed to wait another 3 days for them to pop up through the casing and patch then into the FC from what hyphae's tek says.  I've been working on these so long I want them to do well so I'm gonna follow it to a T and hope for the best.  These 3 trays look like  strong colonizers and so I'm hoping they'll fruit well.  I wasn't aware that the pinset for the 2nd and 3rd flushes were created at the initial flush.  That's good to know.. now I understand more about why the initial pinning is so important.

Thanks for the heads up.






Edited by wissper (07/16/08 10:51 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
OfflineTh1rt3en
Stranger

Registered: 09/25/07
Posts: 55
Last seen: 1 year, 5 months
Re: Update on 100% coir spawn - casing *DELETED* [Re: abitavenger]
    #8644977 - 07/16/08 10:38 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

Post deleted by Th1rt3en

Reason for deletion: .


Edited by Th1rt3en (07/16/08 10:44 PM)

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Offlinewissper
The Mushroom Man (in training)
Male User Gallery

Registered: 06/10/08
Posts: 193
Last seen: 12 years, 6 months
Re: Update on 100% coir spawn - casing [Re: Th1rt3en]
    #8644985 - 07/16/08 10:39 PM (15 years, 8 months ago)

I picked it up on ebay for around $25.00 just do a search for 4 tier greenhouse and it should pop up the guy who sells them.

Extras: Filter Print Post Top
Jump to top Pages: 1 | 2 | 3 | 4 | 5 | Next >  [ show all ]

Shop: Left Coast Kratom Buy Kratom Extract   Unfolding Nature Unfolding Nature: Being in the Implicate Order   North Spore Bulk Substrate   Kraken Kratom Red Vein Kratom   PhytoExtractum Buy Bali Kratom Powder   MagicBag.co Certified Organic All-In-One Grow Bags   Mushroom-Hut Substrate Bags


Similar ThreadsPosterViewsRepliesLast post
* looking for the name of coco coir also verm & coco tek miguel6911 3,684 9 04/17/03 11:57 PM
by tak_old
* 1st attempt (Added TEK) luvdemshrooms 2,304 17 12/02/01 07:01 AM
by luvdemshrooms
* Post deleted by users_request McMan 2,480 16 07/12/01 12:42 AM
by BrownPastures
* My Creeper Poo is reaching 100%. Now should I... Gthirteens 812 2 01/26/03 09:57 PM
by Gthirteens
* Newbie Question...first attempt. doug_philips_420 1,986 18 10/06/02 12:32 PM
by axtv
* coco coir casing layers Mrcanada 1,765 8 02/01/03 05:31 PM
by SixCee
* Do-It-Yourself Pod Tek
( 1 2 all )
Drummer 6,272 21 06/07/02 05:43 PM
by Mycelium69
* hips bulk tek-aka "oven tek" Passthedutchie 2,025 7 03/12/03 10:44 AM
by Passthedutchie

Extra information
You cannot start new topics / You cannot reply to topics
HTML is disabled / BBCode is enabled
Moderator: Shroomism, george castanza, RogerRabbit, veggie, mushboy, fahtster, LogicaL Chaos, 13shrooms, Stipe-n Cap, Pastywhyte, bodhisatta, Tormato, Land Trout, A.k.a
11,710 topic views. 32 members, 146 guests and 63 web crawlers are browsing this forum.
[ Show Images Only | Sort by Score | Print Topic ]
Search this thread:

Copyright 1997-2024 Mind Media. Some rights reserved.

Generated in 0.035 seconds spending 0.009 seconds on 13 queries.